US Final Presidental Debate 2020

WELCOME TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!!
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What time is the debate?

Starts at 6pm-7:30pm PST / 8pm CST-9:30pm CST / 9pm-10:30pm EST

How do I watch?

The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel. Stream will be linked here when it's up.


Where?

Belmont University in Nashville.

Who is moderating?​

Kristen Welker

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Candidates-​

Donald J Trump​

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Joseph R Biden​

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The debate will cover six topics:
1) The fight against COVID-19
2) American families
3) Race in America
4) Climate change
5) National security
6) Leadership

New rule: Seeing as the debate is digital, the commission has to give two minutes to let a candidate speak for a given topic. From there it goes into a large back and forth. If one candidate over-speaks or speaks when it's the other's turn, he will be muted.
Well, it’s almost over.

Thursday’s matchup between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden will mark the end of a presidential debate season that has spanned 16 months. Since June 2019, Americans have been asked to watch more than 30 hours of robust discussion spread over 13 Democratic primary events, one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate.

The final debate follows weeks of surprise illness, controversy and the Trump campaign’s feuds with both the Biden team and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. What was meant to be the second presidential debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after Trump rejected the commission’s decision to hold a virtual event in light of his COVID-19 diagnosis early this month. Instead, the two candidates participated in dueling town halls.


Tension between the president’s campaign and the commission grew this week when the the commission announced it would cut off sound to the candidates’ microphones when it wasn’t their turn to speak. The panel is aiming to prevent the kind of constant interruptions — mainly from the president — that plagued the first debate. Trump’s team also criticized the subjects announced by moderator Kristen Welker, an NBC News White House correspondent.

Here’s what you need to know:

What time is the debate?​


The debate will start at 6 p.m. Pacific time Thursday and last 90 minutes, with no commercial breaks. It will be held at Belmont University in Nashville.

How do I watch?​


The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel.

Who is moderating?​


NBC’s Welker is moderating the debate, which will cover six topics: the fight against COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership. The topics Welker chose were announced Friday.

Three days later, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien wrote to the commission that the campaign had expected foreign policy to be the focus and had been promised as much, an assertion the commission said was not true. The letter also accused the commission of engaging in “pro-Biden antics” such as not rescheduling debates based on the Trump campaign’s requests.

No debate in 2020 was ever designated by CPD as devoted to foreign or domestic policy,” the commission wrote on its Twitter account. “The same was true in 2016, when President Trump participated in the CPD debates. The choice of topics is left entirely to the journalistic judgment of the moderators.”

Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo challenged Stepien’s characterization.



“The campaigns and the commission agreed months ago that the debate moderator would choose the topics,” Ducklo said. “The Trump campaign is lying about that now because Donald Trump is afraid to face more questions about his disastrous COVID response.”


What does Trump have to say about Welker?​


The president has a long history of clashing with debate hosts. This year he accused both Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who moderated the first debate, and C-SPAN’s Steve Scully, who would have moderated the Oct. 15 debate, of being biased. Scully was suspended by C-SPAN after he admitted to lying about a tweet he sent to former Trump aide and now critic Anthony Scaramucci.


Trump reserved the same treatment for Welker.

As recently as January, the president congratulated Welker on her new role as a co-anchor on NBC’s “Weekend Today,” saying the network made a “very wise decision.” But in the days leading up to the debate, the president and his allies have attempted to undermine her. The campaign has pointed to reports from Fox News and the New York Post on her parents’ donations to Democratic candidates, though Welker herself is an independent, according to the Associated Press.

What do the candidates think of the microphone rule?​


Asked about the rule change during an extensive phone interview with the hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday, the president said, “The whole thing is crazy.” He repeated a false claim that the commission purposely “stifled out,” “muted” and “modulated” his mic during a 2016 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.

“They actually had to write me a letter of apology,” he said during the call.

(The commission put out a brief statement at the time saying, “There were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.” The sound issue was not apparent on television broadcasts.)

Biden supports the rule change. “I think it’s a good idea, I think there should be more limitations on not interrupting one another,” he told Milwaukee’s ABC News affiliate WISN in an interview Tuesday.

What are the candidates going to talk about?​


Based on the debate topics and recent comments by the campaigns, Biden will probably focus on the president’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has left more than 221,000 Americans dead and millions unemployed.

The president has falsely accused Biden of supporting defunding the police in the past and will probably repeat that claim Thursday. Trump is also expected to bring up Biden’s past comments on fracking and his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Both candidates are likely to hit the other on China. Although the Trump campaign has tried to portray Biden as weak on China and misrepresented his son Hunter Biden’s business dealings there, members of the president’s family, including daughter Ivanka, also have had dealings in China. The New York Times reported this week that President Trump has a Chinese bank account through one of his businesses and paid nearly $200,000 in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015.



Regardless of the topics, the former vice president’s son is likely to be a main target of the president. The New York Post has reported on emails provided by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that he said were retrieved from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly left at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden. It’s unclear whether any steps were taken to verify the authenticity of emails found on the laptop, nor do they support the unfounded allegations that Joe Biden misused his authority as vice president to help his son’s foreign interests. Trump’s claims dovetail with a Russian disinformation effort that U.S. intelligence officials say is designed to undermine Biden’s candidacy.

Is the president going to try a different debate strategy?​


Probably not. Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” asked Trump whether he was planning on changing his debate strategy or introducing new people to his prep team, and whether he would take time to correct any falsehoods from Biden.

“Will you take some of your time and answer the previous question, like Mike Pence did, and then answer their question?” Kilmeade asked the president Tuesday.

“Well look, I do my own debating. I do fine, and I do my own debating, and a lot of people said I won,” Trump said. “Look, when somebody stands there and he lies, lies, lies, I like to challenge it at the time, because you don’t have time to go back.”

Although Biden at the last debate incorrectly said the U.S. had a higher trade deficit with China now than before Trump took office, Trump made multiple false statements, including about mail voting, the economy and his administration’s approach to healthcare.

The president did acknowledge that some people had suggested he let Biden finish his thoughts. “There are a lot of people that say, ‘Let him talk,’ because he loses his train, he loses his train, he loses his mind, frankly,” Trump said.

When is the next debate?​


We’ll get back to you in 2023.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won the final debate. Have fun!
Thank you to everybody following the 2019-2020 presidential cycle and tuning into the debates, it's been a lot of fun and I hope you guys had as much fun as I have. These only come once every 4 years and seem like a slowly fading tradition, I hope the entertainment can be kept alive for future generations. I really enjoy seeing the replies, live takes, responses and memes.

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Guys, the term "coyote" has been used since at least the early 1900s to describe border smugglers how the fuck have you never heard about this.
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It's at the point now where I really can't help but wonder if people are really this stupid, or if there's a deliberate campaign of cognitive dissonance by some CTR-like entity to try and memory hole certain definitions of words just to make Trump, his base, etc look like bad.
 
I remember watching a hospital show and the main character doctor went home and found his wife on the ground all bloody and he dials 911 and I remember he said something like, “I need a ambulance and don’t send a EMT I want paramedics” or something. I didn’t know there was a difference at the time I saw the episode.
In general paramedics have more extensive training and are allowed to do certain things that EMTs aren't trained or qualified to.
 
For the most part, his voters don't really know why either.
After months of not seeing any Biden signs or bumper stickers, I've started to see a few here and there--including some that flat-out say, "Settle for Biden." And this morning, the two most TDS-afflicted people I still haven't filtered off my Facebook feed felt compelled to frantically remind their friends to "Vote Blue, No Matter Who!", which has to rank as the least-inspiring campaign slogan of all time.

I've assumed the "Settle for Biden" signs and stickers have been produced and distributed by Trump supporters as a masterful troll move, because surely, the Dems would understand just how sad and demoralizing that statement is, right? But, knowing the Dems, I'm probably wrong, and they really did think this was a good idea.
 
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It's at the point now where I really can't help but wonder if people are really this stupid, or if there's a deliberate campaign of cognitive dissonance by some CTR-like entity to try and memory hole certain definitions of words just to make Trump, his base, etc look like bad.
I'd say it is classic gaslighting - denying the meaning of a word to change it into something that fits your agenda.
 
I remember watching a hospital show and the main character doctor went home and found his wife on the ground all bloody and he dials 911 and I remember he said something like, “I need a ambulance and don’t send a EMT I want paramedics” or something. I didn’t know there was a difference at the time I saw the episode.
Emts use duct tape. Paramedics use glue
 
These are the fuckers that overlap with the crowd that insists Latinx is a real word. They don't know shit from shinola when it comes to what goes on south of the border
There are literally trashy telenovelas with the term in the title. Trump is literally more on the pulse with Spanish speaking immigrants than those larpers.

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I'm not sure if this was posted, but the Dark Winter thing Biden was spouting was actually a Tom Clancy reference (in his mind, to be clear.)

More Dark Winter exercise info:
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events-archive/2001_dark-winter/index.html (https://archive.vn/iIpcw)
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events-archive/2001_dark-winter/about.html (https://archive.vn/QE59k)
http://www.upmc-biosecurity.org/website/events/2001_darkwinter/index.html (https://archive.vn/EVJkH)
https://archive.org/details/gov.gpo.fdsys.CHRG-107shrg79479/mode/2up

Operation Dark Winter was the code name for a senior-level bio-terrorist attack simulation conducted from June 22–23, 2001.[1][2][3] It was designed to carry out a mock version of a covert and widespread smallpox attack on the United States. Tara O'Toole and Thomas Inglesby of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies (CCBS) / Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), and Randy Larsen and Mark DeMier of Analytic Services were the principal designers, authors, and controllers of the Dark Winter project.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter
 

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Does anyone have clip of Trump going "oooooooo" after Biden says he's gonna eliminate the subsidies for oil & gas. Man, I laughed so hard at that expression Trump made. It's like he knew he had it in the bag then & there.

Please help a Kiwi out.

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I'd like this as well as when Biden says "I don't know where this guy is from" and Trump says "Queens".

As someone born in Queens (literally 5 minutes from the Trumps), raised in Queens, is still in Queens and is 100% New Yorker, I have to say I had a huge smile when he said that.

Anyway, it's attached as an MP4, or alternately I stuck it on Imgur:

 

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It's real sobering to know the idiots accidentally revealing they have no idea what "coyote" means in the context of immigration are the same people who're trying to tell us border states how we're bad, bad people in enforcing immigration laws and that ICE needs to be abolished and to have open borders, and yet claim they're all for women's rights and that they hate slavery and human trafficking.

And some of them live in a border state. The urban bubble needs to pop so they can finally see the real world for what it truly is, but at the same time it's keeping these morons rounded up in a place we can see to avoid them. It's conflicting.
 
Final update of the evening

WRPI (CBS) - Trump 11%, Biden 88%, Tie (good) 0%, Tie (bad) 0%, Didn't change my mind - 87% - 133,265 responses

ABC - Trump 51% (3.3/5), Biden 49% (3.1/5), 'mute was used just the right amount of times', 'I don't want more debates' 62%, 'Didn't change my mind' 90%, 'I haven't voted' 59% - ????? responses

NJ - Trump 54.79%, Biden 45.29% - 197,982 responses

Leftie Tweet - Trump 49%, Biden 41%, Tie 10% - 93,787 votes

CBS is out here going for the unironic 90% Biden win. Even CNN didn't try to pull that. Every other poll puts trump slightly or clearly ahead, and people pretty much unanimously feel they already knew by now who they were voting for.
It's a new day and the evening time for the east coast, so we can assume these are the final results for the polls:

WRPI (CBS) - Trump 10%, Biden 89%, (1,669,257 responses) 'didn't change my mind' 87 - (158,154 responses)

ABC - Unchanged. The poll appears to be closed.

NJ - Trump 56.2%, Biden 43.8%, (237,476 responses)

Leftie Tweet - Unchanged. Poll closed at 93,787 votes.

Conclusion: WRPI's results are bogus, I missed originally that there were different response numbers for the two questions. A random CBS affiliate ending up with almost 2 million votes on an internet poll overnight, compared to 100k-200k for every other poll, and it being the only one that voted Biden ahead (at insane numbers), means someone just ran a script and repeatedly voted Biden. The original results for the ABC poll before it shot off into space for Biden was Trump 52%, Biden 43%, with the same 86% 'did not change my mind', so that's the likely accurate number. The general consensus is that Trump won the third debate.

CNN's poll, for comparison (which was telephone based and only contacted 585 voters) had Trump 39%, Biden 53%. That means CNN viewers thought Trump did as well in this debate as he did against Clinton, and also as well as Bush vs Kerry. (The history is listed here, for amusement. CNN literally never thinks the R candidate did better)
 
The Coyote thing reminds me of the latest Rambo, where the media shit on the film for having Mexican cartels. And since you can't say anything negative about the people of Mexico (while also arguing that they need to escape from Mexico) then it's wrong that any sort of human trafficking exists. So fuck those kids who are being trafficked as slaves, they don't exist because those people need to vilify Trump at all costs.
 
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