💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Bender]

You can if you can get the dumbass client to talk about it.

I wonder if this has anything to do with Ronald Joseph Toye III (known wife-beater, child-abuser and amnesiac, also Monica Rial's fiancé), deactivating his Twitter account?

 

[TheClappening]

Toye is on anger, but then he is always on anger.

"That's my secret, Counsel, I'm always angry."

 

[Immaculate Ape]

From what I've asked before, they can't be sure. At any moment, Lemonfag can just give them a 100% discount and nobody can stop him. It's his time and money that he's burning, the court can't stop that.

They can however think hes a stupid cunt for wanting Vic to pay those fees.

Someone smarter than me, feel free to correct me when I'm inevitable found wrong and dumb

The most delicious part of that, is he stated on the record while under oath, he will be charging the clients that much.

Chupp already saw that 4D chess move and called him on it

 

[Garm]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Ronald Joseph Toye III (known wife-beater, child-abuser and amnesiac, also Monica Rial's fiancé), deactivating his Twitter account?

This... Is actually a good point.

All the KickVic peons milling about going "Ron, how will you pay your crushing lawsuit debts?"
"Ron, can we set up a GoFundMe to help you and Monica? That ruling was so unfair!"

Each time wheedling Ron's pride. Each time reminding him that some bill probably won't be paid this month. Hell, Ron probably has an Audi car calendar in the kitchen that he stares wistfully at because everyday that goal gets further and further away.

No wonder Ron had to get off Twitter. His supporters probably emasculated Ron as much as Nick does.

 

[Lone Outsider]

"That's my secret, Counsel, I'm always angry."

I've seen people that are angry and then there are people that are truly pissed. Ronni boi may have a temper but people are more angry at him for the shit he's done and with good reason. Anyone that's truly angry don't back down unless there is a serious reason when confronted but people like Ron or MBA (on the killstream with Nick) shut up quickly when someone get's mad back at them.

 

[Bender]

This... Is actually a good point.

I love how you sound so surprised that I made a good point, but you're still not as surprised as me.

 

[Dean Pentel]

I love how you sound so surprised that I made a good point, but you're still not as surprised as me.

Get a room, you two.

Text me the room number when you're both there.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm not sure you can force a lawyer to break an attorney client relationship over whether anybody got paid.

That's not privileged. At least not automatically. And if it were Lemoine already waived that privilege by not asserting it when Chupp asked him about it in court. So a court would be justified on following up if he was committing a fraud on the court as he was awarded fees in part based on that representation.

 

[Bender]

That's not privileged. At least not automatically. And if it were Lemoine already waived that privilege by not asserting it when Chupp asked him about it in court. So a court would be justified on following up if he was committing a fraud on the court as he was awarded fees in part based on that representation.

With that in mind, on a scale of "slightly" to "hilariously", how likely is it that Monica Rial (best known for being formerly engaged to a paedophile) and Ronald Joseph Toye III (known wife-beater, child abuser and amnesiac) would win a malpractice case against Lemwhiney?

Lemoine would present his billing shit as evidence for his defence in that situation, right? What would happen if MoRon said they didn't ask him to do any of those activities? I assume the burden of proof is then thrown to Lemoine?

 

[MadPanda]

All the KickVic peons milling about going "Ron, how will you pay your crushing lawsuit debts?"
"Ron, can we set up a GoFundMe to help you and Monica? That ruling was so unfair!"

There is literally nothing stopping them from doing this right now. Someone at wick phillips has probably researched this by now and can easily coordinate with someone among the kickvic crowd to set this up like vics is. Hell the defense themselves can do it. The only thing stopping them is ron running his mouth about a real man paying his lawsuit and other stupid shit he probably regrets now. Other reason is that they really sincerely think nick is somehow pocketing the money and really cannot understand the setup that went into it.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

There is literally nothing stopping them from doing this right now. Someone at wick phillips has probably researched this by now and can easily coordinate with someone among the kickvic crowd to set this up like vics is. Hell the defense themselves can do it. The only thing stopping them is ron running his mouth about a real man paying his lawsuit and other stupid shit he probably regrets now. Other reason is that they really sincerely think nick is somehow pocketing the money and really cannot understand the setup that went into it.

The thing is, who is actually going to donate? We are not talking February Monica when people were actually worried about her, in the span of 10 months she called homeland security on a good portion of her fanbase and continue being a vindictive lying bitch which ruined all of her credibility and goodwill. She will probably get like a few grand but it will never hit the 5 or 6 figures like vic. Rooster and funi might help but all of her good will is gone.

 

[MadPanda]

The thing is, who is actually going to donate? We are not talking February Monica when people were actually worried about her, in the span of 10 months she called homeland security on a good portion of her fanbase and continue being a vindictive lying bitch which ruined all of her. She will probably get like a few grand but it will never hit the 5 or 6 figures like vic. Rooster and funi might help but all of her good will is gone.

I could see em getting 5k or 10k at least. I mean possible they could get more, but yeah they probably will not reach nearly enough to cover the expenses and right now the expenses keep crawling up. Turns out most people do not like being insulted when asking simple questions or asking about police reports(because seriously those could have really helped them).

 

[TheClappening]

The thing is, who is actually going to donate? We are not talking February Monica when people were actually worried about her, in the span of 10 months she called homeland security on a good portion of her fanbase and continue being a vindictive lying bitch which ruined all of her. She will probably get like a few grand but it will never hit the 5 or 6 figures like vic. Rooster and funi might help but all of her good will is gone.

Somewhere, Vic's $266k GoFundMe rustles several jimmies.

 

[Lone Outsider]

There is literally nothing stopping them from doing this right now. Someone at wick phillips has probably researched this by now and can easily coordinate with someone among the kickvic crowd to set this up like vics is. Hell the defense themselves can do it. The only thing stopping them is ron running his mouth about a real man paying his lawsuit and other stupid shit he probably regrets now. Other reason is that they really sincerely think nick is somehow pocketing the money and really cannot understand the setup that went into it.

They really don't understand that one: it doesn't go to Nick. and two, even if Nick is a Grifting Crypto Jew and scams them out of money, he's gonna be so fucked by all sides that he's gonna feel violated for the rest of his life if he even thinks it.

The thing is, who is actually going to donate? We are not talking February Monica when people were actually worried about her, in the span of 10 months she called homeland security on a good portion of her fanbase and continue being a vindictive lying bitch which ruined all of her. She will probably get like a few grand but it will never hit the 5 or 6 figures like vic. Rooster and funi might help but all of her good will is gone.

Look at marzgurls little grift. She got $4,418 and the last Donation was 5 months ago. I don't think that Monica would even get a enough money to save her and Ron's ass.

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www.gofundme.com

 

[TardBows]

I could see em getting 5k or 10k at least. I mean possible they could get more, but yeah they probably will not reach nearly enough to cover the expenses and right now the expenses keep crawling up. Turns out most people do not like being insulted when asking simple questions or asking about police reports(because seriously those could have really helped them).

Doesn't help when they are full of absolute shit, and most people also don't like being lied to. Pretty much all the goodwill is gone when they decide to lie about Vic.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Look at marzgurls little grift. She got $4,418 and the last Donation was 5 months ago. I don't think that Monica would even get a enough money to save her and Ron's ass.

Click here to support Help with legal fees organized by Kaylyn Dalene Saucedo

Kaylyn Dalene Saucedo Help with legal fees Hello, everyone. My name is Kaylyn Saucedo. I have been creating online content for more than a decade and have be

www.gofundme.com

I'm surprised her gofundme isn't reported for fraud. There's no way in hell that money was spent on legal fees, didn't she use that money on a cat who died?

 

[MadPanda]

I'm surprised her gofundme isn't reported for fraud. There's no way in hell that money was spent on legal fees, didn't she use that money on a cat who died?

Could have sworn it was 15 minute consultation with a lawyer and the rest went to anime merch and conventions.

Also I bet the IRS would be interested in it since I am sure that is taxable income and she is not a 501 c3 or any other type of charity, nor is the money being held in a trust like vics GFM is

 

[Lone Outsider]

With that in mind, on a scale of "slightly" to "hilariously", how likely is it that Monica Rial (best known for being formerly engaged to a paedophile) and Ronald Joseph Toye III (known wife-beater, child abuser and amnesiac) would win a malpractice case against Lemwhiney?

Lemoine would present his billing shit as evidence for his defence in that situation, right? What would happen if MoRon said they didn't ask him to do any of those activities? I assume the burden of proof is then thrown to Lemoine?

Lemonine raising the legal fees is something that's gonna hurt MoRon hard because it's gonna backfire big time if they lose in the appeals courts and more so if have to pay VIC'S legal fees. Them having to go up against Lemon-Fürher for malpractice would be a nightmare even I think would be fucked up, not because they don't deserve it but because just how far those clowns have gone in wanting a Vic dead and gone.

Given how Lemoine has been completely on board with their unhinged behavior I suspect he is preparing a contingency if MoRon lose the case as the appeals being denied scared the fuck out of him. MoRon on the other hand are banking everything on this and that leaves them with a lot to lose although I think what Lemoine fears losing the most are access to consluts.

I'm surprised her gofundme isn't reported for fraud. There's no way in hell that money was spent on legal fees, didn't she use that money on a cat who died?

It should have a long time ago, Image having to explain how she wasted all that money going to area 51.

 

[Garm]

I love how you sound so surprised that I made a good point, but you're still not as surprised as me.

You raised an excellent point and that led to a think producing. Ron has probably cut everyone who disagreed with him on this out of his life. Hence why most of us are scratching our heads on why he deleted his Twitter.

He was too macho to put up with the constant offers of support.

There is literally nothing stopping them from doing this right now. Someone at wick phillips has probably researched this by now and can easily coordinate with someone among the kickvic crowd to set this up like vics is. Hell the defense themselves can do it. The only thing stopping them is ron running his mouth about a real man paying his lawsuit and other stupid shit he probably regrets now. Other reason is that they really sincerely think nick is somehow pocketing the money and really cannot understand the setup that went into it.

Seeing as how Funimation might be paying for their representation, that would potentially be fraud. Or very, very shady to go asking for money.

Ron knows what he said. The bills also show that he isn't paying his own bills. He's already outed as a hypocrite. A GoFundMe now would only show that they have a percentage of Vic's support.

And they know that Nick isn't grifting. They say that to de-legitimize Nick, Ty and the people who support Vic. The tactic preys upon people's ignorance of how legal instruments work.

I'm saying that the toxic environment Ron is complaining about is probably people legitimately concerned for Ron's well being. As fucked up as that is.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

So since the amount of fees are in question, can Chupp force Lemoine/Rial/Toye to prove they were actually charged and paid $280,000/$180,000 at the end of this suit, or is that covered by attorney/client privilege?

Or, in other words, how can the judge be sure the clients were charged what the lawyers claimed they were?

Lemoine stood in front of the judge and said he'd charge the clients that amount, which is what I'm interested about. If he doesn't charge them that amount could Lemoine be found to be committing perjury/fraud on the court? Can the court verify he did charge them like he claimed he would?

I don't know how you'd prove that, and I doubt the court is going to go fishing for cases. You'd have to get a D.A. interested or something, right?

If they were smart, the defense could [don't put peanuts up your nose], but who knows if they're even that wise.

You can if you can get the dumbass client to talk about it.

So either MoRonica et al expose their dirty laundry in public and get their attorney sanctioned for it, or they have to pretend for the rest of their lives that Vic delt them a crushing blow.

I like those odds.