I don't know what to say 06/04/20 - "not at the beginning stage"

[Maxliam]

I really don't understand the general reaction-- both on the farms and ~*haydur nation*~ on YouTube-- to ALR's diagnosis. I've read every page of this thread if only because I wanted to see how everyone would respond. I've also seen several reaction channels on YT say that they will no longer be reacting to ALR because, evidently, her cancer diagnosis makes her immune to criticism.

I certainly wasn't hoping for ALR to die, and I don't make it a point to wish death upon anyone, regardless of how awful they are. But... am I wrong in saying that we, essentially, were laughing and rolling our eyes at her eating herself to death? Having cancer is just as much of a death sentence as weighing 600lbs is, no? If we didn't pity her for being a fatass, why should we pity her for having cancer that was almost certainly self-inflicted? She had the time and the financial means to go to the doctor; she demonstrated some level of self awareness in her videos, frequently stating that she knew she had to see relevant medical professionals; and she also said, ad nauseam, that she was at risk for so many health issues. Despite all of this, she did absolutely nothing.

Now, I understand that I might be in the minority here, but I do concede that ALR clearly has an eating disorder. I refuse to believe that any sane fucking person would eat themselves to such a grotesque and inhuman size. But if you have an ED, then go to the fucking doctor to address both that and the consequences of your ED. ALR and her loved ones were clearly aware of the medical inevitabilities, but she also had literal thousands of people on the internet all but begging her to go to the fucking doctor.

Now she faces the consequences of her actions and she's getting ass-pats? Come the fuck on. If she had made a legitimate effort to do anything about her health one time in her life, maybe I would feel pity, but alas, here we are. This was avoidable. This was preventable. I won't PL, but trust me: at her size, she should have been getting endometrial biopsies every 2-ish years, and if possible, transvaginal ultrasounds. At the very least she should have been going to the gyno. She's hopeless. I don't want her to die, but I don't feel particularly sorry for her.

I am welcome to anyone suggesting that I should offer her more kindness-- I just genuinely don't understand.

Her eating disorder is she's a lazy fat ass in the richest country in the world and doesn't know when to put the fork down. Just like hoarding (which she is guilty of) this is a first world problem.

I don't know if I can feel pity for someone who ate their way to cancer. It's like someone who smokes 2 packs a day and then cries when they have lung cancer. You knew damn well that it wasn't good for you. Instead of taking personal responsibility for your fuck ups or your own health, now you want people to crowdfund your mistake.

I know this is fucked up but she made her bed, it's time for her to climb in.

Nope. Believe it or not, she's still 29. Her birthday is December 27. Wonder if she'll make it?

Good god....I thought she was in her late 30's at the youngest. I doubt she'll make it to 35 much less 40 at this point.

 

[Situation Type Deal Gorl]

I really don't understand the general reaction-- both on the farms and ~*haydur nation*~ on YouTube-- to ALR's diagnosis.

You and me bolth, dudegorl. You and me bolth.

I am welcome to anyone suggesting that I should offer her more kindness-- I just genuinely don't understand.

I don't understand, either. In fact, if anything, she should be encouraging reaction channels to continue, because they do funnel some traffic (and thus engagement) toward her channel. You can see the same people connecting under reaction channels as on hers. The more people talking about her, the better, both for her channel and for her narcissism.

What I'm hoping is that if (IF) she has cancer, and she's given specific orders from the docs that she does the same thing she always does with such orders: ignore them. That might get people snipping at her again for thinking she knows best.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Chemo will slim her down. Probably.

 

[Maxliam]

You and me bolth, dudegorl. You and me bolth.




I don't understand, either. In fact, if anything, she should be encouraging reaction channels to continue, because they do funnel some traffic (and thus engagement) toward her channel. You can see the same people connecting under reaction channels as on hers. The more people talking about her, the better, both for her channel and for her narcissism.

What I'm hoping is that if (IF) she has cancer, and she's given specific orders from the docs that she does the same thing she always does with such orders: ignore them. That might get people snipping at her again for thinking she knows best.

She gonna die and they gonna have to bury her lard ass in a piano box.

Chemo will slim her down. Probably.

Yeah and she'll promptly eat her way back to her fighting weight like the tard champ that she is.

 

[Twinkie]

I don't understand, either. In fact, if anything, she should be encouraging reaction channels to continue, because they do funnel some traffic (and thus engagement) toward her channel.

I haven't witnessed this myself (sorry, will look into it) but someone said she's baiting Michael Be Petty to react to her. And the reason for that would be obvious, she knows that if he uploads, it will in turn get HER more views.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

I don't much follow Amber but I've vaguely followed this thread. I think in her case her weight actually puts her at a very high risk of dying on the table if she needs any kind of intense surgery. There's a reason a lot of medical procedures have the doctor telling an overweight patient to lose weight before they'll do it.

Just imagine how much fat they'd have to cut through. Gag. Unless they have a way to yank her uterus out her vagina.

To do the hysterectomy through the vagina, the uterus can't be enlarged. If tumors/fibroids/other things have enlarged it, they do a horizontal cut above the pubic area and take it out through there. I also do not know what considerations might additionally apply to superfats.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

She gonna die and they gonna have to bury her lard ass in a piano box.


Yeah and she'll promptly eat her way back to her fighting weight like the tard champ that she is.

That or she'll eat the way she does now on chemo and will croak. I feel bad for the people who will have to either lift her casket or heave her into a furnace. She probably has enough fat to power a small city if it's burnt.

 

[Maxliam]

That or she'll eat the way she does now on chemo and will croak. I feel bad for the people who will have to either lift her casket or heave her into a furnace. She probably has enough fat to power a small city if it's burnt.

Maybe they'll just do what they did in Gilbert Grape and burn the whole house down. That way she won't be a punch line, Arnie.

 

[murgatroid]

There's a reason you don't ever see elderly morbidly obese people...

 

[Professor Dr Mao]

Total bruh moment

 

[LargeChoonger]

Played the game, got the prize

 

[Maxliam]

Played the game, got the prize

Is this like a fatty Highlander? There can only be one....who weighs a ton?

 

[Spicy Noodles]

I really don't understand the general reaction-- both on the farms and ~*haydur nation*~ on YouTube-- to ALR's diagnosis. I've read every page of this thread if only because I wanted to see how everyone would respond. I've also seen several reaction channels on YT say that they will no longer be reacting to ALR because, evidently, her cancer diagnosis makes her immune to criticism.

I certainly wasn't hoping for ALR to die, and I don't make it a point to wish death upon anyone, regardless of how awful they are. But... am I wrong in saying that we, essentially, were laughing and rolling our eyes at her eating herself to death? Having cancer is just as much of a death sentence as weighing 600lbs is, no? If we didn't pity her for being a fatass, why should we pity her for having cancer that was almost certainly self-inflicted? She had the time and the financial means to go to the doctor; she demonstrated some level of self awareness in her videos, frequently stating that she knew she had to see relevant medical professionals; and she also said, ad nauseam, that she was at risk for so many health issues. Despite all of this, she did absolutely nothing.

Now, I understand that I might be in the minority here, but I do concede that ALR clearly has an eating disorder. I refuse to believe that any sane fucking person would eat themselves to such a grotesque and inhuman size. But if you have an ED, then go to the fucking doctor to address both that and the consequences of your ED. ALR and her loved ones were clearly aware of the medical inevitabilities, but she also had literal thousands of people on the internet all but begging her to go to the fucking doctor.

Now she faces the consequences of her actions and she's getting ass-pats? Come the fuck on. If she had made a legitimate effort to do anything about her health one time in her life, maybe I would feel pity, but alas, here we are. This was avoidable. This was preventable. I won't PL, but trust me: at her size, she should have been getting endometrial biopsies every 2-ish years, and if possible, transvaginal ultrasounds. At the very least she should have been going to the gyno. She's hopeless. I don't want her to die, but I don't feel particularly sorry for her.

I am welcome to anyone suggesting that I should offer her more kindness-- I just genuinely don't understand.

Most people aren't monsters. There's laughing at a dumb cow mooing in pleasure over her nasty food, "frying" tube meat in water, and schooling us on hulthy eateen - and then there's witnessing said cow breaking down publicly as she faces what could be her own death. I think a lot of people, even the most callous assholes, would feel a tug on their heartstrings when someone is panicking and sobbing over a cancer diagnosis. Watching her cry for her mom and struggle to get words out even made me feel something for a second.

But yeah, I agree with you. I don't wish death on her, but that's as far as my sympathy goes. She did this to herself, and she did it all while gleefully turning herself into an online freak show so she wouldn't have to lift a finger to get even a crappy minimum wage job. She did this to herself while being a smug bitch and acting like she's sooo much smarter than the various doctors she's seen and every commenter who tried to tell her to get help. Some health crisis was coming and it was only ever a matter of time. Did she expect otherwise? It could have been a severe stroke that paralyzed half of her horse-sized body. Could have been a more merciful heart attack where her thumb butler and the gays have to find her dead and rotting in a pile of her own expelled feces. Could have been losing a foot to the 'beetus. Maggots in her folds, rotting flesh, bed sores. This is the reality of being the size of a fucking car. You can't live like that and expect a pain and struggle free life. Shit has consequences.

 

[Maxliam]

Most people aren't monsters. There's laughing at a dumb cow mooing in pleasure over her nasty food, "frying" tube meat in water, and schooling us on hulthy eateen - and then there's witnessing said cow breaking down publicly as she faces what could be her own death. I think a lot of people, even the most callous assholes, would feel a tug on their heartstrings when someone is panicking and sobbing over a cancer diagnosis. Watching her cry for her mom and struggle to get words out even made me feel something for a second.

But yeah, I agree with you. I don't wish death on her, but that's as far as my sympathy goes. She did this to herself, and she did it all while gleefully turning herself into an online freak show so she wouldn't have to lift a finger to get even a crappy minimum wage job. She did this to herself while being a smug bitch and acting like she's sooo much smarter than the various doctors she's seen and every commenter who tried to tell her to get help. Some health crisis was coming and it was only ever a matter of time. Did she expect otherwise? It could have been a severe stroke that paralyzed half of her horse-sized body. Could have been a more merciful heart attack where her thumb butler and the gays have to find her dead and rotting in a pile of her own expelled feces. Could have been losing a foot to the 'beetus. Maggots in her folds, rotting flesh, bed sores. This is the reality of being the size of a fucking car. You can't live like that and expect a pain and struggle free life. Shit has consequences.

I can't really feel any pity for her. She lectured us on and on about her "struggles" when in reality she has had a pretty easy life compared to people who have suffered some real shit and don't make fools of themselves online for the world to see. Fatty keeps stuffing her face even after it being basically spelled out for her that is why she's on the C-train to her final resting place. I'd say they should bury her at sea but then again where else would you put a whale like that?

 

[Disco Inferno]

I had a loved one who had cancer. Saying 'I wouldn't wish cancer on anybody' is an understatement.
The chemo turned them into a living corpse. They went from 77 kg to 65 kg.
They were frail and weak and constantly crying in pain. Watching this in real time was traumatizing.
To make it worse, it took them almost a year to become 'normal'.
Only saving grace is that my country has universal care. I can only imagine what she'll have to pay afterwards.

Not to be morbid, but are funeral cost expensive in america?

EDIT: forgot to ask. If she where to die, would her next of kin have to pay the medical bill?

 

[Maxliam]

I had a loved one who had cancer. Saying 'I wouldn't wish cancer on anybody' is an understatement.
The chemo turned them into a living corpse. They went from 77 kg to 65 kg.
They were frail and weak and constantly crying in pain. Watching this in real time was traumatizing.
To make it worse, it took them almost a year to become 'normal'.
Only saving grace is that my country has universal care. I can only imagine what she'll have to pay afterwards.

Not to be morbid, but are funeral cost expensive in america?

Yes, and it's a really fucked up industry that preys upon people when they are most vulnerable...like Disney or stripclubs. Me, I already plan on donating my organs and then I told my family to cremate me on the cheap and then shoot my cremains out of a cannon. My family was like "What cannon?" and I was like "Don't worry, when the time comes, I'll have that black powder cannon I've always wanted."

A lot of people get exploited into buying an overpriced casket and headstone for what? So your body can rot under a ton or two of dirt and get eaten up by worms? Just skip that bullshit, get cremated, have a service on the cheap, and not burden your family with something so vain as an elaborate funeral that doesn't do anything but cost a ton.

Holy shit, my nephew was right....we're pretty much Jewish.

 

[Pikonic]

Stage 2 uterine cancer isn’t the worst cancer. The cancer hasn’t left her uterus and cervix. The cancer probably hasn’t spread to her lymph nodes and other organs. Her 5 year survival rate is in the 60s. Overall, it’s not a breeze to beat, but it’s not a death sentence like pancreatic or lung cancer.

However, she’s most likely going to need a hysterectomy, maybe radiation treatment. Her weight might be an issue, I don’t know.

 

[dingobaby]

Stage 2 uterine cancer isn’t the worst cancer. The cancer hasn’t left her uterus and cervix. The cancer probably hasn’t spread to her lymph nodes and other organs. Her 5 year survival rate is in the 60s. Overall, it’s not a breeze to beat, but it’s not a death sentence like pancreatic or lung cancer.

However, she’s most likely going to need a hysterectomy, maybe radiation treatment. Her weight might be an issue, I don’t know.

The surgery will be the relatively easy part, in healing she will be bedboud, immobile, prone to sepsis and all other horrible shit that is likely to go wrong.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

Most people aren't monsters. There's laughing at a dumb cow mooing in pleasure over her nasty food, "frying" tube meat in water, and schooling us on hulthy eateen - and then there's witnessing said cow breaking down publicly as she faces what could be her own death. I think a lot of people, even the most callous assholes, would feel a tug on their heartstrings when someone is panicking and sobbing over a cancer diagnosis. Watching her cry for her mom and struggle to get words out even made me feel something for a second.

But yeah, I agree with you. I don't wish death on her, but that's as far as my sympathy goes. She did this to herself, and she did it all while gleefully turning herself into an online freak show so she wouldn't have to lift a finger to get even a crappy minimum wage job. She did this to herself while being a smug bitch and acting like she's sooo much smarter than the various doctors she's seen and every commenter who tried to tell her to get help. Some health crisis was coming and it was only ever a matter of time. Did she expect otherwise? It could have been a severe stroke that paralyzed half of her horse-sized body. Could have been a more merciful heart attack where her thumb butler and the gays have to find her dead and rotting in a pile of her own expelled feces. Could have been losing a foot to the 'beetus. Maggots in her folds, rotting flesh, bed sores. This is the reality of being the size of a fucking car. You can't live like that and expect a pain and struggle free life. Shit has consequences.

Yeah. The thought is, "God fucking dammit, we TOLD you for years." But, not being a psychopath, I still find this pathetic and horrible. Amber is a dumb ass, an addict, and in deep denial. If it was some rapist or pedophile with cancer, I'd be dancing around in glee, but not this, man. Not this. Blargh.

 

[repentance]

Stage 2 uterine cancer isn’t the worst cancer. The cancer hasn’t left her uterus and cervix. The cancer probably hasn’t spread to her lymph nodes and other organs. Her 5 year survival rate is in the 60s. Overall, it’s not a breeze to beat, but it’s not a death sentence like pancreatic or lung cancer.

However, she’s most likely going to need a hysterectomy, maybe radiation treatment. Her weight might be an issue, I don’t know.

She could require anything from just surgery to extensive surgery plus chemotherapy plus internal and external radiotherapy depending on the exact type of cancer and how advanced it is, and she's not going to know that without further investigation.

I doubt AL can even afford the investigations. Becky Gerber had a LEEP, which is about as minimal as it gets and it still cost her several thousand dollars despite having insurance.