Science America’s Vaccine Rollout Is Already a Disaster - The Trump administration had completed 1/50th what it promised and is set to waste tens of millions of dollars of vaccine


It’s happening all over again. For months, Americans who despaired about the country’s coronavirus-suppression efforts looked desperately to the arrival of a vaccine for a kind of pandemic deliverance. Now that it has arrived, miraculously fast, we are failing utterly to administer it with anything like the urgency the pace of dying requires — and, perhaps most maddeningly, failing in precisely the same way as we did earlier in the year. That is, out of apparent, near-total indifference.

Almost as soon as the coronavirus arrived in the United States, public-health officials understood quite precisely the basic building blocks of a proper response: test, trace, isolate — in the three-beat mantra of those early months. There were, along the way, misunderstandings and miscalculations — about surface versus aerosol transmission, about mask-wearing, about the relative safety of outdoor socializing, among others. But the basic path was abundantly clear, as nearly every epidemiologist kept screaming, and yet the country failed spectacularly to walk down it. Within hours of receiving WHO guidance on January 13, scientists in Thailand began deploying a COVID-19 test, as the Washington Post recently recounted; it took the CDC 46 days to produce one that worked. By March 1, South Korea was administering 11,000 tests per day, a rapidly growing figure; in the U.S., a country about seven times larger, the number was 183. Early, low-end estimates suggested 500,000 to 700,000 tests each day were necessary to slow the spread of the disease, and high-end estimates ran to 3 million per day; the U.S. didn’t reach 700,000 daily tests until mid-June, and still hasn’t reached that threshold of 3 million per day. As recently as August, lab delays caused by pent-up demand meant it was taking so long to deliver results that the tests themselves were effectively meaningless.

That is just the story of testing, but contact tracing and isolation were bungled just as badly. Early estimates for the number of contact tracers needed ran between 100,000 and 300,000 people working, nationwide, to alert the contacts of positive cases to encourage them to isolate. As of May, the number was under 8,000. Today, it is still just 70,000, and those who are reached by those tracers are overwhelmingly not responding. There has also been hopelessly inadequate support for those hoping to isolate, or quarantine, during periods of risk — not to mention insufficient protections for those who had to miss work to do so.

And now here we are, nearly a year into the pandemic, making precisely the same mistake with the vaccine. That is to say, despite the horrible continuing brutality of this pandemic and the incredible efforts and good intentions of health-care workers, we are, practically speaking, at a social level, not even bothering to try to end it.

How badly are we doing? In September, President Trump promised 100 million vaccinations by the end of the year. As a country, we have only 40 million doses, and had aimed, according to Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar, to vaccinate 20 million by year-end. That’s bad enough. But we have administered only 2 million of those — barely 10 percent of the goal. At this rate, achieving sufficient vaccination to reach herd immunity and bring the pandemic to a close in the U.S. will take about seven years. In Israel, they are vaccinating about one percent of the population each day, meaning the full program of population-wide vaccination will be done by this March.

Of course, at that speed the effects will show up much sooner, as well. Because of the dramatic age-skew of disease, vaccinating the small number of very old people has an astonishing impact on mortality risk. According to one assessment of the Israeli approach, which focuses on protecting the elderly first, vaccinating just the 0.5 percent of people over 90 drops the total fatality risk by 19 percent; vaccinating the 2.5 percent over 80 cuts it fully in half; vaccinating the 7.5 percent over 70, drops it by three-quarters. Ultimately, Israel chose to bulk-vaccinate all those over 60, so the improvements are less dramatic than they might have been. But by late January, the country will probably have reduced its fatality risk from the disease about tenfold.

The U.S. is not Israel — it is a large country, much more rural, with a much more complicated (indeed, tattered) health-care system. There are probably some understandable, if maddening, reasons that we are not moving as swiftly as others to administer the vaccine. But it is an awful show of hot-potato responsibility that no entity or authority with the wherewithal to accelerate rollout is actually functioning properly. This is precisely as we were warned throughout the fall, as close observers noted that the federal government was dumping the responsibility onto states, most of which lacked the capacity to truly administer the rollout, and many of whom would push the job to local groups, hospitals, and even pharmacies. Keep in mind that, in 1947, New York City vaccinated 5 million people against smallpox in two weeks. Now just look at this chart from Bloomberg’s vaccine tracker:
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As a whole, the country has administered barely 10 percent of even the first doses allotted — and 20 million (identical) doses are being reserved for a second shot. A group modeling the Canadian rollout suggested that rushing to get as many first doses as possible out, and waiting for new supply to deliver second doses, could avert as many as 34 to 42 percent of new infections, which is why Canada has now embraced that approach — as has the U.K. Here in the U.S., we are continuing to hold back half of the vaccine doses we have, and hardly any state in the country is significantly above 10 percent of that initial allotment — which is to say, 5 percent of available doses. Though refrigeration capacity varies from location to location, vaccines are only cleared for 30 days of storage in the most common units (including those in which they have been shipped). States have been rushing to build out their storage capacity, but have been warned of monthslong waits for ultracold freezers that could extend shelf life to about six months. That means that, in many places, this first batch of vaccine is set to expire in late January, around the time Joe Biden, who has been criticizing the rollout and promising to accelerate it, is set to take office. Presumably, the American pace will accelerate somewhat even before then. But on the current pace, by that point about 6 million Americans — perhaps 10 million — would have been vaccinated. And, depending on local bureaucracy and storage capacity, perhaps many million doses will be set to expire.
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Even if you're against vaccination, wasting good vaccine people are demanding right now is an awful idea because you're just gonna have to buy more.
Israel on the other hand has just vaccinated 10% of their whole population two days ago, progressing 1% per day well I've seen models predicting at current rates the US will vaccinate the whole population by 2060.
 
Similar problems in other countries, somehow when it happens in murrica it's trumps fault and in other places it's just seen as "whoopsiedaisy guess we gotta step it up"
For example, Finland is seen as a "good" covid handling country.

Our Vaccinations are going slow because "oh nurses are on their christmas break we simply cannot make them work now and let them rest afterwards"

Our testing still sucks ass, getting a test in anywhere other than the capital usually requires you to use public transport if you don't have a car etc. The only non-hospital testing place in my city is in the neighborhood that has over 40% immigrant population. Because of course we gotta focus on niggers first.

Still, nobody makes a fuss about it and certainly nobody will blame our stunning and brave prime minister who just speaks a lot but gets nothing ultimately done.
 
Similar problems in other countries, somehow when it happens in murrica it's trumps fault and in other places it's just seen as "whoopsiedaisy guess we gotta step it up"
For example, Finland is seen as a "good" covid handling country.

Our Vaccinations are going slow because "oh nurses are on their christmas break we simply cannot make them work now and let them rest afterwards"

Our testing still sucks ass, getting a test in anywhere other than the capital usually requires you to use public transport if you don't have a car etc. The only non-hospital testing place in my city is in the neighborhood that has over 40% immigrant population. Because of course we gotta focus on niggers first.

Still, nobody makes a fuss about it and certainly nobody will blame our stunning and brave prime minister who just speaks a lot but gets nothing ultimately done.
Actually this article doesn't blame Trump if you read it, simply states it doesn't hold up even closely to his 100m applied vaccinations by the end of the year when the US struggles to get 2 million. Immediately running to the defense of Trump shows that you firstly didn't read the article and secondly are already attempting to respond to a perceived political narrative.
There's a difference between slow and molasses, Finland is still testing more and has likely applied multiple times the percent of vaccinations per capita versus the US.
 
Actually this article doesn't blame Trump if you read it, simply states it doesn't hold up even closely to his 100m applied vaccinations by the end of the year when the US struggles to get 2 million. Immediately running to the defense of Trump shows that you firstly didn't read the article and secondly are already attempting to respond to a perceived political narrative.
There's a difference between slow and molasses, Finland is still testing more and has likely applied multiple times the percent of vaccinations per capita versus the US.
Oh, I know, but we both know that eventually all slowdowns and mishaps until Joe takes over will be blamed on ol' Don. I don't care either way I just think it's silly that all the worlds problems are blamed on some boomer.

Regarding our vaccinations, we have used 6k doses of the first 100k or so, we started vaccing around 28th I believe, so think of that what you will.

Regarding UK vaccinations, they decided brilliantly that the 2nd dose "isn't that important" and in europe everyone is laughing and calling them unscientific idiots for not reserving the 2nd dose to people.
 
Shit bait article that ultimately says that Trump's admin is just like any other admin.
But of course you gotta slam the orange man and not Merkel, Obrador, or any stunning and brave politician who has the right beliefs.
 
Shit bait article that ultimately says that Trump's admin is just like any other admin.
But of course you gotta slam the orange man and not Merkel, Obrador, or any stunning and brave politician who has the right beliefs.
Because the article is about America and not Germany or Mexico stupid.
Anything not sucking America's dick=anti trump, even tho Trump is mentioned once and only directly quoted as he didn't reach his goal
Oh, I know, but we both know that eventually all slowdowns and mishaps until Joe takes over will be blamed on ol' Don. I don't care either way I just think it's silly that all the worlds problems are blamed on some boomer.

Regarding our vaccinations, we have used 6k doses of the first 100k or so, we started vaccing around 28th I believe, so think of that what you will.

Regarding UK vaccinations, they decided brilliantly that the 2nd dose "isn't that important" and in europe everyone is laughing and calling them unscientific idiots for not reserving the 2nd dose to people.
That's on a similar pace as the US but per capita I still think Finland is barely ahead right now. The bigger issue is more so the tens of millions of doses stuck in warehouses with no proper way to transport and administer them.
 
Because the article is about America and not Germany or Mexico stupid.
Anything not sucking America's dick=anti trump, even tho Trump is mentioned once and only directly quoted as he didn't reach his goal

That's on a similar pace as the US but per capita I still think Finland is barely ahead right now. The bigger issue is more so the tens of millions of doses stuck in warehouses with no proper way to transport and administer them.
There are transport issues almost everywhere though. -70 celsius is a transport and storage nightmare apparently (although I would imagine you can produce dry ice anywhere)

The vaccines are interesting - in here they somehow get an extra shot per vial by using it sparingly; I have no idea if that's too smart to do but it's what we are doing.
 
Almost as soon as the coronavirus arrived in the United States, public-health officials understood quite precisely the basic building blocks of a proper response: test, trace, isolate — in the three-beat mantra of those early months. There were, along the way, misunderstandings and miscalculations — about surface versus aerosol transmission, about mask-wearing, about the relative safety of outdoor socializing, among others.
Friendly reminder that the WHO denied human to human transmission was possible until March 6th

That means the galaxy brains who "know science" thought that every person who had the shanghai shivers must have eaten a bat.

Also Taiwan indicated it was possible to spread it to human to human back in November 2019.

Also China totally recognizes Taiwan and the WHO isn't on Beijing's payroll
 
I think the biggest think people miss is that internationally theres clearly a deadline for this. It hasnt been said yet but i guarantee if your country doesnt have its shit together by july they wont be allowed in the Olympics. Which for the West would be a major slap on the face. As it stands if they were held now, it would basically be a pan-Asian/oceanic games. Japan and the IOC isnt going to just let people in.

Also in combination with that; knowing the morale loss such a concept would be. The film studios should have been rearranging and moving their films around to essentially reopen around that date.

Regardless of how slow things are moving now, things are still moving fast enough that you should be making your arrangements for St.patricks day, May 5th, or July 4th now when its cheap. Honestly book all your shit now for the 2nd half of the year.

The US will have its shit together covid-wise by July 4th. I guarantee it. Broadway Joe style
 
Yeah, the problem right now is we’re trying to get it to specific people and refusing to give it to others...and the people we’re giving it to are often the least mobile, ones who have the toughest time waiting in lines, are the most easily confused by red tape and the internet in general so have a hard time navigating online systems, are often not compliant with medical treatment anyway, etc. Whether you’re prioritizing the elderly, drug addicts and other undesirables, young frontline workers who think of themselves as bulletproof, blacks and browns since they’re a more disorganized culture, it’s the same.

Once there are enough available doses that you can just go down to Walgreens, or to your doctor, or your company (mine is already letting us know they’re working a plan now), it’ll be ok. So it’ll be a few months and then it’ll explode exponentially all over the place. Kinda like...a virus.
 
I think the biggest think people miss is that internationally theres clearly a deadline for this. It hasnt been said yet but i guarantee if your country doesnt have its shit together by july they wont be allowed in the Olympics. Which for the West would be a major slap on the face. As it stands if they were held now, it would basically be a pan-Asian/oceanic games. Japan and the IOC isnt going to just let people in.
That would end the IOC and nobody would care about it.
the waaaaay more important deadline for europe is in June. there will be riots if a team cant go to the euro because of this. it will also see alot more travel.
 
That would end the IOC and nobody would care about it.
the waaaaay more important deadline for europe is in June. there will be riots if a team cant go to the euro because of this. it will also see alot more travel.
I was talking about the US but yes. Essentially Europe has until June to get its shit together, the good weather will cause people to start going out amd spreading it
 
I was talking about the US but yes. Essentially Europe has until June to get its shit together, the good weather will cause people to start going out amd spreading it
It's the other way around. When spring comes, cold and flu season ends. Risks of spread fall accordingly. We saw this last year.

It's getting it out fast fast fast right now that is the important part.
No discussion of how Andrew 'Kill the old people' Cuomo would rather vaccinate drug addicts than the elderly?

Faggots.
And this is the problem. The vaccination campaigns are handled at the state level, not federal. So we all get to see their bureaucratic inefficiency on display. Couldn't just ship some to hospitals to cover staff and the rest to neighborhood pharmacies with "if you are older than X or have a prescription from your doctor come get a shot" rules. They need to control every aspect through their own cobbled together logistics and distribution network to make it "fair".
 
I think the biggest think people miss is that internationally theres clearly a deadline for this. It hasnt been said yet but i guarantee if your country doesnt have its shit together by july they wont be allowed in the Olympics.
Dude, I'm all for this. The Olympics are a complete waste of time and resources. If I was in charge of the country I would just permanently withdraw from them.

Is there any way we can slow down vaccinations so this possibility becomes an absolute?
 
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