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Riperoni6 dijo:
Right?? But it's has always been like this. Every post I've seen of vic's have been around 5k , 1k, 2k, 12k, 10k, ( some post are around the hunders but those are usually the ones where he replays to a tweet). People love vic.
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I'd like to also add that both monica and jamie dont get close to what vic get's, maybe 1.2k at MOST but never anything more than that. It's almost like people like vic more than jamie or monica
 
Much Ado About Nothing dijo:
So I felt the Autism hit me hard today; so I removed some of the redaction from the PDF document.
I left the black lines around the boxes stand so you can easily tell what was redacted

Here ya go pages: 163-191
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This is really interesting and I want to see more. It's hilarious he researched Nick, and interesting to confirm that it was Lemoine's buttsore that got GFM to start refunding donos. Must have threatened them. Also worth noting, they planned out 'staggering', which I'm guessing means they did indeed strategically time TCPAs.
 
Since people feelings get hurt by Vic saying this (even though I totally believe he said this only when Nick started saying it) think it needs to be said. Yes, cons are technically for fans. They go to these places to dress up, to have fun, and meet their fav VA's. This is something that shouldn't be mocked or triggered by other people or by the douche's at ANN or especially from VA's who honestly need fans since they give them their hard earned money for autographs. These guys need to remember that Vic started as a fan going to these things (NERD). While yes the argument can be made that VA's go to cons to meet the fans who support them and love their work, but still they're are lucky to even have fans. Especially when their fans see how their fav VA's act online. I know my heart was bit broken last year seeing Sean Schemmel act like a pompous dick during the Kamehacon season and his actions here (since Goku is my fav character ever)
 
Son of Sparda 84 dijo:
Since people feelings get hurt by Vic saying this (even though I totally believe he said this only when Nick started saying it) think it needs to be said. Yes, cons are technically for fans. They go to these places to dress up, to have fun, and meet their fav VA's. This is something that shouldn't be mocked or triggered by other people or by the douche's at ANN or especially from VA's who honestly need fans since they give them their hard earned money for autographs. These guys need to remember that Vic started as a fan going to these things (NERD). While yes the argument can be made that VA's go to cons to meet the fans who support them and love their work, but still they're are lucky to even have fans. Especially when their fans see how their fav VA's act online. I know my heart was bit broken last year seeing Sean Schemmel act like a pompous dick during the Kamehacon season and his actions here (since Goku is my fav character ever)
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You think KV wants cons to be some sterile corporate thing?
 
Random Internet Person dijo:
You think KV wants cons to be some sterile corporate thing?
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KV wants cons to become safe spaces, where women can wear anything they want, ugly men are forbidden from entering, and hot guys are forced to do their bidding. Cucks are allowed in wearing burkas and handcuffed to a strong independent wammyn.
 
You guys are wrong about one thing in regards to cons.

The wamin and their ass kissing dudes want cons to be free of people they feel aren't welcome. They still do all the same stupid shit they condemn others for. Sex, in some cases alcohol and drugs, pretending to be celebrities because they had 2000 people cram into a room for some panel they hosted or for some cosplay shit.

The truth is they don't want anyone to know what kind of depraved things they do except for the people they approve of. Consent is merely a lie they maintain in order to police their circle.

As cons have become more popular, so have egos. You want to know where the root of all this bullshit came from? The cosplayers and the organizers who were in it to get access to the people they idolize. They absolutely want to live out their fantasies and some people just aren't a part of them.

This isn't the case at all conventions, no. But the people on the con scene that scream bullshit but demand to be treated like gods? They're absolutely the most predatory of people.
 
Son of Sparda 84 dijo:
Since people feelings get hurt by Vic saying this (even though I totally believe he said this only when Nick started saying it) think it needs to be said. Yes, cons are technically for fans. They go to these places to dress up, to have fun, and meet their fav VA's. This is something that shouldn't be mocked or triggered by other people or by the douche's at ANN or especially from VA's who honestly need fans since they give them their hard earned money for autographs. These guys need to remember that Vic started as a fan going to these things (NERD). While yes the argument can be made that VA's go to cons to meet the fans who support them and love their work, but still they're are lucky to even have fans. Especially when their fans see how their fav VA's act online. I know my heart was bit broken last year seeing Sean Schemmel act like a pompous dick during the Kamehacon season and his actions here (since Goku is my fav character ever)
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I think that people need to understand that VA's provide us with entertainment and are performers so the rules of engagement is different. They are gonna have to sacrifice a bit of their personal life and freedom when they get famous as they say in public as be under scrutiny and can affect their job opportunities or even good will with the fans. It's not just talent that you need to be a VA but the ability to be open and respectful to fans especially the more famous they get because it's those very fans that support and without them they are nothing. They are in the industry to work for both themselves and the fans and that includes going to cons and meeting them. which requires a serviceable and approachable personality even if you have to wear a "mask" if they are introverts, people are still gonna like and respect that VA or actor as long as they are not a twofaced weebstein beneath said mask.

On the flipside fans shouldn't think that they can control VA's and have them change to fit their view, as fans we can criticise or be unhappy with someone's work but it doesn't give us the right to change it, we can either like it or not. And what we are seeing right now are not just the "fans" that demand someone be made into non-Cis WM or any drastic change of the narrative, but the VA's and creators as well that are injecting their politics into a story to suit their ideals. They don't care about the craft, but about the fame the craft brings and sadly to my chagrin many people tend to like poor material as long as it's flashy and arrogant VAs, creators and businessmen will gladly make more to milk them out of their money.

However, there are fiction and games with a strong political or philosophical theme in theme that are good but that's because it either flies under the rader and only the enlighten will understand at the time while normies just thing it's an interesting plot point or it's overt and presents us with an idea that we can either agree or disagree with. Look at MGS, especially the 2nd game and it's plot.

I think that a lot of VA's have been on a massive ego trip ever since they got famous and just didn't expect or could handle the fame they got and the lack of professionalism in a field that the MSM didn't bat an eyelid to until now has created the monsters that are on social media right now. Many of them don't understand that people that like their work sometimes want to get to know the VA's personally, and if they don't like them, fine at least respect their work that's what you like about them, separate the actor from the work. However given that VA's and actors are so ingrained with their politics and ideals that they infect their roles with it and they don't do their roles justice but instead damages a franchise, Just look at the actor for double-trouble in Shera or Star Wars fall for an example.

TL;DR: I am all up for cons and stuff being for the fans but at the same time I've not forgotten that the fans are not infallible and neither are VA's so instead of using entertainment as a propaganda piece, make it fun first and foremost and leave the ideals to the hardcore fans.

Dumb Bitch Smoothie dijo:
You guys are wrong about one thing in regards to cons.

The wamin and their ass kissing dudes want cons to be free of people they feel aren't welcome. They still do all the same stupid shit they condemn others for. Sex, in some cases alcohol and drugs, pretending to be celebrities because they had 2000 people cram into a room for some panel they hosted or for some cosplay shit.

The truth is they don't want anyone to know what kind of depraved things they do except for the people they approve of. Consent is merely a lie they maintain in order to police their circle.

As cons have become more popular, so have egos. You want to know where the root of all this bullshit came from? The cosplayers and the organizers who were in it to get access to the people they idolize. They absolutely want to live out their fantasies and some people just aren't a part of them.

This isn't the case at all conventions, no. But the people on the con scene that scream bullshit but demand to be treated like gods? They're absolutely the most predatory of people.
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True that's also a reason they wanted Vic out because he was gonna get a directorial role at FUNI and if he blew the whistle on them it would be game over. on a more personal note I think they also didn't like the fact that he is legitimately a nice guy and that make him more money than them and they don't understand and are PISSED that this business rewards nice people with more fans and thus more money, even fakers like Sabat can't fully understand it.
 
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Éire-Ice36 dijo:
I think that people need to understand that VA's provide us with entertainment and are performers so the rules of engagement is different. They are gonna have to sacrifice a bit of their personal life and freedom when they get famous as they say in public as be under scrutiny and can affect their job opportunities or even good will with the fans. It's not just talent that you need to be a VA but the ability to be open and respectful to fans especially the more famous they get because it's those very fans that support and without them they are nothing. They are in the industry to work for both themselves and the fans and that includes going to cons and meeting them. which requires a serviceable and approachable personality even if you have to wear a "mask" if they are introverts, people are still gonna like and respect that VA or actor as long as they are not a twofaced weebstein beneath said mask.

On the flipside fans shouldn't think that they can control VA's and have them change to fit their view, as fans we can criticise or be unhappy with someone's work but it doesn't give us the right to change it, we can either like it or not. And what we are seeing right now are not just the "fans" that demand someone be made into non-Cis WM or any drastic change of the narrative, but the VA's and creators as well that are injecting their politics into a story to suit their ideals. They don't care about the craft, but about the fame the craft brings and sadly to my chagrin many people tend to like poor material as long as it's flashy and arrogant VAs, creators and businessmen will gladly make more to tard cum them out of their money.

However, there are fiction and games with a strong political or philosophical theme in theme that are good but that's because it either flies under the rader and only the enlighten will understand at the time while normies just thing it's an interesting plot point or it's overt and presents us with an idea that we can either agree or disagree with. Look at MGS, especially the 2nd game and it's plot.

I think that a lot of VA's have been on a massive ego trip ever since they got famous and just didn't expect or could handle the fame they got and the lack of professionalism in a field that the MSM didn't bat an eyelid to until now has created the monsters that are on social media right now. Many of them don't understand that people that like their work sometimes want to get to know the VA's personally, and if they don't like them, fine at least respect their work that's what you like about them, separate the actor from the work. However given that VA's and actors are so ingrained with their politics and ideals that they infect their roles with it and they don't do their roles justice but instead damages a franchise, Just look at the actor for double-trouble in Shera or Star Wars fall for an example.

TL;DR: I am all up for cons and stuff being for the fans but at the same time I've not forgotten that the fans are not infallible and neither are VA's so instead of using entertainment as a propaganda piece, make it fun first and foremost and leave the ideals to the hardcore fans.


True that's also a reason they wanted Vic out because he was gonna get a directorial role at FUNI and if he blew the whistle on them it would be game over. on a more personal note I think they also didn't like the fact that he is legitimately a nice guy and that make him more money than them and they don't understand and are PISSED that this business rewards nice people with more fans and thus more money, even fakers like Sabat can't fully understand it.
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They don't like him because he's on a different level than they are. He isn't willing to play their games and keep their secrets. He is a nice guy but his tolerance for bullshit in his profession is next to zero. That's his zen place, he has expectations and will hold others to a standard of behavior and performance that reflects his ideals. Obviously it doesn't mean he won't let them have fun, it just means they'll be expected to treat their jobs with more integrity.

I think the only reason why he hasn't flipped that switch is because this lawsuit isn't his element. It left him blindsided and hurt. He doesn't hold people accountable to be an asshole, it's because he genuinely cares for them and wants them to put 100% into their work. But people in this day and age are far too sensitive....

Brief power level: the major anime con run near me is full of assholes but they brought Vic a few years ago by popular demand. At this con, there's an outdoor area where people chill out. Like most cons, this is where the people who ghost the con hang out. In short, 20+ people will pass around one badge to hit the dealers hall and whatever else and pass it off to the next person, or they just don't care and want to hang out. So, basically a ton of people who don't pay.

Usually someone will set up music or something out there, food vendors will also set up shop and it'll be a mix of paid attendees and the ghosters mingling and enjoying themselves.

Out of all the people who had visited this con, Vic was the only one to go outside and hang out with the people out there knowing a good number of them didn't pay. And it was of his own free will too, no handlers or other people dictating what he was doing with his free time. He just went and joined in the fun and then went about his day after a good while
Pretty sure there's a few videos from that floating around too.

And that's just one of many stories. People will say that you can't know someone by just a chance meeting and that's true. But these encounters have been consistent, and people have shared similar stories time and time again. And it isn't similarities that mirror each other to the point of questioning validity like the assault stories that have manifested, it's consistent because it's not an act he has to put on for people. It's how he is.

But they will always deny these stories and people's experiences since it doesn't fit the narrative.
 
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