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Nah this sharpie guy gets way too upset to be moira.

Moira might go on long diatribes but they hardly ever drop the f bomb or personal insults.

Nothing personal but I just don't want people thinking Moira is as retarded as you are.
 
At the end of the day you won't care what I post and I won't care what you post.
I do very much care what you post. I enjoy the DSP Lolcow Cult board on Kiwifarms dot com because I get a lot of laughs there and so I don't like it when some newfag comes mincing in with tired whataboutisms and shits up what is otherwise a good time, and so in the time-honored words or our people I would entreat you to lurk moar or please, for the love of God and all life on this planet, kill yourself.
 
I'm actually intrigued.

A person with no horse in this race wouldn't fight so much to defend Phil. It's the equivalent of me going to Phil's stream chat and starting to argue against his fans. And yes, you're defending him.

Look, Phil's detractors enjoy laughing at him. Very few people here condone giving him money. We know that he is an actual scammer, who has consistently lied to his fans. The fact that he's such a scummy person, allied with the fact that he has many very visible vices (e.g. never admitting when something is his fault) makes him an easy target for people who want someone to laugh at. That's what this website's whole point is.

That's all. Some detractors want to do gayops, but that's generally frowned upon here. Our general policy is to just sit back and enjoy the shitshow that is Phil's life.

What I'm still not getting is this: what's your objective by coming here? Again, I wouldn't go to Phil's stream chat to argue with people there, because his true fans are beyond retarded, and the vast majority are just ironic fans who are there to laugh at him. So why are you coming to the Farms? Do you think you can come here and actually convince someone that Phil is a nice guy? A victim? Not a scammer? Mate, you yourself said it: we know more about Phil than most of his fans do. And knowing about Phil is precisely why most peoople here despise him. Because he has a vast history of being an asshole, a liar and a scammer.

Oh, and regarding Ethos, this is the Ethos of the guy you're so ardently defending: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIt8O-GpJWQ&ab_channel=thats100%alie

"Do what gives you pleasure and fuck everyone else"

Isn't that what you guys are doing?
 
For the third time, that's not the hypocritical part. The hypocritical part is saying Phil is lazy and unoriginal, and then praising restreamers. The reason that is hypocritical is because restreaming is streaming the same content that someone elses produces, which is by definition, unoriginal.

Does that make sense, or do you want to repeat it a 4th time so that you get it?
You don't have to repeat it a fourth
time, it still makes no sense.
You compare a guy who's literal job is streaming, to entertain and be original with a bunch of people who just turn on the restream to laugh at Phil. And good lord are we thankful for their existence so Phil won't get views and we can laugh together without getting banned. Do we have to repeat that again so you'll get it?

This is not a base race. Nobody gives a fuck if a restreamers is better or worse than Phil. What are you talking about? You're attacking the smelling wind.
 
You don't have to repeat it a fourth
time, it still makes no sense.
You compare a guy who's literal job is streaming, to entertain and be original with a bunch of people who just turn on the restream to laugh at Phil. And good lord are we thankful for their existence so Phil won't get views and we can laugh together without getting banned. Do we have to repeat that again so you'll get it?

This is not a base race. Nobody gives a fuck if a restreamers is "better" than Phil. What are you talking about?

Ok, seems like I need to repeat a 4th time. I'll try to write it even more simply.

Detractors: Phil is unfunny and unoriginal.

Restreamers: restream phil's exact content and react to it

Detractors: Restreamers are funny and original

That is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
 
Phil:
Unoriginal
Disgusting
Unwarranted Self Importance
Begs for money
Threatened to physically assault a child
Bankruptcy fraud
etc. etc.

Restreamers:
Unoriginal

Sharpie:
THEY ARE THE SAME THING YOU HYPOCRITS!
 
Ok, seems like I need to repeat a 4th time. I'll try to write it even more simply.

Detractors: Phil is unfunny and unoriginal.

Restreamers: restream phil's exact content and react to it

Detractors: Restreamers are funny and original

That is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
stop being a faggot no one made any of these arguments, the people you keep talking to are literally telling you they don't watch them, shut the actual fuck up you toilet sponge
 
Ok, seems like I need to repeat a 4th time. I'll try to write it even more simply.

Detractors: Phil is unfunny and unoriginal.

Restreamers: restream phil's exact content and react to it

Detractors: Restreamers are funny and original

That is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
Why do you care so much about what people think about DSP's restreamers?
 
Ok, seems like I need to repeat a 4th time. I'll try to write it even more simply.

Detractors: Phil is unfunny and unoriginal.

Restreamers: restream phil's exact content and react to it

Detractors: Restreamers are funny and original

That is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
Flashnews for you.
Many restreamers have a sense of humor and are actually sincerely funny. Phil is not.
Okay, killed the hypocrisy in one turn for 8000 DMG.
Next.
 
Ok, seems like I need to repeat a 4th time. I'll try to write it even more simply.

Detractors: Phil is unfunny and unoriginal.

Restreamers: restream phil's exact content and react to it

Detractors: Restreamers are funny and original

That is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
Why are you ignoring the litany of other reasons to dislike Phil? Just because Phil and Restreamers share unoriginality, why in your mind does that negate all the other negative aspects that Phil displays?

If you had a choice between getting raped by a man with AIDS and a man without AIDS, it doesn't make you a hypocrite to choose to be raped by the man without AIDS, even though you'd rather not be raped at all.
 
"in defense of an ethos"

this isn't a fucking shakesperean play you fucking dolt. I'm here because this provides me entertainment. I watch phil because it provides me entertainment. You watch tevin because it provides you entertainment. Not everything in the world is some multilayered fucking conspiracy.
So...by your logic, doesn't that make you a hypocrite? Watching Phil gives you entertainment, but you also get entertainment from coming here to people shit on him. If there's no difference between watching Phil vs. watching a restream where it's just Phil's content but people shitting on him, what's the difference? To take it a step further, you're also communicating on a forum full of people you admit to not liking for a variety of reasons, yet you keep coming here for entertainment.

Also, to go back to what your original post was before it got moved here...you said you didn't believe evidence because people are hypocrites and restreams and all that other jazz. But, with the exception of people exaggerating, none of that has anything to do with presenting facts or evidence. In fact, you also go on to say we're autists who overanaylze Phil's life, and you'd think if anything, overanalyzing autists are bound to get the details right. And as far as the exaggerations side goes, eh, in terms of dollar amounts, it's pretty fair, but with things like "Phil said X, here's the clip" while there can for sure still be hyperbole in a post like that, the base argument is sound because there's literally a clip of Phil saying X.

It sounds like you don't really care for the detractor community. Which is fine, we all have our own 'tisms regarding Phil. But, before the thread move at least, you seemed pretty intent on debunking our claims. Which again, totally fine and, IMO, even encouraged. People here generally like discussing and musing about Phil's life. Your overall posts were pretty weak, though, and now it feels like your reasoning really seems to boil down to not liking this community either. So I guess the question is, what are you really hoping to get out of these discussions?
 
Ok, clearly there is some confusion about what I think about Phil, so I'm going to write it very clearly here exactly what I think about Phil.

I do not like Phil. I say that deliberately. I do not like him meaning I am not a fan of his. I lean more towards disliking him. The reasons I dislike him are:
1) he insults his viewers, occasionally even legit fans
2) He talks about tips way more than I've seen other streamers do
3) he sometimes says really gross and crude things, burping included
4) I'm not a fan of watching people play video games in general unless it's someone I find entertaining or a game I find entertaining
5) The community of hatred around him is exhausting and occasionally makes the streams not fun to watch

Not liking phil does not mean I automatically hate Phil. I don't hate Phil because the things he does do not affect me personally. I do watch Phil's streams (albeit less now) but I'm usually looking at other stuff or just reading/writing in chat. Participating in chat does not make me a fan of Phil.

The reason I am posting here is the same reason you guys are posting here. I am giving my thoughts and responding to others. That provides entertainment for me. Beyond giving my perspective on things, I don't have an agenda. I don't have a desire to comb through 500 pages of material on someone I don't care about. It's a waste of my time. If my opinion on something was mentioned and debunked in a previous portion of the thread, that's fine. Feel free to say so and move on.

I said I think detractors are mean. I said this specifically because I've seen many detractors wishing harm on Phil and trying to ruin his life. My personal opinion is that it is cruel to wish harm on someone and it is cruel to try to ruin someone's life, especially if that person did nothing to you personally. I don't care about detractors beyond this except when the detractor shit in chat gets so bad that it makes the stream annoying to watch. FWIW, I found Phil through detractor content. I saw him through mighty d's videos and that's 100% a lie. I found these videos funny and entertaining. I don't think all detractors are entertaining, I find some legitimately annoying, and I think it's hypocritical to say someone is unoriginal and boring when you are watching that person's content through a restreamer. You don't have to agree. Beyond that I don't care about detractors.

Again, I am not a fan of Phil. I do not have an agenda beyond interacting with people in the thread and giving my thoughts. In fact, @Cyber Bowling calmly responded to one of my posts, and I told him he brought up good points and I agreed with certain things he said. I am here for entertainment value, just like I watch Phil streams for entertainment value, just like you watch restreamers/Tevin/post here for entertainment value. There is nothing beyond that.
 
Ok, clearly there is some confusion about what I think about Phil, so I'm going to write it very clearly here exactly what I think about Phil.

I do not like Phil. I say that deliberately. I do not like him meaning I am not a fan of his. I lean more towards disliking him. The reasons I dislike him are:
1) he insults his viewers, occasionally even legit fans
2) He talks about tips way more than I've seen other streamers do
3) he sometimes says really gross and crude things, burping included
4) I'm not a fan of watching people play video games in general unless it's someone I find entertaining or a game I find entertaining
5) The community of hatred around him is exhausting and occasionally makes the streams not fun to watch

Not liking phil does not mean I automatically hate Phil. I don't hate Phil because the things he does do not affect me personally. I do watch Phil's streams (albeit less now) but I'm usually looking at other stuff or just reading/writing in chat. Participating in chat does not make me a fan of Phil.

The reason I am posting here is the same reason you guys are posting here. I am giving my thoughts and responding to others. That provides entertainment for me. Beyond giving my perspective on things, I don't have an agenda. I don't have a desire to comb through 500 pages of material on someone I don't care about. It's a waste of my time. If my opinion on something was mentioned and debunked in a previous portion of the thread, that's fine. Feel free to say so and move on.

I said I think detractors are mean. I said this specifically because I've seen many detractors wishing harm on Phil and trying to ruin his life. My personal opinion is that it is cruel to wish harm on someone and it is cruel to try to ruin someone's life, especially if that person did nothing to you personally. I don't care about detractors beyond this except when the detractor shit in chat gets so bad that it makes the stream annoying to watch. FWIW, I found Phil through detractor content. I saw him through mighty d's videos and that's 100% a lie. I found these videos funny and entertaining. I don't think all detractors are entertaining, I find some legitimately annoying, and I think it's hypocritical to say someone is unoriginal and boring when you are watching that person's content through a restreamer. You don't have to agree. Beyond that I don't care about detractors.

Again, I am not a fan of Phil. I do not have an agenda beyond interacting with people in the thread and giving my thoughts. In fact, @Cyber Bowling calmly responded to one of my posts, and I told him he brought up good points and I agreed with certain things he said. I am here for entertainment value, just like I watch Phil streams for entertainment value, just like you watch restreamers/Tevin/post here for entertainment value. There is nothing beyond that.
You are so hung up on the "unoriginal and boring" part. Nobody is saying "Oh Phil is a pretty nice guy but he's unoriginal and boring therefore I cannot watch his streams, luckily I can watch someone else who restreams him." No, people dislike Phil for 20345820 reasons, two of them happen to be "unoriginal and boring". As long as the restreamers don't also possess the other 20345818 negative traits, then it's not hypocritical. They don't like Phil... one of the reasons being his unoriginality. Nobody solely dislikes Phil for that reason. That's just about the least offensive thing about him.
 
I said I think detractors are mean. I said this specifically because I've seen many detractors wishing harm on Phil and trying to ruin his life. My personal opinion is that it is cruel to wish harm on someone and it is cruel to try to ruin someone's life, especially if that person did nothing to you personally. I don't care about detractors beyond this except when the detractor shit in chat gets so bad that it makes the stream annoying to watch. FWIW, I found Phil through detractor content. I saw him through mighty d's videos and that's 100% a lie. I found these videos funny and entertaining. I don't think all detractors are entertaining, I find some legitimately annoying, and I think it's hypocritical to say someone is unoriginal and boring when you are watching that person's content through a restreamer. You don't have to agree. Beyond that I don't care about detractors.
We have a whole thread for DSP a-logs you should check out if you haven't already.

There is a big difference between posting stupid shit on kiwifarms about Phil and to dress up as frogs and sneak into his garden / middle unit condo to actively fuck with Phil.

I think I speak for most of us here when I say We're not mean we just like laughing at a fat man playing games badly :(

We also like laughing at a-logs who take Phil too seriously and seem super fucked up in how they want rid of Phil like Freddy Fuchboi and Fayt did.



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Also nobody seriously expects you to read these threads in their entirety thats fucking lunacy, there is a search function or if you're not sure just ask in the main thread someone will be quick to answer or link you the thread. We're a pretty nice bunch that way :)
 
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You are so hung up on the "unoriginal and boring" part. Nobody is saying "Oh Phil is a pretty nice guy but he's unoriginal and boring therefore I cannot watch his streams, luckily I can watch someone else who restreams him." No, people dislike Phil for 20345820 reasons, two of them happen to be "unoriginal and boring". As long as the restreamers don't also possess the other 20345818 negative traits, then it's not hypocritical. They don't like Phil... one of the reasons being his unoriginality. Nobody solely dislikes Phil for that reason. That's just about the least offensive thing about him.

I literally gave 4-5 reasons i don't like Phil and you hyperfocus on one line out of my entire post.
 
We're not mean
Well, some of us are. I called the dude a fag and implied I fucked their mom. That wasn't nice.

@sharpie what you need to understand if you're going to stay here is that Phil, like many lolcows, is very divisive in that he crosses a line for many people, and so some of us, present company included for transparency, find ourselves hating Phil very much at some points. We still don't fuck with him directly. Most of us are too lazy for that anyway. But you are going to encounter people who express desire to see Phil suspended from the ceiling upside down by his scrotum and, as long as people don't go overboard with it, you're going to need to accept that fact.
 
I literally gave 4-5 reasons i don't like Phil and you hyperfocus on one line out of my entire post.
The only thing I'm hyperfocusing on is your use of the word "hypocrisy" because you don't know what it means.

And my post had nothing to do with your reasons for disliking Phil. Look, I get that you're trolling. It was fun for awhile but it's boring now.
 
Attempt 5. I'll try to strip it down even further

Detractors: Phil is unoriginal. Unoriginal is bad.

Restreamers: stream phil's exact content

Detractors: restream content is good.
Nobody only dislikes Phil because he's unoriginal. People (you included) have multiple reasons to dislike Phil. Liking something that only shares 1 trait with something you dislike doesn't make you a hypocrite.
 
Nobody only dislikes Phil because he's unoriginal. People (you included) have multiple reasons to dislike Phil. Liking something that only shares 1 trait with something you dislike doesn't make you a hypocrite.

Who cares if that's not the only reason you dislike Phil? It's an example of hypocrisy. That's the point of the post.
 
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