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I don’t understand why they think trooning out will get them laid.
Of course I also don’t understand when attractive straight men troon out, but they exist.
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Of course I also don’t understand when attractive straight men troon out, but they exist.
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ftms are so fucking grotesque and just absolutely disgusting, everything about their transition is fucking horrifying, gigantic scars, oversized clit, flesh dick, and the fact that they can get pregnant too is the cherry on top.
This is PEAK inferiority complex, trying to make up for the fact that they will never be women.
Real women don't live for male validation, this doesn't phase them, and the point of this tweet is so obvious, they're jealous that no one wants to fuck them, so they try to validate themselves by spreading the most retarded shit ever like this. This never happens. I'm pretty sure when it comes down to it, any straight man would gag at a tranny, and if there weren't any real women around they'd just a fuck a man not a gross mutilated fake woman.
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I have no idea either. I assume it's either the same mentality that results in men simping (if I suck your metaphorical dick enough you'll jump on mine), or some weird psychological form of sexual mimicry. Quoth the wiki:
Sounds familiar? Basically, can't fit among men? Go become a woman.
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The tranny you described is sort of the equivalent of me saying "this guy walks around in a costume pretending to be a wolf but he's wolf-like, real nice with me and he's trying to live like a normal person."
No matter how nice you think the tranny is, he will be far from normal because normality isn't thinking you're a woman in a man's body.
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would you rather they try to act like actual women or do you want them to talk loudly about their massive girlcock and why everyone in the ladies' was giving them looks as they stood up to piss in the toilet with the stall door open
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i'd rather they drop the act entirely and stop playing pretend tbh
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not gonna happen, there's no "treatment" for gender dysphoria besides transitioning, that's the best the psychiatric community was able to decide on even in the 70s before homosexuality was taken out of the DSM
"manning up" clearly isn't something that's going to happen
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Then why not give them more testosterone for men and estrogen for women? Easy, the type of care given to these people is flawed.
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that would literally make the gender dysphoria even worse and would be the opposite of treating it
edit: unless you just want to make them suffer, which I can totally understand this being kiwifarms and all
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Imagine thinking giving them the right hormones to make them feel more like their gender would "worsen their dysphoria".
Also, if you hate Kiwifarms, why are you using it?
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1. if being a male as they are is genuinely psychiatrically dysphoric, giving them testosterone would just prolong their suffering until they inevitably go Uncle Ted
2. existence is suffering
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most of them (mtf) are either perverts trying to force their fetish on their surroundings, or larping trenders trying to climb the progressive stack. the 'dysphoria' card is just a deflection tactics they use to avoid admitting that. being forced to man up and quit the larp is exactly what they need.
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1. Okay, so apparently giving a dehydrated person more water would only make them thirstier. A tranny who's given more hormones to become more masculine will suffer even more? Around 80% of children with untreated "gender dysphoria" grow out of it. Why? Because puberty gives you more hormones that makes you feminine/masculine? Who knew?
2. "haha lol random!"
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that's not the way it works according to adult tranners and psychiatrists, and I'd trust the psychs a lot more in this case, the only thing that actually seems to "work" is accepting Christ in your heart, and even then a lot of them just turn out as "ex ex gays", if you want a bunch of even more masculine looking late in life transitioners that's literally the way you get it
do you want that (probably)
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The troons are mentally ill and are eternally chasing after the next thing- "I just need X and I'll be happy!"
The psychiatrists that push this shit are using bunk "science" with no grounds in reality. They make their tripe up as they go along for the sake of more money and more power. Note that it's the young, trendy, millennial psychs behind it all.
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Alot of those "psychiatrists" are using studies from John Money who's some pedo who "pioneered" that tranny looney in the first place. Trannies should not be loaded up with hormones and then have their genitals be turned inside out. Almost like politics got in the way of treating them.
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Yeah, if someone says that having a penis makes them feel bad we should let them chop it off. Just like if someone says being average weight makes them feel bad so we should let them starve themselves, or if having an arm makes them feel bad we should let them amputate it.
If anything, this thread is an arguement for why transitioning is a terrible treatment for dysphoria. There are countless cases of people being more miserable after transitioning or continuing to be dissatisfied, and a lot of the "gender euphoria" people experience from transitioning seems to be fetishistic at best.
Trannies need therapy, not hormones. Real therapy, not just a yes-man telling them if they like dresses they must really be a girl on the inside. Just look at people like Remillia, who killed himself after realizing he'd never be able to be a real woman despite all the surgery or hormones he got. Or all the female detransitioners who had gender dysphoria induced by their social groups, or by internalized misogyny/homophobia.
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Not all trannies think they're women in men's bodies. People like Blaire White admit they're men and say they are transitioning in an attempt to treat their dysphoria.
I haven't watched many of Blaire's videos but this page gives the impression he's quite sane:
Blaire White - RationalWiki
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That's the key, "most". Not all.
Before transgender became transtrender and therapists risked being mobbed for not caving in to every Tom, Dick and Harry with an undercut and a v-neck shirt and telling them that they're actually girls on the inside, gender dysphoria was an actual specified mental condition that some people -- very few people -- were diagnosed as having.
Like most mental conditions is has no known cure and all treatment is for symptoms rather than the cause. Counseling and therapy were the first line of treatment, and if nothing worked transitioning was the last line of treatment. And by "last" I mean last. Transition was meant to be the hail mary pass to prevent the person from commiting suicide within six months. And even then, it sometimes failed. Sometimes it succeeded, but in those cases you wouldn't know about it because the person would essentially stop being transgender and adopt the same mannerisms, look and habits of the general population. They wouldn't be noticed.
Just because the LGBT movement suddenly became a haven for pervs, predators and autists who were groomed into joining a body-modification cult ran by SJWs, doesn't mean that the people who would formerly be diagnosed with gender dysphoria stopped existing. They're still there, they're usually too embarrassed by the highly visible idiots on twitter to speak up, and even if they weren't they'd rather not out themselves as transgender. After all, the point is to blend in, not to stand out.
So yeah, most transgender folks on twitter? Total troons. How do you know? They put up they're transgender/NB/Apache Attack Helicopter right on their profile description. They're lolcows and they deserve mockery for doing what SJWs always do: appropriating a problem for themselves and hiding behind it like it gives them power. But some people out there, very few people, are genuinely diagnosed and treated as transgender. Usually by older therapists who somehow haven't fallen before social pressure and did their due diligence with it. Those people are sick and not bothering anyone else. We have much easier targets to mock than them.
Namely, the troons complaining that they can't get laid or posting Craigslist "come suk my beautiful girl dicc" ads on Twitter.
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The solution to dysphoria is treating the underlying mental damage that causes the negative emotional response to one's body, not indulging the patient in a deepening of the psychosis.
For someone with weight dysphoria, like an anorexic for example, that involves a lot of talk and cognitive therapy, and likely a course of antianxiety and antidepressants. The eventual aim is to have the patient attain a healthy body and a healthy mindset. It would be a violation of the Hippocratic oath to suggest a restricted calorie diet and elective surgery to reduce weight or give that appearance.
A patient with body identity integrity disorder is an even more extreme example (these poor people want to be disabled, and usually self-amputate limbs). You'd lose your license if you referred them to a surgeon for voluntary amputation of an otherwise healthy limb.
Some type of mild anxiety and confusion is relatively common in adolescents as they undergo puberty. A number of potentially stressful social, emotional, and physical changes are manifesting, after all. The solution is a supportive and safe environment, where they are given the coping tools and outlets for these feelings, as well as positive adult role models of both sexes.
Such treatment results in nearly complete recovery from sex dysphoria by the end of adolescence. (Some 1-2% require continued therapy.)
Compare this with the alternative, proposed treatment of placing the patient on an untested mix of puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and surgery that will, at a minimum sterilize them permanently and also have long term negative effects on bone density, heart health, brain development, just to name a few - while also increasing the risk of cancer and other disorders. The patient will be forced to endure a lifetime of medical and surgical intervention, at great expense and risk. The potential impact seems far out of proportion to the possible benefit.
No ethical health professional could consider the latter a reasonable course of action, but sadly even principles have a price.
For someone with weight dysphoria, like an anorexic for example, that involves a lot of talk and cognitive therapy, and likely a course of antianxiety and antidepressants. The eventual aim is to have the patient attain a healthy body and a healthy mindset. It would be a violation of the Hippocratic oath to suggest a restricted calorie diet and elective surgery to reduce weight or give that appearance.
A patient with body identity integrity disorder is an even more extreme example (these poor people want to be disabled, and usually self-amputate limbs). You'd lose your license if you referred them to a surgeon for voluntary amputation of an otherwise healthy limb.
Some type of mild anxiety and confusion is relatively common in adolescents as they undergo puberty. A number of potentially stressful social, emotional, and physical changes are manifesting, after all. The solution is a supportive and safe environment, where they are given the coping tools and outlets for these feelings, as well as positive adult role models of both sexes.
Such treatment results in nearly complete recovery from sex dysphoria by the end of adolescence. (Some 1-2% require continued therapy.)
Compare this with the alternative, proposed treatment of placing the patient on an untested mix of puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and surgery that will, at a minimum sterilize them permanently and also have long term negative effects on bone density, heart health, brain development, just to name a few - while also increasing the risk of cancer and other disorders. The patient will be forced to endure a lifetime of medical and surgical intervention, at great expense and risk. The potential impact seems far out of proportion to the possible benefit.
No ethical health professional could consider the latter a reasonable course of action, but sadly even principles have a price.
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