US Final Presidental Debate 2020

WELCOME TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!!
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What time is the debate?

Starts at 6pm-7:30pm PST / 8pm CST-9:30pm CST / 9pm-10:30pm EST

How do I watch?

The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel. Stream will be linked here when it's up.


Where?

Belmont University in Nashville.

Who is moderating?​

Kristen Welker

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Candidates-​

Donald J Trump​

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Joseph R Biden​

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The debate will cover six topics:
1) The fight against COVID-19
2) American families
3) Race in America
4) Climate change
5) National security
6) Leadership

New rule: Seeing as the debate is digital, the commission has to give two minutes to let a candidate speak for a given topic. From there it goes into a large back and forth. If one candidate over-speaks or speaks when it's the other's turn, he will be muted.
Well, it’s almost over.

Thursday’s matchup between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden will mark the end of a presidential debate season that has spanned 16 months. Since June 2019, Americans have been asked to watch more than 30 hours of robust discussion spread over 13 Democratic primary events, one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate.

The final debate follows weeks of surprise illness, controversy and the Trump campaign’s feuds with both the Biden team and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. What was meant to be the second presidential debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after Trump rejected the commission’s decision to hold a virtual event in light of his COVID-19 diagnosis early this month. Instead, the two candidates participated in dueling town halls.


Tension between the president’s campaign and the commission grew this week when the the commission announced it would cut off sound to the candidates’ microphones when it wasn’t their turn to speak. The panel is aiming to prevent the kind of constant interruptions — mainly from the president — that plagued the first debate. Trump’s team also criticized the subjects announced by moderator Kristen Welker, an NBC News White House correspondent.

Here’s what you need to know:

What time is the debate?​


The debate will start at 6 p.m. Pacific time Thursday and last 90 minutes, with no commercial breaks. It will be held at Belmont University in Nashville.

How do I watch?​


The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel.

Who is moderating?​


NBC’s Welker is moderating the debate, which will cover six topics: the fight against COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership. The topics Welker chose were announced Friday.

Three days later, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien wrote to the commission that the campaign had expected foreign policy to be the focus and had been promised as much, an assertion the commission said was not true. The letter also accused the commission of engaging in “pro-Biden antics” such as not rescheduling debates based on the Trump campaign’s requests.

No debate in 2020 was ever designated by CPD as devoted to foreign or domestic policy,” the commission wrote on its Twitter account. “The same was true in 2016, when President Trump participated in the CPD debates. The choice of topics is left entirely to the journalistic judgment of the moderators.”

Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo challenged Stepien’s characterization.



“The campaigns and the commission agreed months ago that the debate moderator would choose the topics,” Ducklo said. “The Trump campaign is lying about that now because Donald Trump is afraid to face more questions about his disastrous COVID response.”


What does Trump have to say about Welker?​


The president has a long history of clashing with debate hosts. This year he accused both Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who moderated the first debate, and C-SPAN’s Steve Scully, who would have moderated the Oct. 15 debate, of being biased. Scully was suspended by C-SPAN after he admitted to lying about a tweet he sent to former Trump aide and now critic Anthony Scaramucci.


Trump reserved the same treatment for Welker.

As recently as January, the president congratulated Welker on her new role as a co-anchor on NBC’s “Weekend Today,” saying the network made a “very wise decision.” But in the days leading up to the debate, the president and his allies have attempted to undermine her. The campaign has pointed to reports from Fox News and the New York Post on her parents’ donations to Democratic candidates, though Welker herself is an independent, according to the Associated Press.

What do the candidates think of the microphone rule?​


Asked about the rule change during an extensive phone interview with the hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday, the president said, “The whole thing is crazy.” He repeated a false claim that the commission purposely “stifled out,” “muted” and “modulated” his mic during a 2016 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.

“They actually had to write me a letter of apology,” he said during the call.

(The commission put out a brief statement at the time saying, “There were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.” The sound issue was not apparent on television broadcasts.)

Biden supports the rule change. “I think it’s a good idea, I think there should be more limitations on not interrupting one another,” he told Milwaukee’s ABC News affiliate WISN in an interview Tuesday.

What are the candidates going to talk about?​


Based on the debate topics and recent comments by the campaigns, Biden will probably focus on the president’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has left more than 221,000 Americans dead and millions unemployed.

The president has falsely accused Biden of supporting defunding the police in the past and will probably repeat that claim Thursday. Trump is also expected to bring up Biden’s past comments on fracking and his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Both candidates are likely to hit the other on China. Although the Trump campaign has tried to portray Biden as weak on China and misrepresented his son Hunter Biden’s business dealings there, members of the president’s family, including daughter Ivanka, also have had dealings in China. The New York Times reported this week that President Trump has a Chinese bank account through one of his businesses and paid nearly $200,000 in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015.



Regardless of the topics, the former vice president’s son is likely to be a main target of the president. The New York Post has reported on emails provided by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that he said were retrieved from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly left at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden. It’s unclear whether any steps were taken to verify the authenticity of emails found on the laptop, nor do they support the unfounded allegations that Joe Biden misused his authority as vice president to help his son’s foreign interests. Trump’s claims dovetail with a Russian disinformation effort that U.S. intelligence officials say is designed to undermine Biden’s candidacy.

Is the president going to try a different debate strategy?​


Probably not. Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” asked Trump whether he was planning on changing his debate strategy or introducing new people to his prep team, and whether he would take time to correct any falsehoods from Biden.

“Will you take some of your time and answer the previous question, like Mike Pence did, and then answer their question?” Kilmeade asked the president Tuesday.

“Well look, I do my own debating. I do fine, and I do my own debating, and a lot of people said I won,” Trump said. “Look, when somebody stands there and he lies, lies, lies, I like to challenge it at the time, because you don’t have time to go back.”

Although Biden at the last debate incorrectly said the U.S. had a higher trade deficit with China now than before Trump took office, Trump made multiple false statements, including about mail voting, the economy and his administration’s approach to healthcare.

The president did acknowledge that some people had suggested he let Biden finish his thoughts. “There are a lot of people that say, ‘Let him talk,’ because he loses his train, he loses his train, he loses his mind, frankly,” Trump said.

When is the next debate?​


We’ll get back to you in 2023.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won the final debate. Have fun!
Thank you to everybody following the 2019-2020 presidential cycle and tuning into the debates, it's been a lot of fun and I hope you guys had as much fun as I have. These only come once every 4 years and seem like a slowly fading tradition, I hope the entertainment can be kept alive for future generations. I really enjoy seeing the replies, live takes, responses and memes.

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They are, /pol/ is too fast for it's own good; I don't know if it also applied to 4chan, but 8chan back in the day banned any criticism of Trump, valid or not, because WE HAVE TO WIN GUYS.
4chan is too fast for me and the quality has gone really downhill since I last checked it 6 years ago. only the loudest shills can be heard and evreyone must post before the thread quickly sinks to 404.
4chan went downhill very quickly post election imo. Maybe it was just the humor during the 2015-2016 primaries and election that me blind to the shills, but it almost completely dropped in quality merely two weeks after the election results.

Still, those primary days were magical imo. I hope I can see another battle between a Jeb and a Trump before I die.
 
I'm an Aussie, I never heard that term before, but even I figured it was probably slang for people smuggler based on the context of what Trump was saying.
I should've clarified that I meant americans it's understandable that people outside the U.S. don't. It's just the amount of americans that aren't familiar with the term is ridiculous and of course they automatically jump to conclusions that it's a racial term/slur or a literal fucking coyote.
I don't mind people getting a bit confused by the term "Coyotes" in this context, not everyone knows what the fuck happens in immigration, not everyone lives in a border state where its an everyday occurrence, not everyone is knee deep in politics, so it makes sense they would rather think about a looney tunes character rather than body trafficker's when hearing it, specially since its just the name of the animal.
But the problem is that the same people that don't know about it, its the same people who want to finance these fuckers by completely opening the borders and constantly campaign zealously for it, they are batshit crazy, they literally do not know what they are advocating for, all they know is Trump is against it so it must be good
Yeah you're right but considering that immigration is a big issue I assumed that most Americans would be familiar with it, as it turns out not so much.
 
Does anyone have clip of Trump going "oooooooo" after Biden says he's gonna eliminate the subsidies for oil & gas. Man, I laughed so hard at that expression Trump made. It's like he knew he had it in the bag then & there.

Please help a Kiwi out.
 
I should've clarified that I meant americans it's understandable that people outside the U.S. don't. It's just the amount of americans that aren't familiar with the term is ridiculous and of course they automatically jump to conclusions that it's a racial term/slur or a literal fucking coyote.

Yeah you're right but considering that immigration is a big issue I assumed that most Americans would be familiar with it, as it turns out not so much.

It's stunning because even if they're smart enough to know what it means they're just assuming Trump meant there's a Pixar movie happening at the border. As any extremely online person will tell you, if your side's only tactic is purposefully being retarded you'll end up banned.
 
I liked the end where the news guy from ABC stated "That's the debate! Two white men in their seventies...." That shit broke me.

I'm still waiting for that answer from Biden about the cages.
 
"Coyotes didn't bring them over, coyotes are animals and not intelligent!"

I'm a few hundred pages behind, but man, this was actually fucking prescient. This is literally the talking point the left has taken with the Coyotes. They're claiming Trump is a big fat stoopidhead who thinks glorified dogs are carrying babby into America.
 
Does anyone have clip of Trump going "oooooooo" after Biden says he's gonna eliminate the subsidies for oil & gas. Man, I laughed so hard at that expression Trump made. It's like he knew he had it in the bag then & there.

Please help a Kiwi out.
Biden breaks down so easy. that's why his "mistakes" are not really his mistakes. It's literally what Democrats want in the end. It's the absolute truth of their policy.
 
As a non American the biggest breakthrough comment of the night for me was how Biden planned to get rid of oil subsidies and begin to get rid of the industry altogether.

I'm no expert on the matter but I imagine the trickle down effect would increase the price of a lot of things never mind the lost jobs, especially in and around the actual place the debate was held.
Biden plans to get rid of the oil subsidies and then said in the same debate he has plans to streamline the legalization of 11 million people, all while raising national minimum wage to $15/hr.

Death spiral faster than most of my Frost Punk runs.
 
Biden plans to get rid of the oil subsidies and then said in the same debate he has plans to streamline the legalization of 11 million people, all while raising national minimum wage to $15/hr.

Death spiral faster than most of my Frost Punk runs.
Biden policy position is so random and so idiodic that you'd think some freshman year college kid is feeding him information through his ear.
 
There are a lot of really fucking stupid attorneys out there. You can find plenty of "technically attorneys" saying this sort of dumb stuff all over the country. Truth is, and it's no secret, that there are way more lawyers out there than anyone knows what to do with and most of them are useless. Most don't make a ton of money and most aren't worth anything to most law firms.
They're technically lawyers though so they pretend they're hot shit.

You can look them all up to see what they've done.
This lady is a Georgia House Rep and while technically she has and runs a firm, she probably just set it up to look good because it doesn't do anything as far as I can tell. There's a lot more than below but it looks like she basically became a lawyer, worked at a firm for a few years, then became a career politicians and has been doing that for the past decade aka most of her career.

"Look good?" I thought that was some way of leeching farm subsidies or screw over the tax code because you're a "farm owner," or whatnot. I.e., it's a scam.

As for stupid attorneys, remember that the Wokeists have been going into Law the past few years, and those idiots are now getting out and -- thanks to lowering of standards -- passing the Bar. It's literally only a matter of time before we see our first sassy black Critical Race Legal Theory judge giving 1 day or $1 sentences to blacks for reparations.
 
Watched the first 90 minutes of the debate before I tapped out to sleep. Trump did a really, really good job playing the “nice guy.” Biden was ridiculously negative and low energy, to the point that it was hard to focus on what he was even saying. The moment of the night to me was Trump’s “You have to talk ‘em into it, Joe.” You know, do the job of a senator.

Rate me gay but people said in the last debate was that they wanted Pence to be their dad, the way Trump interacted with the moderator this time around made me wish he was my dad. He had a very specific, fatherly tone that he kept taking with her that was totally non-aggressive but was more like he was coaching her on the rules and trying to help her do a better job. Complimenting her was the cherry on top. Might be the internalized patriarchal misogyny talking but it really made me very warm to him. Positive masculinity par excellence.
 
I know this is late though Jesus Fuckin' Christ these people are unironically autistic. If you take that statement literally you shouldn't even engage in politics. Go eat some crayons or somethin'.

I am reading my Facebook feed right now, and I am shocked at the number of people that have never heard of coyotes before.

I mean, Jesus Christ, I learned about coyotes 20 years ago from an episode of Walker Texas Ranger. It's not some weird elitist term. Trump didn't invent the damn term.


I don’t get how, even if you don’t know exactly what “coyote” means in that context, you don’t have the common sense to think,”well, obviously it’s not a real coyote, that must be slang for something else” and then just look it up real quick instead of embarrassing yourself on Twitter.
 
Cheech Marin teaching us about border crossings & coyotes. 0:40 for the coyote reference.
 
I am waiting for Merriam Webster to change the definition of Coyote to saying it’s a racist slur used by white supremacists to refer to the Latinx people who sacrifice their lives to give their children a better future. 🙄
 
Watched the first 90 minutes of the debate before I tapped out to sleep. Trump did a really, really good job playing the “nice guy.” Biden was ridiculously negative and low energy, to the point that it was hard to focus on what he was even saying. The moment of the night to me was Trump’s “You have to talk ‘em into it, Joe.” You know, do the job of a senator.

Rate me gay but people said in the last debate was that they wanted Pence to be their dad, the way Trump interacted with the moderator this time around made me wish he was my dad. He had a very specific, fatherly tone that he kept taking with her that was totally non-aggressive but was more like he was coaching her on the rules and trying to help her do a better job. Complimenting her was the cherry on top. Might be the internalized patriarchal misogyny talking but it really made me very warm to him. Positive masculinity par excellence.
Joe kind of reminded me of pele at e3
 
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