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Why does it matter that Jesus has to be referencing something from the Torah? He's the Son of God, I'd probably listen to everything he has to say.4. All words of The Messiah must be shared in context of The Torah (you have to cite where in The Torah he was referencing)
Paul of Tarsus is a false prophet now? That's a new one, love to hear your backwards reasoning on that.That's a Christian Bible. Replete with false prophet Paul of Tarus.
I don't care about the Christian Bible.
But I'm willing to debate this topic according to The Torah.
Let's first agree on the rules of engagement.
1. You can only cite The Torah, The Prophets, The Messiah or relevant DDS documents
2. No Talmud
3. No Paul
4. All words of The Messiah must be shared in context of The Torah (you have to cite where in The Torah he was referencing)
5. The DSS or Samaritan version of The Torah can be used as well as the MT
6. No verse outside of The Torah can hold greater weight than verse of The Torah
7. If you use Hebrew you have to include vowels
Any objections?
She's talked about it before. All it really boils down to is that she took a select few verses from his various letters out of context and interpreted them in the most re.Tarded way possible. Also she thinks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Peter were all forgeries because some complete randos said so 500 years ago.Paul of Tarsus is a false prophet now? That's a new one, love to hear your backwards reasoning on that.
Anyways no, you don't get to set the rules of the debate bc this isn't a debate, I'm informing you of the reality that by having multiple baby daddies you're a big fat hoe (modern translation) according to the Torah. Whether or not you choose to accept reality is not my problem. If it makes you feel better, Marshall is an adulterer too for having multiple children by different women, so you're both two slutty, slutty peas in a pod.
You know a theological theory is sound when you can only find two blogspot posts and one book being sold on Amazon to back it up.She's talked about it before. All it really boils down to is that she took a select few verses from his various letters out of context and interpreted them in the most re.Tarded way possible. Also she thinks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Peter were all forgeries because some complete randos said so 500 years ago.
Paul of Tarsus is a false prophet now? That's a new one, love to hear your backwards reasoning on that.
Anyways no, you don't get to set the rules of the debate bc this isn't a debate, I'm informing you of the reality that by having multiple baby daddies you're a big fat hoe (modern translation) according to the Torah. Whether or not you choose to accept reality is not my problem. If it makes you feel better, Marshall is an adulterer too for having multiple children by different women, so you're both two slutty, slutty peas in a pod.
She's talked about it before. All it really boils down to is that she took a select few verses from his various letters out of context and interpreted them in the most re.Tarded way possible. Also she thinks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Peter were all forgeries because some complete randos said so 500 years ago.
Why does it matter that Jesus has to be referencing something from the Torah? He's the Son of God, I'd probably listen to everything he has to say.
"Let's debate, but don't use any sources or arguments I don't already agree with!" Skank is so insecure and stupid she can't acknowledge anything outside of her backwards hillbilly world view.That's a Christian Bible. Replete with false prophet Paul of Tarus.
I don't care about the Christian Bible.
But I'm willing to debate this topic according to The Torah.
Let's first agree on the rules of engagement.
1. You can only cite The Torah, The Prophets, The Messiah or relevant DDS documents
2. No Talmud
3. No Paul
4. All words of The Messiah must be shared in context of The Torah (you have to cite where in The Torah he was referencing)
5. The DSS or Samaritan version of The Torah can be used as well as the MT
6. No verse outside of The Torah can hold greater weight than verse of The Torah
7. If you use Hebrew you have to include vowels
Any objections?
Linda, let's be realistic here. The only reason you want to 'debate' me on this topic is because you know I'm right, in your heart of hearts, and you're desperately grasping at any chance to rope me into an argument so you can prove me wrong with more high school essays that take simple verses way out of context. If you weren't claiming that you're So Pure and So Holy above all us 'pagans' on the farms, I wouldn't give a shit about your personal life, but you're the one who got yourself into this mess and you're the one who thinks it's perfectly okay and fine in her own religion to move from man to man like a really fucking annoying honeybee. It's not. You can't get out of that, no matter how hard you try, and I relish seeing you squirm and whine when I pin you on that particular sin.I gave you a chance to participate in setting the rules of engagement. And since you've made a moral judgment against me,it IS a debate
In fact, you are already debating
There is nothing new here. The forerunner to exposing Paul started before me. He wrote a book called "Jesus' Words Only". However, I didn't know about his work until AFTER I came to the conclusion myself. I didn't read it because I object to the title. There are others that have reached the same conclusion and post online in various ways. I came to the truth simply by study of the scriptures
There is nothing cherry picked about my research on Paul
your claims about The Torah are false. There is no such concept of "baby daddies" in The Torah. You also show no understanding of sexuality in The Torah
and by your logic you are calling Abraham an adulterer because he had multiple children from Sarah and other concubines he had (he had more children than Isaac and Ishmael)
Jesus is a made up idol the Catholic Church invented
The Messiah was J-e-w-i-sh and taught The Torah. His name wasn't Jesus either. You can't take his words out of context of the elohim he worshipped
you just said though you'd consent to having sex with someone who's demon posessedThat's not having sex with a demon
why don't you go find r he definition if a pagan yourself. You keep on using that word I don't think you know what it means.You are using the name of a pagan elohim and then want to tell me what the definition of "blameless" is?
Pa---lease. Go learn the basics and then you can try to correct others.
Internalised misogyny gets thrown around not just by you but by many people stop thinking it's all about copying youYou are trying to mimic and copy words I'm using like "internalized misogyny"
"""research"""... So no real life experience, no real knowledge, and I doubt you met the billion or so women on this planet. I think your "research" consists of you looking up your cult's websites and believing everything negative you hear, you eat that nonsense up. Maybe you wrote another fail paper on it. But no, your research is nonsense. You don't know anything about the lives of other women. Stop judging others you know nothing about, stop assuming you know what anybody does with their livesbut then you are even using it correctly.
I've done enough research and listening to know that YES, most women have had an abortion and/or cheated on their husbands.
Abortions and cheating (adultery) are worthy of being mentioned as dividers between the righteous and the unrighteous because the scriptures clearly say that adulterers and murderers are the worst of sinners. It has nothing to do with hating women.
I gave you a chance to participate in setting the rules of engagement. And since you've made a moral judgment against me,it IS a debate
In fact, you are already debating
There is nothing new here. The forerunner to exposing Paul started before me. He wrote a book called "Jesus' Words Only". However, I didn't know about his work until AFTER I came to the conclusion myself. I didn't read it because I object to the title. There are others that have reached the same conclusion and post online in various ways. I came to the truth simply by study of the scriptures
There is nothing cherry picked about my research on Paul
your claims about The Torah are false. There is no such concept of "baby daddies" in The Torah. You also show no understanding of sexuality in The Torah
and by your logic you are calling Abraham an adulterer because he had multiple children from Sarah and other concubines he had (he had more children than Isaac and Ishmael)
Jesus is a made up idol the Catholic Church invented
The Messiah was J-e-w-i-sh and taught The Torah. His name wasn't Jesus either. You can't take his words out of context of the elohim he worshipped
"Let's debate, but don't use any sources or arguments I don't already agree with!" Skank is so insecure and stupid she can't acknowledge anything outside of her backwards hillbilly world view.
Linda, let's be realistic here. The only reason you want to 'debate' me on this topic is because you know I'm right, in your heart of hearts, and you're desperately grasping at any chance to rope me into an argument so you can prove me wrong with more high school essays that take simple verses way out of context. If you weren't claiming that you're So Pure and So Holy above all us 'pagans' on the farms, I wouldn't give a shit about your personal life, but you're the one who got yourself into this mess and you're the one who thinks it's perfectly okay and fine in her own religion to move from man to man like a really fucking annoying honeybee. It's not. You can't get out of that, no matter how hard you try, and I relish seeing you squirm and whine when I pin you on that particular sin.
As far as Abraham goes, I'm not qualified to pass judgement on him, but also he fed and clothed his wives and his concubines. The reason Hagar fled was because of a breakdown between Sarai and her. The whole logic behind having multiple wives is that you take care of them, like how Marshall allegedly does for you, and in return your family grows and your wives can lean on each other to run the house, tend the land, raise children etc. Does Marshall feed and clothe his previous wives/girlfriends/concubines/consorts? Does he provide for his other children, if he has any? If he does, does he do it of his own free will, or did a court have to mandate child support? I don't know about you, but Abraham didn't have to pay child support.
There is no debating going on here, just people trying to reason with you or calling you an idiot. Or poking fun at youLast time I heard you were a self identified Christian.
There's nothing insecure about arguig and debating. Do you know that many scholars and Rabbis sit around and study and argue The Torah for hours? It's an actual thing.
By your logic you are calling The Messiah insecure. He walked around arguing The Torah with everyone. You're blind.
My narrowing the scope of sources is completely legitimate. Do you think any Muslim or Orthodox would be agreeing with your Christian Bible either? Get a grip on reality
I know in my heart you are wrong.
Im not talking about Polygyny, which is a sin. Marshall isn't a polygynst. We are a Monogamous couple, and agreed on that from the start.
I'm talking about having children with different people, which was your claim. Abraham did NOT give child support to his illegitimate children of his concubines. It says he cut them off (Ishmael) and sent them away with a one time gift (children of other concubines) (Genesis 25:6). Isaac was the only one who received an inheritance and support ongoing.
The concubines, other than Hagar, were before he married Sarah.
So newslfash: by the standard of Torah Marshall doesn't owe child support to anyone
There is no debating going on here, just people trying to reason with you or calling you an idiot. Or poking fun at you
This isn't a debating forum, this is a forum for examining and making fun of nutcases, aka you
I never said debating was insecure, however not allowing the opposite side to make arguments about that things you already agree with is. If a Muslim or Orthodox were secure in their faith they would have no problem with a Christian using the Bible to debate. They'd look forward to the chance to try and counter it with their holy book, and the knowledge they have over it.time I heard you were a self identified Christian.
There's nothing insecure about arguig and debating. Do you know that many scholars and Rabbis sit around and study and argue The Torah for hours? It's an actual thing.
By your logic you are calling The Messiah insecure. He walked around arguing The Torah with everyone. You're blind.
My narrowing the scope of sources is completely legitimate. Do you think any Muslim or Orthodox would be agreeing with your Christian Bible either? Get a grip on reality
That's a Christian Bible. Replete with false prophet Paul of Tarus.
I don't care about the Christian Bible.
But I'm willing to debate this topic according to The Torah.
Let's first agree on the rules of engagement.
1. You can only cite The Torah, The Prophets, The Messiah or relevant DDS documents
2. No Talmud
3. No Paul
4. All words of The Messiah must be shared in context of The Torah (you have to cite where in The Torah he was referencing)
5. The DSS or Samaritan version of The Torah can be used as well as the MT
6. No verse outside of The Torah can hold greater weight than verse of The Torah
7. If you use Hebrew you have to include vowels
Any objections?
I'm not interested in debating. I would like to get through to you how insane you've become and help you but in all honesty I think I'd have better luck trying to reason with a brick wallSays the person sitting here debating with me over the purpose and pragmatism of this site...
I never said debating was insecure, however not allowing the opposite side to make arguments about that things you already agree with is. If a Muslim or Orthodox were secure in their faith they would have no problem with a Christian using the Bible to debate. They'd look forward to the chance to try and counter it with their holy book, and the knowledge they have over it.
Unlike you who is so totally insecure in your beliefs that you won't accept opposing sources in a debate.
I'm late to this shit but if I recall correctly you used basically no vowel or transliteration in your Sacred Vaginas paper; kinda seems hypocritical not to hold yourself to similar argumentative rules unless you're doing this on a single case basis
You don't want a debate you want a chance to shriek the same stupid points you've been shrieking for 150 pages now.If you can't agree on the sources then there can't be a debate.
Different sources just means one inevitable conclusion: We follow different religions/moral philosophies. There is no way to compare apples and oranges. Im not interested in comparing apples and oranges because it's obvious they aren't the same thing.
If you post a picture of a Bible that includes The Torah, then that's what is to debate: What does The Torah say?
Well, that's on me for not brushing back up on what a subjectively good father Abraham was. However: Genesis 25:6 specifically says Abraham gave gifts to the sons of his concubines after he died*. I'm treading on risky ground here reading into the verse, but one could infer that those gifts were intended to set up his other sons in later life. Meanwhile, there's nothing in the Torah to suggest that Abraham did not take care of his concubines and their children while he was alive. Marshall is also alive, so how's he doing on that topic?Last time I heard you were a self identified Christian.
There's nothing insecure about arguig and debating. Do you know that many scholars and Rabbis sit around and study and argue The Torah for hours? It's an actual thing.
By your logic you are calling The Messiah insecure. He walked around arguing The Torah with everyone. You're blind.
My narrowing the scope of sources is completely legitimate. Do you think any Muslim or Orthodox would be agreeing with your Christian Bible either? Get a grip on reality
I know in my heart you are wrong.
Im not talking about Polygyny, which is a sin. Marshall isn't a polygynst. We are a Monogamous couple, and agreed on that from the start.
I'm talking about having children with different people, which was your claim. Abraham did NOT give child support to his illegitimate children of his concubines. It says he cut them off (Ishmael) and sent them away with a one time gift (children of other concubines) (Genesis 25:6). Isaac was the only one who received an inheritance and support ongoing.
The concubines, other than Hagar, were before he married Sarah.
So newslfash: by the standard of Torah Marshall doesn't owe child support to anyone
@fnaarf What's the matter, you afraid to get roasted...by a woman?![]()