2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Excerpt from Trump interview at the recent military game

Some highlights:
  • 1:20 - Beginning of discussion about Texas SCOTUS case. "No, it's not over, we keep going, and we're going to continue to go forward. We have numerous local cases. [...] In Wisconsin, we have a case going on right now."
  • 2:00 - Discussion of the Electoral College meeting. "We're going to speed it up as much as we can, but you can only go so fast. They give us very little time, but we caught them..."
  • 3:15 - "No, I worry about the country having an illegitimate President..."
 
This kind of talk is annoying me far more then anything from the left. Either go through with your civil war talk or shut up and unironically accept Biden "won". They're going to come after them for this kind of talk at some point if they don't stop.
This is so beyond stupid at this point, they are just providing endless evidence that everything the left has been saying about them for the past four years is true and in the end it will all amount to nothing except idiots losing their jobs and/or getting arrested for fedposting.
 
There is, but there's always a chance for another "lolno" situation.
wisc case will be a bellweather since it went to oral arguments and the fraud is more about violations of state law vs schennigans.

if it denies trump because it doesnt want to toss out votes then we can expect there is no legal remedy for trump.
 
That would play into his opposition propaganda.
What I would do is pardon, commute and give clemency to every non violent offending in federal prison.

Empty the jails. Say since the election was suspect (and no audit) then the moral authority to keep them locked up is suspect.

Considering how Biden and company said they'll go after any one trump pardons. This would make all the releasees loyal to trump.

Make it better. Make a photo Op about releasing all black federal inmates.
Why not both?
 
This kind of talk is annoying me far more then anything from the left. Either go through with your civil war talk or shut up and unironically accept Biden "won". They're going to come after them for this kind of talk at some point if they don't stop.
More than likely they're probably trying to morale boost others into taking action or psyche others up into acting because they themselves are too cowardly too. It's often more effective than people give it credit for but I don't disagree, they should put up or shut up because at that point they're relying on lower IQ people that fall for those kind of tactics or mentally deranged people and that's another can of worms.
 
His recent "Trust the Plan!" tendencies aside, AA did a pretty good breakdown of the different narratives going around at this moment. I'm firmly in the "Trump doesn't know what he's doing" category like Barnes, who have all pretty much accepted that Biden's going to be President on January 20th, but it's a good way to see why some people are still holding out hope. The next people who are going to give up are the Hold the Line category, probably before the year's end. The Trust the Plan crowd are going to get buttblasted after January 20th and will probably have their realities shattered after trusting Q bullshit for so long.

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i'm inbetween hold the line and trump doesn't know what he's doing. We know how they commited fraud, where they committed fraud and who committed it. but we don't know how to get anyone to hear it in the courts. the no standing/laches catch-22 is going to be tough to break, and courts aren't willing to throw out votes not matter what proof we bring. if the judges hate trump there's nothing to compel them to give him a fair trial.

i mean you have posters like @Rich Evans Apologist saying this was a clean election despite states officials refusing to release information proving it.
 
yeah but Obama hated clinton
"Officially", Obama was terrified that Trump wouldn't roll over and allow Hillary to contest the election to the bitter end "for the sake of the country" according to the book Shattered. But we now know, Obama was fast at work on manufacturing the Russiagate scandal as his final "fuck you" to Trump by way of plotting to have Trump framed for treason so he could be forcibly removed from office in disgrace.

I bet he'll be kicking himself if Pence decides that it is not over in 2020.
Pence is a dead man walking in his own way, due to the fact that by being Trump's VP making him guilty by association in the eyes of the DNC and lunatic left. He has no real reason to stab Trump in the back, because he's fucked just like Trump if they steal the election.

Someone say the words "Insurrection Act" to Donald.
It's been said to him countless times; he won't pull the trigger though because doing so is a one way trip. It's the proverbial "crossing the rubicon" moment since once Trump invokes it, you basically are shattering the nation and unless you manage to come out on top of the shitstorm that ensues once you invoke it, you are fucked.
 
It's been said to him countless times; he won't pull the trigger though because doing so is a one way trip. It's the proverbial "crossing the rubicon" moment since once Trump invokes it, you basically are shattering the nation and unless you manage to come out on top of the shitstorm that ensues once you invoke it, you are fucked.
He's fucked no matter what.
 
"Officially", Obama was terrified that Trump wouldn't roll over and allow Hillary to contest the election to the bitter end "for the sake of the country" according to the book Shattered. But we now know, Obama was fast at work on manufacturing the Russiagate scandal as his final "fuck you" to Trump by way of plotting to have Trump framed for treason so he could be forcibly removed from office in disgrace.


Pence is a dead man walking in his own way, due to the fact that by being Trump's VP making him guilty by association in the eyes of the DNC and lunatic left. He has no real reason to stab Trump in the back, because he's fucked just like Trump if they steal the election.


It's been said to him countless times; he won't pull the trigger though because doing so is a one way trip. It's the proverbial "crossing the rubicon" moment since once Trump invokes it, you basically are shattering the nation and unless you manage to come out on top of the shitstorm that ensues once you invoke it, you are fucked.
We already have the media saying he should be prosecuted for trying to cause a civil uprising and numerous supporters of his have openly said they would attack even if he doesn't. At this point, he'd be screwed almost as much as if he did do it.
 
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powell did good work on a few recent cases but she's been off her rocker since she invited herself to the election fraud party. giuliani has embarrassed himself repeatedly and lin wood threw his hat in the ring to grift for attention and money.

i believe there was fraud and that it was substantial, but the inevitable result of biden taking home the win was clear from the moment that the institutional republicans made their decision to drop trump clear. without the full power of the RNC, trump simply didn't have enough time to turn public favor fast enough to justify disenfranchising voters. in a few months, i bet he could, but biden will be in office by then and there's no takesies-backsies for president.

If there is such rampant fraud, then Biden taking office actually disenfranchises voters. I don’t see how it is “disenfranchisement“ when you overturn a clear effort to cheat. If your side wins via cheating, you’re disenfranchising everyone that voted, including yourself. Losing normally means that you tried, winning normally means that your side got the edge. Losing via fraud is disenfranchisement, winning via fraud is both disenfranchising your “winning” side and guaranteeing that your side both will never be trusted by anyone with common sense nor will you be allowed to change your mind on leadership, because guess what? You’re a puppet now and forevermore.

If there is fraud that flips states and it is allowed to hold, the Dems won’t even let you primary their leadership out of office. Progressives try to go third party? Good luck with beating a corporate machine. You won’t be able to go to the GOP for help either, you think the RINOs aren’t going to let that cheating method snake its way in? Try to make your own party to replace both? Ok, have fun fighting off every power hungry moron from within, the media campaign efforts to erase your relevance, the lack of any real funding at any time, and the government obstruction from the two parties that hold the reins of power.

This is why sorting this mess out now is important. There are deadlines left and right that are coming up, but if evidence that cannot be ignored under any circumstance comes up on January 19, at 11:59pm, there better be a whirlwind that flips everything over because we can’t let it stand. “Biden cheated but hey it is too late no refunds lol Trump got out conned rofl” is the worst possible outcome we can have. It will set the stage for every election from that point forward. I would rather not have the election cycle turn into rampant cheating contests and bribe wars, they never end well for anyone.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
 
i'm inbetween hold the line and trump doesn't know what he's doing. We know how they commited fraud, where they committed fraud and who committed it. but we don't know how to get anyone to hear it in the courts. the no standing/laches catch-22 is going to be tough to break, and courts aren't willing to throw out votes not matter what proof we bring. if the judges hate trump there's nothing to compel them to give him a fair trial.

i mean you have posters like @Rich Evans Apologist saying this was a clean election despite states officials refusing to release information proving it.
I think everyone aside from the "Orange Man Bad" (HHH) and the additional "Fuck DJT because he's a childish moron" category (SecretAsshole, Null) believe that fraud was committed, including myself. The difference between the narratives that are mentioned there is how it will be dealt with. I can't believe in the Hold the Line thing because I don't have confidence that the legislatures won't fuck Trump over since every other body in government has done so until now.

As for the the Trust the Plan category... it's fucking lunacy. It's built on the idea that Trump is a master interdimensional 4d chess manipulator that has orchestrated every move since 2015 and everything has gone his way. Trusting the plan implies that you believe that the coming month will be the most mind-blowing existential event in the nation's history since the Declaration of Independence. Reality is pretty much the opposite of this narrative. Trump's currently being backstabbed by all his allies. All of his venues have essentially dried up, and the only thing that has really had me thinking about this for just a moment is the fact that he's cozying up with the military. Other than that, only the fringiest loons would believe this.

Then again... it is 2020.
 
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Barnes says the path to victory is through Congress voting by delegation, not by the courts.

The best thing about a Biden inauguration will be watching all the Qanon get BTFO. It won't stop them of course, it'll just make them double down.
 
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