Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

I'm late to the Stealing Solo party, but I just can't let go that "This is better art than Joe Quesada's art" comment from Ego Van Sciver. These are some Linkara levels of autism. For people lazy to look for some JQ art here's an example.

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And even if you gonna say that Ego only looked at the covers

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I didn't spend ANY of the Cyberfrog Bloodhoney money on myself, you exceptional individual. $8000 went to a lawyer, the rest of it went to taxes and paying for talent (Kyle Ritter and Somni) a charity and the enormous bills of printing trading cards, chromium covers, books and stickers.

I live like I do and always have. I made more money from DC Comics last year than I did when I actively worked for them, thanks to royalties, and YouTube pays all the household expenses.

I've YET to draw a paycheck from the Comics Business, because I was waiting to see how thing shook out after expenses. At this point, I'm spending that extra money on the hardcover ($48 per page to scan and create new files of old material, 328 pages) and commissioning and printing a giveaway Frog book, as well as getting the new CYBERFROG 2 chromium covers already printed and ready to go ahead of time.

We will continue to reinvest that money in CYBERFROG.

As for the coins, eh. They were meant to be giveaways with the trading card sets. It didn't work so well, but that's another company licensing Cyberfrog and paying me a stipend. It's not my own money.

At the end of the day CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY looks better than ANY other crowdfunded comic. And I want that achievement of $1M for the entire book. Just to be able to call him a million dollar frog!

All of the stuff is printed and ready to ship next week! You're going to hear a lot of happy customers. The ashcan is fantastic.

Salute! Happy Holidays!
Sell it to someone that buys it. You made almost a million. 8k is a drop in the bucket paying Kyle a 10k bonus so I’m guessing his pay was lower then the 10k and the lettering guy I’m guessing made less then kyle. You used cheap paper so stop the act. Stop acting like you are abused and mistreated your not.
 
I am glad that PocketJacksComics is at least threadbanned now. I'm not opposed to even pros making their account and post here in Kiwifarms. But if you are just going to post the script of the drivel you just read for your youtube video and pray you can make a personal army out of that, please go away. At least participate in the discussion.

I am the one reported him
 
... but effin a lot like Jamie McKelvie copycat wannabe. Including that god awful facial expression of passive contempt.

Kinda, but even that has more details like a defined neck, facial features an an actual ink work instead of lazy photoshop darkening and a lot more

So is there even a way to criticize Comicsgay for their basic fuckups? Cuz Cripto doesn't even talk about CG that often being happy with his old books and all that. How salty. Where's that extream-alpha-im-not-a-cuck masculinity and thick skin Ehehehe claims to have?
 
Kinda, but even that has more details like a defined neck, facial features an an actual ink work instead of lazy photoshop darkening and a lot more
I seriously have no idea which one you refer as "that" because McKelvie is doing all inking very well while the Solo is lazy and comparatively unskilled. On the other hand colorong in Solo is better than what Wilson does with McKelvie, so yeah, which?
 
I'm late to the Stealing Solo party, but I just can't let go that "This is better art than Joe Quesada's art" comment from Ego Van Sciver. These are some Linkara levels of autism. For people lazy to look for some JQ art here's an example.

And even if you gonna say that Ego only looked at the covers

It honestly sounds like EVS is so desperate for content that's not the Last Jedi that he's scraping from the bottom of the barrel at this point, because that art is shit and he knows it. Joe Quesada's art (while it's a bit too blocky for my tastes) is pretty fucking good.

As an artist of some caliber, I expected Ethan to have better insight, but well...
 
So is there even a way to criticize Comicsgate for their basic fuckups? Cuz Crypto doesn't even talk about CG that often being happy with his old books and all that. How salty. Where's that extream-alpha-im-not-a-cuck masculinity and thick skin Ehehehe claims to have?

I think you're misunderstanding that tweet.

It honestly sounds like EVS is so desperate for content that's not the Last Jedi that he's scraping from the bottom of the barrel at this point, because that art is shit and he knows it. Joe Quesada's art (while it's a bit too blocky for my tastes) is pretty fucking good.

As an artist of some caliber, I expected Ethan to have better insight, but well...

I said the cover reminded me of early Quesada. How that evolved in the minds of retards into "This Book is Better Than Quesada" is all just part of the sperg show that is anti-ComicsGate. In fact, I haven't read the book yet, but the art from that portion of the interiors that people are showing ISN'T HIS, from what I understand, but a different artist. Was there a short story in there as well? That wasn't Jeff.

I saw more Jeff Hicks art from the book, and it's competent/pretty good and damned appealing. But I'll save my final thoughts for when I've actually READ THE COMIC. Up until then, all I've got to go on are my first impressions.

1) Its called 'puffery' and its a well-known salesmanship technique.
2) Ethan is a boomer who chugs cans of diet Monster in a literal mancave. Let's not pretend like he's Louis Leroy at the Salon.

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100% correct.
 
Maybe the rest of the book is better than what people are putting on twitter.

whERe are hEr JoiNTs? Look at the lack of any detail on those hands. The 30 second photoshop gradient filtl looks like something Malibu did when they were still learning how to do digital coloring - only there's no detail line work to help the gradient out.

Edit: Is this really all from some other artist? Why would Jeff include something this low quality in his book?

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Maybe the rest of the book is better than what people are putting on twitter.

whERe are hEr JoiNTs? Look at the lack of any detail on those hands. The 30 second photoshop gradient filtl looks like something Malibu did when they were still learning how to do digital coloring - only there's no detail line work to help the gradient out.

Edit: Is this really all from some other artist? Why would Jeff include something this low quality in his book?

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It does make me laugh lol . Why does she have a hand attached to her shoulder?
 
Maybe the rest of the book is better than what people are putting on twitter.

whERe are hEr JoiNTs? Look at the lack of any detail on those hands. The 30 second photoshop gradient filtl looks like something Malibu did when they were still learning how to do digital coloring - only there's no detail line work to help the gradient out.

Edit: Is this really all from some other artist? Why would Jeff include something this low quality in his book?

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ahahahaha. that is seriously bad art. who would fucking endorse this?? i think i could do even better than this.
 
I think you're misunderstanding that tweet.
You gonna explain how? Because "Nah Y R wrong" sounds kinda pointless and empty

I said the cover reminded me of early Quesada. How that evolved in the minds of exceptional individuals into "This Book is Better Than Quesada" is all just part of the sperg show that is anti-ComicsGate. In fact,
1. No. You said "The art looks like JQ" no "early", no "reminds me". Funny how you fight misquotation and trying to retcon what you said at the same time.
2. It doesn't matter if you said that about the cover or the whole book, the comparison to JQ doesn't hold any water either way.
I haven't read the book yet, but the art from that portion of the interiors that people are showing ISN'T HIS, from what I understand, but a different artist. Was there a short story in there as well? That wasn't Jeff.
Whether it's his or not is beside the point, it's still part of the product. That 9 months late, 20$ for a floppy product. You seem to be under this very convenient delusion that this whole thing is jut a personal attack against Mags Jeff, It's not. It's an attack against Stealing Solo the product. When people complain about Bullshit they're talking about Bullshit the manager, or Bullshit the salesman, not poor little forced to draw artist.

You're clearly not smart enough to move the the goalposts in a sneaky manner so just stop.

I saw more Jeff Hicks art from the book, and it's competent/pretty good and damned appealing.
You also thought that "the art looks like JQ" so...
 
You gonna explain how? Because "Nah Y R wrong" sounds kinda pointless and empty


1. No. You said "The art looks like JQ" no "early", no "reminds me". Funny how you fight misquotation and trying to retcon what you said at the same time.
2. It doesn't matter if you said that about the cover or the whole book, the comparison to JQ doesn't hold any water either way.

Whether it's his or not is beside the point, it's still part of the product. That 9 months late, 20$ for a floppy product. You seem to be under this very convenient delusion that this whole thing is jut a personal attack against Mags Jeff, It's not. It's an attack against Stealing Solo the product. When people complain about Bullshit they're talking about Bullshit the manager, or Bullshit the salesman, not poor little forced to draw artist.

You're clearly not smart enough to move the the goalposts in a sneaky manner so just stop.


You also thought that "the art looks like JQ" so...

Yeah, the cover art, which is all there was at the time I made that statement, looks like Joe Quesada's art.

To me. You can disagree.

You're not being honest by pretending Jeff's art is bad. It's pretty good. I got a look at it just a few hours ago.

Others are not being honest by showing the back up artist's art, implying that it's Jeff's art, and then saying Jeff isn't a good artist.

There are no goalposts. I'm not under any of the "delusions" you suggest. You're allowed to criticize any aspect of the work or delivery of the work.

You're autistically looking for a fight with someone who doesn't care, and who is only discussing this because someone asked my opinion.
 
Yeah, the cover art, which is all there was at the time I made that statement, looks like Joe Quesada's art.

To me. You can disagree.
So this is what it came to? A Tumblr excuse of "Well... I liked it so it's good!!!!" Really? Minimum facial details on a very wrinkly old Harrison Ford's face, almost no shadow work on the right despite the light blasting his face from the left, flat and boring inking... Nothing? You came from a movement where looking and commenting on art was a norm, you had art reviews on your channel and all you can squeeze is a classic tumblrina excuse "Uh... oooh... Me like. it's subjective!"? Fuck off with this.
You're not being honest by pretending Jeff's art is bad. It's pretty good. I got a look at it just a few hours ago.
Ok. Prove it. I'm sure after this PR disaster Jeff can donate you HIS art to show and review, after all you're friends and you should help a friend. You can even go one step beyond and show me which piece of JQ art the bullshit comic reminded you about. Let me guess, this is the part where your "I don't care" excuse allows you to run away from an actual opportunity to defend BullshtJeff?
Others are not being honest by showing the back up artist's art, implying that it's Jeff's art, and then saying Jeff isn't a good artist.
Again, that's besides the point. It's still part of shitty overpriced, poorly handled comic. This isn't just about Jeff the artist this is about Jeff the shitty manager who apparently has no quality control.
There are no goalposts. I'm not under any of the "delusions" you suggest. You're allowed to criticize any aspect of the work or delivery of the work.
Every argument has some form of goalposts. But thank you for allowing me to criticize you circus. Not many people are allowed to do it from what I've seen.
You're autistically looking for a fight with someone who doesn't care, and who is only discussing this because someone asked my opinion.
Where was I looking for a fight? Unless you count criticism and keeping track of your comments is an attack , but if that's true Jeff really is your Maggs.

Also you "don't care" so much you've responded to every single line of my post. You "don't care" so much you've named every single anti-CG channel in your tweets and lunch sperg threads about them on your Twitter semi regularly. You "don't care" so much you've joined this forum after the criticism started to pile up and you show up whenever a new controversy begins without being tagged... Sure you don't care
 
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