🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

A couple questions:
1) How the fuck did they get a hold of a Lexus LFA for the video, and
2) How the fuck did they find someone who owns an LFA and was willing to let a bunch of guys in sweaty, probably jizz-stained shag carpets grind all over it?
You'd be surprised how many people in the fandom are actual professionals outside of it and fucking loaded. There's a reason they can afford so many dragon anal vore commissions. I've personally known people who are lawyers, accountants, professors, there's a few chemists and molecular biologists who are open about their professions.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who can afford a $6k cum suit can afford the car.
 
Furries are fucking loaded.

Well, the ones who aren't troons typically are.
they'll certainly spend money like they're loaded but they tend to turn small fortunes (either gained via lucrative careers or nouveau-riche inheritance bullshit stuff) into thousands of dollars in debt
 
Furries are fucking loaded.

Well, the ones who aren't troons typically are.
They sure are, that's a lotta money for a fursuit.
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What this guy said lol v

And yeah - no. They're going to buckle from the pressure before this heads to court. Idk WHY they're even doing this since someone told me that business had gone UP after they primarily started using Facebook and Instagram. They're morons.
You think they're going to crowdfund several hundred thousand dollars to defend a defamation suit? Because anyone who doesn't think it can cost several hundred thousand dollars to defend, has no business doing internet lawyer opinions. These depend on motivation, resources, and enough other factors that lawyers for both sides may not predict cost or outcome up to the day of trial. They treat it as a coin flip and a game of chicken.

Shit in one hand and put internet opinions about this in another and see which weighs more. A lot of people who post brave opinions under internet handles will be nowhere to be found when it's time to testify. If they won't it's not admissible and nothing they've said in private has anonymity in discovery.

One thing is for sure. For anyone who would go into a lawsuit based on what the internet thinks, a fool and their money is soon parted.
 
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You think they're going to crowdfund several hundred thousand dollars to defend a defamation suit? Because anyone who doesn't think it can cost several hundred thousand dollars to defend, has no business doing internet lawyer opinions. These depend on motivation, resources, and enough other factors that lawyers for both sides may not predict cost or outcome up to the day of trial. They treat it as a coin flip and a game of chicken.

Shit in one hand and put internet opinions about this in another and see which weighs more. A lot of people who post brave opinions under internet handles will be nowhere to be found when it's time to testify. If they won't it's not admissible and nothing they've said in private has anonymity in discovery.

One thing is for sure. For anyone who would go into a lawsuit based on what the internet thinks, a fool and their money is soon parted.
Easy on the autism there, buddy. This isn't a private person trying to take on a large corporation. This is a couple of speds with a now-failing business (which will fail harder as they keep this shit up), trying to silence another sped who has successfully weaponized furry feels. Qutens made 11 12 grand in two days and it looks like she's got a handful of whales backing her as well.

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This is all for defending against a Cease & Desist, mind you. AKA, the most basic bitch attempt at cowing someone for cheap without actually having to commit to anything. Against the wrong target, too: Qutens has stated she only shared the link to the document, she didn't write or contribute directly to it. She doesn't need to provide any evidence to defend the veracity of the file she linked and she needs no witnesses, that's not what's at play here. Meanwhile, that link was shared all over the place since DHC decided to put their logo right besides the dictionary definition of "Streisand effect", so even if this does go to court and they do win against Qutens and get her to delete the tweet, they're fucked either way unless they somehow attempt to sue Twitter to get all references to it removed (good luck!).

This is good furry drama. Morons making poor decisions without any forethought and then facing the consequences of their actions. I'm really hoping this results in a good writeup at the end.
 
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Wait... pleas explain. I though that a Cease and Esist order was a death knell.
Well, just in case you're not being sarcastic, and for the kids in the back who weren't paying attention, let's quote the wiki here... namely, two passages:

A cease and desist letter is a document sent to an individual or business to stop allegedly illegal activity ("cease") and not to restart it ("desist"). The letter may warn that, if the recipient does not discontinue specified conduct, or take certain actions, by deadlines set in the letter, that party, i.e. the letter's recipient, may be sued.
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Cease and desist letters are sometimes used to intimidate recipients and can be "an effective tool used by corporations to chill the critical speech of gripe sites operators".

The C&D is the first step before litigation. It's the issuer telling the recipient "yo, stop that shit or I'll sue yo' ass". It's a legal threat. Without actual follow-up (read: DHC pressing a libel lawsuit against Qutens), the C&D has no value whatsoever. That's why I called it the most basic bitch attempt at cowing someone for cheap: it's something a lawyer can bang out by doing the equivalent of filling in a Mad Libs form. It's effective sometimes because people look at the price of the litigation that would ensue if the threat issued by the Cease & Desist letter was carried out and back off.

Qutens, on the other hand, is gearing up to say "bring it!", which puts DHC in an interesting spot. They may well have enough money to sue her pawprint panties off, but the damage to their brand is only going to become more serious, and their clientele is only going to shrink. The thousands of dollars they'd be spending in legal fees may very well not be worth it so silence just one Twitter sped, even more now the document talking about their "alleged" criminal conduct is being shared even more enthusiastically through the fandom.
 
Well, just in case you're not being sarcastic, and for the kids in the back who weren't paying attention, let's quote the wiki here... namely, two passages:

A cease and desist letter is a document sent to an individual or business to stop allegedly illegal activity ("cease") and not to restart it ("desist"). The letter may warn that, if the recipient does not discontinue specified conduct, or take certain actions, by deadlines set in the letter, that party, i.e. the letter's recipient, may be sued.
(...)
Cease and desist letters are sometimes used to intimidate recipients and can be "an effective tool used by corporations to chill the critical speech of gripe sites operators".

The C&D is the first step before litigation. It's the issuer telling the recipient "yo, stop that shit or I'll sue yo' ass". It's a legal threat. Without actual follow-up (read: DHC pressing a libel lawsuit against Qutens), the C&D has no value whatsoever. That's why I called it the most basic bitch attempt at cowing someone for cheap: it's something a lawyer can bang out by doing the equivalent of filling in a Mad Libs form. It's effective sometimes because people look at the price of the litigation that would ensue if the threat issued by the Cease & Desist letter was carried out and back off.

Qutens, on the other hand, is gearing up to say "bring it!", which puts DHC in an interesting spot. They may well have enough money to sue her pawprint panties off, but the damage to their brand is only going to become more serious, and their clientele is only going to shrink. The thousands of dollars they'd be spending in legal fees may very well not be worth it so silence just one Twitter sped, even more now the document talking about their "alleged" criminal conduct is being shared even more enthusiastically through the fandom.
That certainly explains things. Usually, I see Cease and Esists in the form of megacompanies hutting down video game fan projects.
Thank you. I am not, nor I was, being sarcastic.
 
That certainly explains things. Usually, I see Cease and Esists in the form of megacompanies hutting down video game fan projects.
Thank you. I am not, nor I was, being sarcastic.
No worries, glad to help.

I said that C&Ds are worthless without follow-up, and that's why they're a death sentence to fan projects: when they're issued by a large corporation like Nintendo (or Games Workshop, or any number of lawsuit-happy companies out there) the follow-up is almost guaranteed if you don't comply with the letter right away. The costs incurred by attempting to defend yourself against a legal team likely numbering in the dozens are ludicrous, too. So you might as well cut your losses and run.

Between two smallfry like DHC and Qutens, though? If the recipient of the C&D doesn't get spooked and stands their ground it becomes a game of chicken. Usually, neither party has the resources to pursue a legal battle like that without going into debt so they just try to intimidate one another into backing off or reaching some sort of deal without actually going to court.

(In short: lawfare is a big boys' game.)
 
Well, just in case you're not being sarcastic, and for the kids in the back who weren't paying attention, let's quote the wiki here... namely, two passages:

A cease and desist letter is a document sent to an individual or business to stop allegedly illegal activity ("cease") and not to restart it ("desist"). The letter may warn that, if the recipient does not discontinue specified conduct, or take certain actions, by deadlines set in the letter, that party, i.e. the letter's recipient, may be sued.
(...)
Cease and desist letters are sometimes used to intimidate recipients and can be "an effective tool used by corporations to chill the critical speech of gripe sites operators".

The C&D is the first step before litigation. It's the issuer telling the recipient "yo, stop that shit or I'll sue yo' ass". It's a legal threat. Without actual follow-up (read: DHC pressing a libel lawsuit against Qutens), the C&D has no value whatsoever. That's why I called it the most basic bitch attempt at cowing someone for cheap: it's something a lawyer can bang out by doing the equivalent of filling in a Mad Libs form. It's effective sometimes because people look at the price of the litigation that would ensue if the threat issued by the Cease & Desist letter was carried out and back off.

Qutens, on the other hand, is gearing up to say "bring it!", which puts DHC in an interesting spot. They may well have enough money to sue her pawprint panties off, but the damage to their brand is only going to become more serious, and their clientele is only going to shrink. The thousands of dollars they'd be spending in legal fees may very well not be worth it so silence just one Twitter sped, even more now the document talking about their "alleged" criminal conduct is being shared even more enthusiastically through the fandom.
Has DHC's cease-and-desist been posted? Their tweet just said "people are lying and we won't say what the lies are and we're going to sue the lying liars" which makes me wonder if the C&D is equally vague. I think it was Popehat (before he snorted his own taint so hard that his head got lost up his asshole) who said that sending a vaguely-worded legal threat regarding someone else's internet speech is one of the dumbest fucking things you can possibly do if you're trying to get that speech to go away and not be amplified.
 
Has DHC's cease-and-desist been posted? Their tweet just said "people are lying and we won't say what the lies are and we're going to sue the lying liars" which makes me wonder if the C&D is equally vague. I think it was Popehat (before he snorted his own taint so hard that his head got lost up his asshole) who said that sending a vaguely-worded legal threat regarding someone else's internet speech is one of the dumbest fucking things you can possibly do if you're trying to get that speech to go away and not be amplified.
After a quick scroll through Quten's twitter feed, I can't see the actual text of the C&D. Poking at the gofundme page, I managed to find this higher-resolution version of the header photo:

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Given a reverse image search doesn't give me any result, this might actually be the C&D she's received instead of just a stock photo. Looks pretty wordy, too. If anyone feels like going full CSI, ENHANCE on it to try to extract some legible text, be my guest.
 
After a quick scroll through Quten's twitter feed, I can't see the actual text of the C&D. Poking at the gofundme page, I managed to find this higher-resolution version of the header photo:

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Given a reverse image search doesn't give me any result, this might actually be the C&D she's received instead of just a stock photo. Looks pretty wordy, too. If anyone feels like going full CSI, ENHANCE on it to try to extract some legible text, be my guest.
It's from Minc Law.
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