John Cameron Denton & Atomwaffen Division / Siegeculture - Satanic Vampire Neo-Nazis, autistic Strasserists, Helter Skelter cult

[KiwiNexion]

To think i narrowly avoided joining this type of group a while back. Wonder where i would be at now if i had.

Gee who's to say. Probably catfishing your mates in knee-highs and loli-posting on pleroma.

 

[le fishe]

Gee who's to say. Probably catfishing your mates in knee-highs and loli-posting on pleroma.

i've already done that so no difference

 

[Hesa]

Taylor Parker-Dipeppe takes a plea deal.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.284366/gov.uscourts.wawd.284366.124.0.pdf

More info here.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/investigations/second-neo-nazi-pleads-guilty-to-threats-against-journalists/281-dc73cd3a-e645-45b8-8b15-fe87f32f7fb4?fbclid=IwAR2f8l3nERo0uO1geHDnIG3qVpgB3H6AeXh2ns_-_PzTGlAaFbSwTAxjXWc

 

[Sicklick]

He's not entirely wrong. Have you heard of Color Climax? That company infamously had magazines featuring then-legal CP until 1979.

Common Filth brought this up on CFR.

America is a country that banned CP in 1978 but didn't outlaw zoo shit or necrophilia until just now (i.e. within the last 4 or 5 years). I remember back in 2012/13 when only 2 states had anti-bestiality laws. Why did it take them that long? With CP it only took them 10 FUCKING YEARS TO BAN IT. What the fuck, man? Even animal crush porn wasn't outlawed in America until 2010. Why not just ban them all at once for fuck's sake you fucking deviants?

 

[AnOminous]

Even animal crush porn wasn't outlawed in America until 2010.

And that law was thrown out as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court 8-1 in 2010.

 

[Sicklick]

And that law was thrown out as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court 8-1 in 2010.

Sure, pedos are bad, but everything else is just perfectly fine? Even necrophilia, bestiality, animal crush/zoosadism,and every other kind of horror known to man? Also, kiddy porn was legal in the US between the late 50s - 70s after porn was made legal again in 1957, uplifting the 1873 Comstock Act which outlawed pornography for some time when prior obscenity was only prosecuted on a state level going back to 1815 in Pennsylvania. Also worthy of note is that in Colonial America, there was no laws against "obscenity". See pics related.

It seems American lawmakers are lazy. They'll let shit like this slip for years and years whereas in other countries, like Canada or New Zealand, they'll immediately take action. Take for example, obscenity. The Saw movie was banned in NZ/Australia under their obscenity laws, as was other grotesque films. In America, even August Underground's Mordum isn't even banned.

 

[AnOminous]

It seems American lawmakers are lazy. They'll let shit like this slip for years and years whereas in other countries, like Canada or New Zealand, they'll immediately take action.

More like they're just not stupid and realize blatantly unconstitutional laws will be thrown out nearly unanimously by our Supreme Court.

 

[Sicklick]

More like they're just not stupid and realize blatantly unconstitutional laws will be thrown out nearly unanimously by our Supreme Court.

But what in your opinion differentiates animal crush porn from child pornography? In my opinion they're both the same in that they get off to abuse, whether that be of underage children whose brains aren't developed enough to where they can consent or sadistically torturing animals for no other purpose than amusement and sexual gratification.

 

[AnOminous]

But what in your opinion differentiates animal crush porn from child pornography? In my opinion they're both the same in that they get off to abuse, whether that be of underage children whose brains aren't developed enough to where they can consent or sadistically torturing animals for no other purpose than amusement and sexual gratification.

For one thing the first thing involves animals, so it's legal to kill animals, it's legal to kill them and chop them up and eat their bodies, it's just not legal to kill them solely for the purpose of amusement. It's always illegal to abuse children, and it is considered one of the vilest acts imaginable. However, most crimes aren't illegal to possess videotapes of, and sadistically torturing animals, as illegal as that itself is, are not in this very special class of crime.

It's degenerate, I wouldn't mind seeing people who did it get killed for doing it, but merely possessing video of it happening is not, as yet, illegal.

Arguably, there is no principled distinction between this and CP but CP is unquestionably illegal and crush porn may or may not be illegal depending on whether the new version of the law against it actually survives constitutional scrutiny.

 

[KiwiNexion]

On the topic of CP, I am curious about why the FED and the media say Denton had possession of CP although this is not one of his charges.

 

[AnOminous]

On the topic of CP, I am curious about why the FED and the media say Denton had possession of CP although this is not one of his charges.

If he isn't charged with it that could explain any cooperation with the authorities he's done, if he has indeed done any. There are very harsh mandatory minimums based almost entirely on what the prosecution chooses to charge you with.

 

[KiwiNexion]

If he isn't charged with it that could explain any cooperation with the authorities he's done, if he has indeed done any. There are very harsh mandatory minimums based almost entirely on what the prosecution chooses to charge you with.

I highly doubt he has "cooperation with the authorities". Which adds to my confusion of course. Quite interested, seeing as it is so harsh, and it interests me how there is no charge if this is indeed what they report.

 

[AnOminous]

I highly doubt he has "cooperation with the authorities". Which adds to my confusion of course. Quite interested, seeing as it is so harsh, and it interests me how there is no charge if this is indeed what they report.

Another possibility is they're straight up lying to make him look bad. I can't see why they wouldn't charge him with something that is so easy to get a harsh sentence on though if there's any real evidence of it. Contraband cases are like drugs, if they have the contraband, they have the conviction. If they don't have the contraband, either because they literally physically don't have it or can't introduce it into evidence, they don't.

So barring it being unprosecutable or something else, such as the feds outright lying (which has been known to happen) it would be a peculiar choice not to prosecute.

 

[KiwiNexion]

Another possibility is they're straight up lying to make him look bad. I can't see why they wouldn't charge him with something that is so easy to get a harsh sentence on though if there's any real evidence of it. Contraband cases are like drugs, if they have the contraband, they have the conviction. If they don't have the contraband, either because they literally physically don't have it or can't introduce it into evidence, they don't.

So barring it being unprosecutable or something else, such as the feds outright lying (which has been known to happen) it would be a peculiar choice not to prosecute.

Although I wouldn't put such disgraceful lies past the Federal Agents assigned to cases such as his, I equally disbelieve that Denton is innocent on this front. For a person who enjoyed and promoted 'Iron Gates' so much as he did, and who is evidenced only here, private communication aside, to keep the company of such people....Did pictures of an underaged girl not have to be deleted in this very thread?

I could not say that either surprises me in the slightest: The FED lies, as does the predator. You make a good point though on contraband, perhaps they simply could not prove it beyond doubt to be his. An odd move to declare it and not charge it still. If he can contest this as slander and defamation, why not do so? If he cannot, why not prosecute? The law works in mysterious ways!
Maybe he cast a disappearing spell on his external hard drive. Hexed these Agents into befuddlement, perhaps. Who can say.

 

[naught]

James Mason vs Bob Larson round deux.
If I were these lads i wouldn't announce it.
Well I don't speak with people who glow (even if it's by proxy).

Source: telegram

On the topic of CP, I am curious about why the FED and the media say Denton had possession of CP although this is not one of his charges.

He likely had some hentai and it added to his existing charges.

 

[AnOminous]

He likely had some hentai and it added to his existing charges.

It didn't though. There was only one count against him, the swatting/threats stuff.

 

[naught]

It didn't though. There was only one count against him, the swatting/threats stuff.

Ver archivo adjunto 1643455

Cantwell flashbacks.
No wonder they all have podcasts where they heavily suggest their audience fuck with journalist's.
Terry a Davis was right they glow..

Hal Turner comes to mind.

Edit: I applaud you for your legal wisdom. As you might be able to tell I'm not well versed and im weary of all side's..

 

[ulsterscotsman]

There's at least two groups in Europe now that's active and using the Atomwaffen name called Atomwaffen Division Russland (AWDR) which is new and Atomwaffen Division Germany (AWDD) which is now independent from the American AWD due to it collapsing.
What ever happen to that Atomwaffen fission group that Mason and the old AWD was calling feds?

 

[KiwiNexion]

There's at least two groups in Europe now that's active and using the Atomwaffen name called Atomwaffen Division Russland (AWDR) which is new and Atomwaffen Division Germany (AWDD) which is now independent from the American AWD due to it collapsing.
What ever happen to that Atomwaffen fission group that Mason and the old AWD was calling feds?

Don't forget:
NSO (National Socialist Order).
The Base International.
Deutchland.
RWD, as an aside.

Ah, and the Independent cells.

"Exporting the AWD brand looks good for us" according to an american member.
Yet, they called them FED! Funny.

Fission was Eastern Europe and better equipped for propaganda. Theirs was indisputably better quality. Drone cameras and all. No surprise they were affectionately FedWaffen.

 

[KiwiNexion]

Don't forget:
NSO (National Socialist Order).
The Base International.
Deutchland.
RWD, as an aside.

Ah, and the Independent cells.

"Exporting the AWD brand looks good for us" according to an american member.
Yet, they called them FED! Funny.

Fission was Eastern Europe and better equipped for propaganda. Theirs was indisputably better quality. Drone cameras and all. No surprise they were affectionately FedWaffen.

(Extra points for the funny accents!)
(Of course! Also there is the splinter from the first division over Denton's leadership and the O9A active!)
Atomwaffen Division may be "Disbanded" or "Renamed to NSO" but they live on in their lack of true disbanding.
Just as an illusionist tells you the rabbit has disappeared.