You raise a good point. Recently, Dobson made a comic about Raven's outfit in the New 52 comic series and there was something that went through my mind, but I didn't really know how to phrase it. The thing is, Dobson gives this clumsy explanation what (he thinks) objectification is and then goes "also, this is Raven's new outfit", insinuating that her depiction is indeed an objectification of women. Here's a question I would love to ask Dobson: What is Raven's personality like in the New 52? If anything, the one objectifying Raven is Dobson, since he's only looking at her design and not her overall presentation, personality and so on. Maybe she's a really strong protagonist that's a mighty force to deal with for her enemies, with a rich personality and interesting interaction with other characters. I wouldn't know, I don't read comics, but basing your entire opinion about that character on her attire seems oddly sexist. Not necessarily the "I fap to that" kind of sexist, but the "I reduce her to her looks" kind of sexist. SJWs seem so hung up on objectification being the reduction of a woman to her looks, yet that's only part of the problem they love to blow out of proportion while ignoring everything else (as SJW love to do). I guess anyone would concur that, for instance, reducing a woman just to her ability to give birth would be equally as shitty - reducing her to a glorified incubator. The problem isn't girls in sexy outfits, the problem is girls that are nothing but a foil for sexy outfits. Objectification is not depicting a female character in a sexy way and it never will be. The more important aspect is the reduction of a character or person to only one function/aspect. Objectification has many faces, for instance reducing a female character to a fucktoy, or cocktease without any function, purpose or personality outside of that function. I'd argue reducing a male person to his function and value for society (like reducing someone to his job) is an act of objectification as well. When you treat characters and people not like individuals with personalities, but rather some -gasp- object. That is objectification. And it can be aimed at males and females alike. That said, part of the reason why I hate the characters in AzP so much is the fact they are the definition of objetification. They are pretty much just their gender with badly drawn 'eye-candy' designs and no personality whatsoever.