Opinion West Point graduates submit "anti-racism" proposal to West Point administration



We have to start beating back this lie’: Critics slam ‘unlearn racism’ proposal of West Point black cadets
July 11, 2020 | Vivek Saxena | Print Article

The U.S. Military Academy, known colloquially as West Point, has become mired in racial politics again thanks to a radical proposal by nine recent graduates.

Predicated on the belief that West Point is tainted with so-called “systemic racism,” the proposal calls for a slew of radical policies that have virtually nothing to do with military preparedness and would be better suited at Safe Space College.

The policies would, among other things, force cadets to “unlearn racism,” redo all courses so “the inclusion of Black, Latinx and other marginalized people” is achieved, establish “an independent anti-racism advisory committee” and “invest in spaces that protect and nurture Black Cadets’ identities.”
View the full proposal below:

The recent graduates who penned the proposal claim it’s necessary because they were allegedly called racial slurs during their time at the academy.
Speaking Friday evening on Fox News’ “Fox News @ Night,” military analyst Johnny “Joey” Jones and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute both expressed shock, dismay and disgust at the news that West Point has, thanks to the proposal, now reportedly begun a “comprehensive review of all matters involving race.”

According to Jones, West Point cadets should be learning about the “fundamentals of leadership” and “war,” not being indoctrinated with racial nonsense.
“If West Point becomes the next place where the tail wags the dog, we’ve not only lost our cultural war, we might have lost the next war we have to fight, because these are distractions. By all means, West Point should be a place of equality and fairness and learning, but it should not be a place for the Black Lives Matter manifesto,” he said.

The proposal does indeed mirror the radical propaganda spewed by BLM.

In response to Jones’ remarks, host Shannon Bream turned her attention to Mac Donald and confronted her with the cadets’ claim that they’d been called racial slurs.

“It sounds like they’ve got some legitimate concerns,” she said.

Mac Donald disagreed.

“Well, I’m not certain about that, Shannon. I’d like to know the context. These cadets are hazing each other all the time,” she replied.
Trash-talking and hazing do appear to be commonplace among male members of military academies. In fact, President Donald Trump reportedly experienced it himself during his stay at the New York Military Academy way back in 1964.

“The fact of the matter is that there’s no institutional racism in the military or at West Point. You are likely to get promoted at an accelerated rate if you’re a person of color. The military is absolutely determined to bring as many people of color into its higher ranks as possible,” Mac Donald added.
This may be true. In a report last year, the Associated Press attributed West Point’s graduation of a “record number of black female cadets” to “concerted efforts to diversify West Point’s Long Gray Line.”

And according to a piece from The Wall Street Journal’s then-executive Washington editor Albert R. Hunt published in 2003, affirmative action “began at the service academies in the 70s due to political pressure and a critical need to provide more diverse leaders in America’s military.”
Moreover, just last month Defense Secretary Mark Esper unveiled three new initiatives designed to expand so-called racial “diversity.”
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These are the facts.

“So I agree with Mr. Jones, this is a vision that’s determined by an ideology rather than the facts. West Point is like every mainstream institution today, which is trying as hard as it possibly can to hire and promote as many underrepresented minorities as possible,” Mac Donald continued.

“We have to start beating back this lie that there is systemic racism in this country because that’s simply not the case. But as long as that remains the dominant narrative, the left wins, and it is undoing meritocratic standards in every institution we’ve got.”

That is also true. The misguided notion of “diversity” is being used to gut meritocracy and replace it with a system where people are accepted into college, chosen for grants or hired based not on merit but rather on immutable traits such as race.

For some inexplicable reason, members of the contemporary left have argued that focusing on immutable traits versus merit will lead to more racial equality and harmony. The facts strongly suggest otherwise.

Like even The New Republic, a far-left magazine, admitted in 2013, “Race-Based Affirmative Action Makes Things Worse, Not Better.”

“[T]he evidence shows that racial preferences make things worse, not better, by setting up many of our best black and Hispanic students for academic frustration, by neglecting our most promising working-class and low-income students, and by papering over the real problem,” the outlet reported.
Yet this is what the left and their beloved Black Lives Matter cult and religion want for society …

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Have no idea why we even need military academies any more. Officers who come through Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) and Officer Candidate School/Officer Training School are far more well-rounded and generally far more flexible compared to the vast majority of academy grads. Get rid of the academies, put that money into more ROTC scholarships.

If you are going to have military academies, then prepare the cadets to lead. Prepare them to be warfighters, not politically correct social workers. Guess what? If you treat people with courtesy and respect, you don't need to do much more. Treating people with courtesy and respect encompasses everyone, regardless of race, color, sex, religion, age, etc. Always worked for me as a leader/commander. Not rocket science. Don't need some 40-page "proposal", either.

Garbage like this is why we would be in major trouble very quickly should we ever fight a world-class power that has their shit together.
 
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So, uh quick question how many years before other countries catch news of the types of bitches our military higher ups are?

Believe they already know. They have the same access to American media as anyone else.

I served with good black officers and bad black officers. I served with good white officers and bad white officers. Had black, white, and Asian ethnic officers working for me, at different times. My only benchmark was job performance. As long as you did your job well, and met uniform and appearance standards, you were just fine with me. That's all I asked, and I never ask more of anyone else than I do myself.

Will reiterate something that should be common sense but is not. It is very easy to lead people. The people want to do a good job. Take care of the people, and the people will take care of the mission. The people you lead want to know what's to be done, by when, and under what conditions. The leader runs interference for the people, asks/answers questions, and provides outside support/equipment/supplies as needed. The leader treats everyone with courtesy, respect, and in an equitable manner.

Treating those entrusted to your care properly is the lazy person's key to leadership. Folks know what's to be done, and by when? Do they have what they need to do the job? If so, have at it, keep me apprised of progress/task completion, let me know if you need anything, will come by later to see how things are going. They start on the task, you can go work other issues, especially your boss' issues. Address any problems you need to handle by exception - you've already empowered and expected the people to take care of everything they can on your level. It isn't uncommon to find your people have done the job quicker and/or better than you ever expected. Then you recognize your people for their fine work. Give THEM the credit when talking with upper echelons. Increases motivation for the next thing coming down the pike. A good circle, as opposed to a vicious circle.

The worst bosses I ever had put in a lot of time at work. Fucking with people takes time. Then you have to do your own job. Gotta stay late, come in on weekends. Rarely happened to me when in a leadership/command job, and that was due to emergencies.

I have a problem with the cadet who said someone called him a nigger, he reported it to his tactical officer (a lieutenant or captain), and they did nothing about it. Bullshit. That officer would have investigated the matter and taken/recommended action. I would have done it, years ago. Never had such an incident occur, and I served in a number of units, in the USA and overseas. The general theme of equal treatment and respect for each other has been hammered into the military for at least forty-five years that I know of.
 
Holy shit if this thin skinned bitch had to go to therapy just from being at West Point then he/she/it should have called Mommy for airfare to go back home. We don't want officers that are this fragile and mentally cucked to command soldiers and execute orders.
Like you ever had the bravery to stand up to institutional racism in the american army. Courage comes in different shapes and sizes.
 
Looks like the Soviets if Yuri was right have succeeded in their attempts to destroy America. Or Corporate America is too short sighted and dumb along with the neoliberals to support all this shit.
 
Like you ever had the bravery to stand up to institutional racism in the american army. Courage comes in different shapes and sizes.


Uh, when did you serve? How do you know there is institutional racism in the US military? There are racist people in the military, like anywhere you go, but institutionally, I don't think so. If you can get the job done you can progress, no matter what color you are. Ask Colin Powell, Ask Chappie James. Ask the new USAF Chief of Staff, General C.Q. Brown. All these men were/wore four stars. Have seen female black generals. No matter what a person's color, we all bleed red. As a group, military members know that.
 
I loathe west pointers. They are generally the type from this document, from everything I've seen. They come from wealthy, artificially diverse households, wanted for little in their life, and have never been told no, never experienced hardship.
Somehow they've got all the pride and arrogance of a thirty year army veteran, with none of the mettle, the skill, the experience, or the capability. I had one try to tell the rest of the class how to shoot and he damn near busted his hand by wrapping his left thumb over the back of the slide on the 1911 as if he were shooting revolvers. Kid was bragging about his west point experience and how he "knows firearms" but for some reason had never held a damn pistol. Even after being shown by the people next to him, he kept saying his method was "what they teach at west point, you obviously wouldn't see it."

The general theme of equal treatment and respect for each other has been hammered into the military for at least forty-five years that I know of.
Well duh, now you know your problem. Equality is too old-fashioned, now we need to artificially lift up people who's fourth gen ancestors got shit on in order to karmically equal the system out. Just accept that it's your races' turn to bear the brunt of a pogrom for a few decades, then we can forget the injustices of the past and get along in harmony.
 
“invest in spaces that protect and nurture Black Cadets’ identities.”

Will they invest in spaces that protect and nurture White Cadets' identities too?

Are they going to segregate troops by race over seas?

What exactly is their endgame here?
 
Uh, when did you serve? How do you know there is institutional racism in the US military? There are racist people in the military, like anywhere you go, but institutionally, I don't think so. If you can get the job done you can progress, no matter what color you are. Ask Colin Powell, Ask Chappie James. Ask the new USAF Chief of Staff, General C.Q. Brown. All these men were/wore four stars. Have seen female black generals. No matter what a person's color, we all bleed red. As a group, military members know that.

He's making a joke. I didn't really care for few people I have met that graduated from West Point. A lot of the conversations I've had with them end up being similar to ones with wealthy liberals, out of touch with issues facing normal people. I don't know if it's just because of the exclusivity of the academy or the groups of people greasing the right palms to send their kids there, but damn if those guys didn't come off as trust fund kids with a uniform. I won't shit on someone who signs their agency away to the federal government; that's not something I would do, but I think that you have to be very privileged to attend an institution like that. These are the demands of a spoiled child.
 
Uh, when did you serve? How do you know there is institutional racism in the US military? There are racist people in the military, like anywhere you go, but institutionally, I don't think so. If you can get the job done you can progress, no matter what color you are. Ask Colin Powell, Ask Chappie James. Ask the new USAF Chief of Staff, General C.Q. Brown. All these men were/wore four stars. Have seen female black generals. No matter what a person's color, we all bleed red. As a group, military members know that.

He's trolling. He doesn't even read half of the stuff he posts.
 
Here's the thing about racism and the military. If you dehumanize the enemy, you'll sleep better at night after killing them for a few weeks. If you get used to being insulted on the parade ground, you won't be an sobbing bitch on the battlefield.

In other words, the same lesson we're re-learning in the West when it comes to child-rearing: resiliency can be cultivated, and so can fragility, and you're actually hurting people by cultivating fragility in them.
 
I loathe west pointers. They are generally the type from this document, from everything I've seen. They come from wealthy, artificially diverse households, wanted for little in their life, and have never been told no, never experienced hardship.
Somehow they've got all the pride and arrogance of a thirty year army veteran, with none of the mettle, the skill, the experience, or the capability. I had one try to tell the rest of the class how to shoot and he damn near busted his hand by wrapping his left thumb over the back of the slide on the 1911 as if he were shooting revolvers. Kid was bragging about his west point experience and how he "knows firearms" but for some reason had never held a damn pistol. Even after being shown by the people next to him, he kept saying his method was "what they teach at west point, you obviously wouldn't see it."
I was thinking of that goofy trust fund communist who almost blew up his platoon with an AT4

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He's trolling. He doesn't even read half of the stuff he posts.
Don't we all?
I was thinking of that goofy trust fund communist who almost blew up his platoon with an AT4

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What ever happened to Rapone? Seems like he'd be in the vanguard of this year's Antifag riots.
 
Don't we all?

What ever happened to Rapone? Seems like he'd be in the vanguard of this year's Antifag riots.

He's probably living under a bridge, doing handjobs for crack. Big man, big talk, no action.

I wasn't impressed by the second lieutenants I saw coming from the academy. As a group, they didn't seem as flexible as ROTC/OTS grads - in a job where you'd better be able to think on your feet. Happily, we didn't get that many.

By the time an officer makes captain/full lieutenant (O-3), you generally can't tell how someone was commissioned. Those who don't like the service get out once their obligation has been served. That first four or five years tends to be a great leveler among lieutenants. They do the same sorts of lieutenant things (lots of additional duties and "special projects"), make the same sorts of lieutenant mistakes, generally learn how to play well with others. Still going to have assholes but at least you know or find out who they are.

To be sure, not all who attend military academies are affluent. Know the son of my wife's minister. He attends a military academy. They aren't rich by any means. Gonna have cadets from poverty-stricken backgrounds. Keep in mind that every member of Congress can nominate X number of people to the military academies. Whether you despise AOC, Omar, Tlaib, and Pressley, and I do, would bet each of these people made all the academy nominations they were allotted. Would bet most, if not all of their academy nominations came from less-than-affluent backgrounds. Would also bet most, if not all of their academy nominations were people of color, in an effort to add diversity to the academy's corps of cadets.

Here's AOC's nomination process.
https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/services/service-academy-nominations

Omar's nomination process.

Tlaib's nomination process.

Pressly's nomination process.


Interestingly, when you look at these women's nomination selection processes, they don't go off into a bunch of political rhetoric. Language is businesslike, likely taken from a style guide.


Nevertheless, believe the time of the military academy is long past, and the money can be spent on increasing ROTC scholarships. Would go further.
 
*Laughs in Russian*

With the US army and the sciences getting SJW-d this hard, the situation is worse than I expected.

An army needs personnel and equipment. Equipment is made by scientists and engineers. Now think of diversity female stem hires who do not want to design missiles because they are too phallic. Sounds clown world now, but maybe not in 2025.
 
Remember all the black female graduates doing the black power fist? If there was systematic racism, that would've been dealt with, not celebrated.

The only statement I want to see from West Point's white leadership is "Charlie/Hajji doesn't give a fuck what color you are, he'll kill you because you're not with him. Now scrub the fucking floors nigger."
 
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I'm pretty sure that in a profession that requires team effort to accomplish tasks that very directly implicate national security and pose a litany of mortal dangers to said teams, racism is already not tolerated as an undermining factor to team unity.

Sounds clown world now, but

Our morning rooster calls are bike horns. Send help.
 
He's probably living under a bridge, doing handjobs for crack. Big man, big talk, no action.

I wasn't impressed by the second lieutenants I saw coming from the academy. As a group, they didn't seem as flexible as ROTC/OTS grads - in a job where you'd better be able to think on your feet. Happily, we didn't get that many.

By the time an officer makes captain/full lieutenant (O-3), you generally can't tell how someone was commissioned. Those who don't like the service get out once their obligation has been served. That first four or five years tends to be a great leveler among lieutenants. They do the same sorts of lieutenant things (lots of additional duties and "special projects"), make the same sorts of lieutenant mistakes, generally learn how to play well with others. Still going to have assholes but at least you know or find out who they are.

To be sure, not all who attend military academies are affluent. Know the son of my wife's minister. He attends a military academy. They aren't rich by any means. Gonna have cadets from poverty-stricken backgrounds. Keep in mind that every member of Congress can nominate X number of people to the military academies. Whether you despise AOC, Omar, Tlaib, and Pressley, and I do, would bet each of these people made all the academy nominations they were allotted. Would bet most, if not all of their academy nominations came from less-than-affluent backgrounds. Would also bet most, if not all of their academy nominations were people of color, in an effort to add diversity to the academy's corps of cadets.

Here's AOC's nomination process.
https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/services/service-academy-nominations

Omar's nomination process.

Tlaib's nomination process.

Pressly's nomination process.


Interestingly, when you look at these women's nomination selection processes, they don't go off into a bunch of political rhetoric. Language is businesslike, likely taken from a style guide.


Nevertheless, believe the time of the military academy is long past, and the money can be spent on increasing ROTC scholarships. Would go further.
Hey thanks for the response, I appreciate the actual insight. I won't pretend to know anything about the selection process, thanks for the info
 
The playbook never fucking changes. All it takes is a hand full of these loons to get in and make enough noise via fabricated or exaggerated incidents to get gullible people in charge to panic and allow the crazies to take over. Entryism 101.
 
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