Crime New Bill Would Finally Make Illegal Streaming a Felony - Stealing from the poor to give to the rich.


A long-time effort to boost penalties for pirated video streams may have finally met its moment, that being the combination of the explosion of streaming content and over-the-top distribution channels and a COVID-19-sequestered populace for whom online video has become an entertainment lifeline.

A long-time effort to boost penalties for pirated video streams may have finally met its moment, that being the combination of the explosion of streaming content and over-the-top distribution channels and a COVID-19-sequestered populace for whom online video has become an entertainment lifeline.


Free State Foundation's Seth Cooper, in a blog post late Thursday (Dec. 17) pointed out that the bipartisan Protecting Lawful Streaming Act, which would up those penalties, was at press time still attached to an omnibus spending bill that needs to pass to prevent a government shutdown. That is not to be confused with the COVID-19 aid bill also being worked on, or the Defense authorization bill that just passed but the President has threatened to veto.


Studios, independent producers, and unions have pushed for at least a decade to get Congress to make stealing video streams a felony, as it is for illegally copying and distributing copyrighted TV shows and movies. But that was before must-see TV had morphed into "must stream video," as FCC chairman Ajit Pai put it earlier this week.

Currently, a pirated stream is treated as an illegal performance, which is a misdemeanor, rather than illegal reproduction and distribution, which is a felony. Making it a felony would mean larger penalties, potential prison time, both of which would be a greater deterrent.


Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who introduced the new bill last week, says it is targeted to large-scale, criminal, for profit, streaming services, not good faith business disputes or noncommercial activities. It does not target individuals who access the pirated streams or unwittingly stream unauthorized copies of copyrighted works.

“The shift toward streaming content online has resulted in criminal streaming services illegally distributing copyrighted material that costs the U.S. economy nearly $30 billion every year, and discourages the production of creative content that Americans enjoy,” said Sen. Tillis of his bill. “This commonsense legislation was drafted with the input of creators, user groups, and technology companies and is narrowly targeted so that only criminal organizations are punished and that no individual streamer has to worry about the fear of prosecution."

He pointed out that fair use fans like Public Knowledge are neutral on the bill.

Co-sponsors of the legislation include Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Chris Coons (D-Del.), Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.), and David Perdue (R-Ga.).

The Obama Administration asked Congress to "clarify" that streaming illegal content, as well as downloading it, was a felony, an effort pushed by then White House Intellectual Property Enforcement coordinator Victoria Espinel. Among the senators supporting that bipartisan legislative effort were Leahy, Coons, and Cornyn.


"Budgetary issues aside, the Protecting Lawful Streaming Act is strong on its own merits," said Cooper in his blog post. "In whatever legislative vehicle proves most practical, Congress should pass the bill and the President should sign it."
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These companies are making more than ever and people are less wealthy than ever. Punishing the poor for being poor is wrong, particularly when the rich still make insane amounts regardless of pirating.
Just on an educational level this is harmful.
 
rather than illegal reproduction and distribution, which is a felony. Making it a felony would mean larger penalties, potential prison time, both of which would be a greater deterrent.
"Punishment-as-deterrent" is about as pants-on-head retarded a position as "prisons-should-rehabilitate". Just take the present state of the law and the area that the law is supposed to cover. If 'felonies' were 'deterrents' to crime, why are certain sites where you can enjoy your favorite content without rendering shekels unto (((Hollywood))), still in existence? If felonies were a deterrent to crime, why are prisons full of people convicted of various drug manufacturing/intent to distribute offenses?

Humans have come up with all manner of inventive punishments for crimes, real and imagined. If the threat of being hanged, drawn, and quartered was enough to 'deter' high treason, the English wouldn't have had so many rebellions and civil wars. The idea of 'punishment-as-deterrence' is pure legalism and should have been left in 4th century B.C. China where it belongs.

A punishment should be meted out commensurate, and rationally related to, the crime committed, and not ratcheted up because the lobbyists stuff money in your bra like the whore you are, Senator Tillis.
 
if congress wants the masses to guillotine their asses they've done a great job of inciting that in the last few weeks, can't wait to see what other stupid shit they pull in a last-ditch effort to win the 2020 clown awards. fuck tillis and his pervy looking ass, and fuck capitol hill
 
This is not surprising at all, the only thing that would be geniuinely shocking is if this bill wasn't pushed for by Hollywood studios and Entertainment companies. Piracy has always been a pain in the dick for these people for obvious reasons, and it's been creeping up back again in the recent years.

I still remember when I was growing up in the early to mid 2000s when you had the most batshit insane PSA commercials about piracy, literally comparing seeing a pirated movie to stealing a fucking car.

Back in those days, the cheapest way to see movies was if you were lucky enough to catch it on cable or go and rent it from Blockbuster. Other than that, go and spend half your salary on going to the cinema or buying the DVD. It's no wonder pirated movies were high in demand.

What changed that? Netflix.

Netflix was the best deal when it first came out. So many movies, just for a relatively cheap monthly subscription, and all of them in good quality if you had a decent internet connection. There were many risks to downloading movies if you weren't savvy enough to detect viruses, and going to the flea market for phyiscal pirated movies that were shot on shitty mid-2000s cameras was a chore. Everybody was more than willing to pay a Netflix subscription to just see what they wanted to see.

So why is piracy coming back? Too many fucking streaming services.

If you're somebody that likes to see a lot of movies or shows, you have to get just about every service under the yellow sun. Want Star Wars/Marvel? Disney+. Want Star Trek? CBS All Access. Want the Sopranos? HBO Max. Want Stranger Things? Netflix. Want anime? Crunchyroll. This is, of course, after taking into account that all of these streaming services have been slowly hiking up their prices since the start of the 2010s.

Netflix used to cost 10 bucks a month. So, when the monthly cost for all your streaming services is quickly surpassing your goddamn electricity bill, you bet your ass that people are going to boot up the ol' uTorrent and sail the high seas.
 
This is not surprising at all, the only thing that would be geniuinely shocking is if this bill wasn't pushed for by Hollywood studios and Entertainment companies. Piracy has always been a pain in the dick for these people for obvious reasons, and it's been creeping up back again in the recent years.

I still remember when I was growing up in the early to mid 2000s when you had the most batshit insane PSA commercials about piracy, literally comparing seeing a pirated movie to stealing a fucking car. https://youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU
Back in those days, the cheapest way to see movies was if you were lucky enough to catch it on cable or go and rent it from Blockbuster. Other than that, go and spend half your salary on going to the cinema or buying the DVD. It's no wonder pirated movies were high in demand.

What changed that? Netflix.

Netflix was the best deal when it first came out. So many movies, just for a relatively cheap monthly subscription, and all of them in good quality if you had a decent internet connection. There were many risks to downloading movies if you weren't savvy enough to detect viruses, and going to the flea market for phyiscal pirated movies that were shot on shitty mid-2000s cameras was a chore. Everybody was more than willing to pay a Netflix subscription to just see what they wanted to see.

So why is piracy coming back? Too many fucking streaming services.

If you're somebody that likes to see a lot of movies or shows, you have to get just about every service under the yellow sun. Want Star Wars/Marvel? Disney+. Want Star Trek? CBS All Access. Want the Sopranos? HBO Max. Want Stranger Things? Netflix. Want anime? Crunchyroll. This is, of course, after taking into account that all of these streaming services have been slowly hiking up their prices since the start of the 2010s.

Netflix used to cost 10 bucks a month. So, when the monthly cost for all your streaming services is quickly surpassing your goddamn electricity bill, you bet your ass that people are going to boot up the ol' uTorrent and sail the high seas.
ah shit i remember those adverts at the beginning of DVDs, proper edgelord breaking into a car and shoplifting a DVD. Al Capone got a rival!
 
You bet your ass I would download a car. Those things cost almost a year's salary.

Like someone said earlier, boomers don't understand the internet. Don't they know it's not something you just dump something on? It's not a big truck, it's a series of tubes!
 
You can pry Kim Cartoon away from my cold, dead hands.
I mean, where is a guy supposed to go to get anime streams?

Amazon? Can't even label episodes and seasons right. Netflix? After Cuties?

Crunchyroll? Funimation? I'd rather half this site run a train on me.

...not really, but that's emphasis on my abject displeasure with either of those services.
 
Studios, independent producers, and unions have pushed for at least a decade to get Congress to make stealing video streams a felony, as it is for illegally copying and distributing copyrighted TV shows and movies. But that was before must-see TV had morphed into "must stream video," as FCC chairman Ajit Pai put it earlier this week.

This is key right here. Illegally copying and distributing copyrighted TV shows and movies is already a felony and yet downloads are still fucking everywhere. Streaming will be the same. This isn't going to do shit.
 
So now, next time there's a DNC debate and Stephen Crowder or Razorfist stream it and add their own Statler-and-Waldorf-style taking the piss, they can finally be arrested for wrongthink and saying mean things about their betters be Held Accountable™️ for spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories?
Wouldn't they be covered under fair use. I know its kind of a meme thanks to Doug Walker, but they are adding their own commentary on top of the footage and transforming it.
 
So why is piracy coming back? Too many fucking streaming services.

If you're somebody that likes to see a lot of movies or shows, you have to get just about every service under the yellow sun. Want Star Wars/Marvel? Disney+. Want Star Trek? CBS All Access. Want the Sopranos? HBO Max. Want Stranger Things? Netflix. Want anime? Crunchyroll. This is, of course, after taking into account that all of these streaming services have been slowly hiking up their prices since the start of the 2010s.

Netflix used to cost 10 bucks a month. So, when the monthly cost for all your streaming services is quickly surpassing your goddamn electricity bill, you bet your ass that people are going to boot up the ol' uTorrent and sail the high seas.
i forgot how it was worded, but lord gaben once stated that piracy happens because of inconvenience.
and media companies love to pass the inconvenience to the customer (long term investing? what the fuck is that? i need the money now now NOW NOW NOOOW)
 
Wouldn't they be covered under fair use. I know its kind of a meme thanks to Doug Walker, but they are adding their own commentary on top of the footage and transforming it.
During the DNC debates, CBS paid people to report streamers for copyright violations (Razorfist got a strike for it).
 
targeted to large-scale, criminal, for profit, streaming services, not good faith business disputes or noncommercial activities. It does not target individuals who access the pirated streams or unwittingly stream unauthorized copies of copyrighted works.
I bet some retard is going to think that this targets users like the Obama administration wanted.
These companies are making more than ever and people are less wealthy than ever. Punishing the poor for being poor is wrong, particularly when the rich still make insane amounts regardless of pirating.
Just on an educational level this is harmful.
God damn it APC.
 
They always claim shit like this. "Sure it could be abused but we're only going after the real bad criminals - trust us!"
And then they sue grandma over a song her nephew downloaded.
Because that law was created to target individuals, unlike this one.
Saying 'at some point this may be used to target people watching streams' is different from 'Punishing the poor for being poor is wrong'.
One is only semi-retarded and one is full retard.
 
During the DNC debates, CBS paid people to report streamers for copyright violations (Razorfist got a strike for it).
Thats people abusing the dmca. If they went to court over it, the streamer would probably win. Unless they just were showing the stream minus commentary.

I could see Crowder or Tarl mounting a lawsuit with funds from their fans. But the smaller guys are sol.
 
They always claim shit like this. "Sure it could be abused but we're only going after the real bad criminals - trust us!"
And then they sue grandma over a song her nephew downloaded.
Atlas Shrugged has always struck me as a long autistic screech, but this is relevant:
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
 
I bet some retard is going to think that this targets users like the Obama administration wanted.

God damn it APC.
Because that law was created to target individuals, unlike this one.
Saying 'at some point this may be used to target people watching streams' is different from 'Punishing the poor for being poor is wrong'.
One is only semi-retarded and one is full retard.
Imagine being this totally ignorant and naive. Those services are totally only used by bad guys and never help poor people at all, totally. Not like the highest market for these illegal stream devices is poor people who can't afford better.

But please continue to moral grandstand and simp for corporations, thats all you can do and I love seeing you get upset at anything calling for equal opportunity.
 
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