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The super-rich guys trooning out is something that comes from a simultaneous desire for control and loss of control, by people who have really outside amounts of control in their day-to-day lives.

They've figured out by their age that there's no such thing as free pussy. No woman comes near them without expecting a lot of financial consideration for the relationship. They've had to cultivate personalities that make it all but impossible for someone to love them for who they are, rather than what they can bring to the table. Hell, at that level of wealth you're really pretty lucky if you can keep them happy with a nice apartment and some furs, and not "businesses" they'll run into the ground after spending millions. And the pussy that seems cheap upfront doesn't stay cheap, those are the bitches who find out who you are and then blackmail the shit out of you. Your lawyer takes care of their NDAs, but it takes time and costs money, so after a while you settle on women who know the deal and will work out the price up front.

And then, even after you pay for their shit, pay for everything they want, they STILL throw their little hissy fits, you still can't rely on them completely to be perfect, sparkling arm candy, and they might still balk at some weird sex shit, or demand apologies in the form of jewelry. They complain about you spending too much time with your golf buddies, or wasting mid-five figures on a strip club outing. Women are a pain in the ass when you're a billionaire, is what I'm saying. You want them, but they're always causing complications in your life and you can never tell when one of them is going to try to ruin your day.

It's really just a variant on the "can't get the girlfriend? BECOME the girlfriend" that you see with incels, only it's been taken to this elevated place of unlimited entitlement. Much like the incels, if they lowered their standards or met real-world women halfway and just dealt with the fact that having relationships with human beings isn't always easy and isn't always about you, their lovequest would be easy.

But when what you really need is a woman who won't talk back, will let you do anything to her body at any time, won't ask you for anything you're not willing to give, and who makes you feel like the sexiest person they've ever met every day...well, you're going to need to auto-Pygmalion that and carve her out of your own flesh.
 
But when what you really need is a woman who won't talk back, will let you do anything to her body at any time, won't ask you for anything you're not willing to give, and who makes you feel like the sexiest person they've ever met every day...well, you're going to need to auto-Pygmalion that and carve her out of your own flesh.
The problem is that no sane man would approach them, let alone sleep with them. Because they will look like men in dresses, not the kind of women they could get.
 
The super-rich guys trooning out is something that comes from a simultaneous desire for control and loss of control, by people who have really outside amounts of control in their day-to-day lives.

They've figured out by their age that there's no such thing as free pussy. No woman comes near them without expecting a lot of financial consideration for the relationship. They've had to cultivate personalities that make it all but impossible for someone to love them for who they are, rather than what they can bring to the table. Hell, at that level of wealth you're really pretty lucky if you can keep them happy with a nice apartment and some furs, and not "businesses" they'll run into the ground after spending millions. And the pussy that seems cheap upfront doesn't stay cheap, those are the bitches who find out who you are and then blackmail the shit out of you. Your lawyer takes care of their NDAs, but it takes time and costs money, so after a while you settle on women who know the deal and will work out the price up front.

And then, even after you pay for their shit, pay for everything they want, they STILL throw their little hissy fits, you still can't rely on them completely to be perfect, sparkling arm candy, and they might still balk at some weird sex shit, or demand apologies in the form of jewelry. They complain about you spending too much time with your golf buddies, or wasting mid-five figures on a strip club outing. Women are a pain in the ass when you're a billionaire, is what I'm saying. You want them, but they're always causing complications in your life and you can never tell when one of them is going to try to ruin your day.

Please tell me this is all you trying to be ironic and not just packing as much misogyny as humanly possible into a post, because uh, this does not come off well.
 
Please tell me this is all you trying to be ironic and not just packing as much misogyny as humanly possible into a post, because uh, this does not come off well.

This is the way super-rich misogynist assholes actually think about women. I'm not going to powerlevel about how I know. But yeah, it's not my views, though it is my views of how THEY see women. And that literally no woman meets their qualifications for a perfect object. So they have to create her...from themselves.
 
This is the way super-rich misogynist assholes actually think about women. I'm not going to powerlevel about how I know. But yeah, it's not my views, though it is my views of how THEY see women. And that literally no woman meets their qualifications for a perfect object. So they have to create her...from themselves.

Thank you so much for explaining! I'm extremely exceptional and was so confused about whether you were saying that's what THEY think or that's what you think and was like "sweet jesus even for the farms that's a lot" lol. I think I need more coffee. Again. Sorry about that.
 
Just chop it off yourself.😁
The only troon I've personally known did that. Fortunately, the surgeons could reattach it, although today a troon would probably sue a doctor for malpractice if they did that. He wasn't really transgender, though. He had been misdiagnosed as that by his psychiatrist. He actually was schizo. Once he got on meds, he didn't want to be a woman anymore.
 
The only troon I've personally known did that. Fortunately, the surgeons could reattach it, although today a troon would probably sue a doctor for malpractice if they did that. He wasn't really transgender, though. He had been misdiagnosed as that by his psychiatrist. He actually was schizo. Once he got on meds, he didn't want to be a woman anymore.

If I had my way, therapists would tackle comorbid conditions first rather than diagnosing GD.

You can browse around FtM reddit subs for a while and check user histories. Lots of PTSD from CSA, depression, anxiety, self-harm ideation, even EDs pop up from time to time. Testosterone ain't the treatment for any of those but that's what they get.
 
If I had my way, therapists would tackle comorbid conditions first rather than diagnosing GD.

You can browse around FtM reddit subs for a while and check user histories. Lots of PTSD from CSA, depression, anxiety, self-harm ideation, even EDs pop up from time to time. Testosterone ain't the treatment for any of those but that's what they get.
They simply wish to run from their past selves, instead of fighting all of this they deny it and run. They hope that changing entirely will delete these emotions.
Spoilers : It won't.
 
Does he realize that by large real women don’t get that privilege eather? Sure most women are at their hottest in their 20’s but their hottest isn’t still that grand. To be what is generally considered hot a woman needs have good luck with genetics, within right weight, not to get sick, have some social grace and decent knowledge of clothes and make up. That’s something only minority of ladies are able to pull off. Most women just get to level of nice or avarice, and plenty are unlucky enough to fall to what is considered awkward or ugly. Mostly young women have only slightly easier than young guys and have their own issues like having harder time to compensate their lacking looks with things like money or music skills.

This is a really great point, and a fallacy incels/manosphere denizens fall for, too. Not every woman is a stunning 10/10 model with perfect cheekbones and a great figure. Most women are just average, pretty but not beautiful. A lot are plain or even unattractive (to most people, anyway).

They also love to pretend that all women get “female privilege” (as in, playing life on easy mode where you get handed everything and people fall over themselves to help you) when in reality that only happens to very attractive women. And even then, those women have to deal with being objectified and having their value from others depend on their physical attractiveness. And if you’re plain or unattractive? You’ll be treated like you don’t exist if you’re lucky, if you’re unlucky people will treat you like shit for being a woman who dares to not be sexually desirable.
 
Well if theres a demand, i suppose i have a calling to fulfill, hopefully you're not the only one here interested in that sort of content.
Well it appears there is a demand for this type of content, I suppose I'll begin work on it when I'm not working a shift at my job.

P.s. thanks for giving your honest opinion on this idea. Its greatly appreciated.
 
Thank you so much for explaining! I'm extremely exceptional and was so confused about whether you were saying that's what THEY think or that's what you think and was like "sweet jesus even for the farms that's a lot" lol. I think I need more coffee. Again. Sorry about that.
I love the level of maturity the farms has compared to literally everything else. Thank you fam)
 
Are there any sites collecting receipts of these sexual assaults/attacks committed by troons? I don't doubt for a second these cases exist, but it would be helpful to have a resource for such information.

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They claim E impairs their driving skills, weakens their mathematical and spatial reasoning abilities, significantly enfeebles them, and makes them prone to clumsily bumping into walls with their tits, but somehow we're expected not to view this movement as inherently misogynistic.
Estrogen does mess up your vision if you're a man, though. Something to do with male and female eyes working differently. I also wouldn't be surprised if taking estrogen as a man doesn't mess up their brain-parts, too.

But you're right, it is hilarious, and incredibly sexist, that they think it's because they're becoming a woman rather than because they're pumping foreign chemicals into their bloodstreams. It's the same logic as those freaks whose neovaginas start discharging pus and blood, and they get excited because the see it as analogous to a woman's period rather than the sign of a severe medical issue.
 
Smoothbrain troon is disappointed to learn that T-blockers + E lower libido, other troons try to comfort him with vague language and the possibility of "increased sensualness [sic] in other ways."
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Troon is saddened by the masculine reality of his penis, other troons provide some truly fantastic tips that will surely make his dick much cuter.
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None of them suggested applying makeup to it?

Too bad the post exposing bunnylucy or whatever was deleted.


There's a point where I can't even laugh at his self assessment. He doesn't look bad exactly. That's not always the problem. But he doesn't look like an attractive woman. He looks *wrong*.

If I had my way, therapists would tackle comorbid conditions first rather than diagnosing GD.

You can browse around FtM reddit subs for a while and check user histories. Lots of PTSD from CSA, depression, anxiety, self-harm ideation, even EDs pop up from time to time. Testosterone ain't the treatment for any of those but that's what they get.

I am pretty sure that's usually how it's supposed to work. Conditions like depression can manifest in a mind boggling number of strange and seemingly unrelated ways. And it's medically much less complicated than the process of transitioning.

I love the level of maturity the farms has compared to literally everything else. Thank you fam)

This has overwhelmingly been my observation which is incredible considering the reputation. I can't think of another place like it.

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No they don’t realize it because average women are either sexless or invisible to them.



There’s something disturbingly infantilizing when troons talk about their “girl dick” or suggest an HRT-shrunken penis with a bow on it is erotic or arousing.

A girl is a child, a female child. Whenever you read these idiots talking about their girl dick, try replacing “girl” with “child” and it becomes something infinitely more disgusting.

He's tried 40+ psychiatric meds in the past 2 years. Um. I guess I don't know about most meds but I thought time was one of the more important things. Like, if you've ruled out 40+ meds in such a short span you either tried too many at once, didn't give them enough time to properly judge their efficacy or both.

Estrogen does mess up your vision if you're a man, though. Something to do with male and female eyes working differently. I also wouldn't be surprised if taking estrogen as a man doesn't mess up their brain-parts, too.

But you're right, it is hilarious, and incredibly sexist, that they think it's because they're becoming a woman rather than because they're pumping foreign chemicals into their bloodstreams. It's the same logic as those freaks whose neovaginas start discharging pus and blood, and they get excited because the see it as analogous to a woman's period rather than the sign of a severe medical issue.

I doubt hormones did anything of the sort, based on the stereotypical sexism of the claims. It's placebo. They have preconceived notions on what women are like and they placebo themselves into being bad drivers and crying while they shove bars of chocolate into their mouths. And periods.
 
Estrogen does mess up your vision if you're a man, though. Something to do with male and female eyes working differently. I also wouldn't be surprised if taking estrogen as a man doesn't mess up their brain-parts, too.

But you're right, it is hilarious, and incredibly sexist, that they think it's because they're becoming a woman rather than because they're pumping foreign chemicals into their bloodstreams. It's the same logic as those freaks whose neovaginas start discharging pus and blood, and they get excited because the see it as analogous to a woman's period rather than the sign of a severe medical issue.

Here's an interesting thing.

Everyone thought that troons had a decreased risk of prostate cancer. Orchiectomy,, spironolactone, Lupron, well, they were all used as treatments for prostate cancer back in the day. Less testosterone, less PSA.

Except no patients on these methods of treatment were also on exogenous estrogen. They were decreasing androgens. The prostate has beta estrogen receptors, and oh yeah within the last few years we discovered that estrogen can contribute to prostate cancer. Which should come as no surprise.

If you're a troon reading this, please go to your PCP for regular prostate exams.
 
Zoom in on that hoarder tier kitchen. Wow. Very feminine. Looks totally like the kitchen of a young woman starting out in her own place, making healthy dinners when she gets home from work and entertaining friends and love interests. Not the piss-stained abode of a hentai-addled gamer dude who has a collection of cum-encrusted socks and fermented Mountain Dew festering under his bed.

If I had my way, therapists would tackle comorbid conditions first rather than diagnosing GD.

You can browse around FtM reddit subs for a while and check user histories. Lots of PTSD from CSA, depression, anxiety, self-harm ideation, even EDs pop up from time to time. Testosterone ain't the treatment for any of those but that's what they get.

I have seen a fair number of them with even more extensive psychiatric histories, kids who had been on things like quetiapine or a standard hardcore severe bipolar with psychotic features-comorbid anxiety cocktail like lithium plus an anticonvulsant, SSRI or SNRI for the anxiety, antipsychotic, something PRN for sleep or prazosin for nightmares, propanolol, etc, and chucked them all, sometimes cold turkey, because "really, I wasn't bipolar or schizoaffective, it was just the gender feels bringing me down." And their gender docs are apparently fine with this.
 
If I had my way, therapists would tackle comorbid conditions first rather than diagnosing GD.

You can browse around FtM reddit subs for a while and check user histories. Lots of PTSD from CSA, depression, anxiety, self-harm ideation, even EDs pop up from time to time. Testosterone ain't the treatment for any of those but that's what they get.

If anything, HRT exacerbates the emotional instability, especially in patients with bipolar.
 
I really really dislike the look where you wonder if he's a hipster or if he's just homeless. It's sadly pretty popular in the PNW.

So it's not really much of a surprise he took his poor life choices to their fullest extent and started wearing a dress. Now he looks like a schizophrenic hobo!

Used to play a drinking game in PDX called Hipster or Homeless? Great way to get pretty shit-faced.
 
There's a really amazing paper (warning: SUPER long) about how the entire trans movement is essentially "astroturf" that goes over some of the origins of the movement.
While I have a variety of quibbles, this was an interesting article that does have some interesting ideas to ponder, I had not seen it before so thanks for linking.

I also found this response to be amusing, warning do not drink each time a troon talking point/trope is used as this will be lethal:

A sample:
However, and this is why I’ve come out only recently, the kids who may want to transition, not only may need help and advice, but in these volatile times, they may need protection from those who would wish them ill… And no, I don’t believe there is some hidden trans-agenda to turn kids away from being gay or lesbian. I mean, I would be aware of it and be part of it through my dealings with the Sexual Health Clinic. I would also refuse to be part of that if it did exist.
I was nothing before my transition. Immediately thereafter I took student loans to re-educate myself and have been working within my chosen career since 1988. I enjoy sex with men primarily, but love the company of other women and have had several pleasurable, sexual encounters therewith. Ergo, I’m Bi. I change in the women’s changeroom at my local pool with other women who think nothing of my presence (nor would you). I have gone from gender dysphoria to gender euphoria, and I have myself only to thank for this. I contribute to society, and have only “come out” again (since Oct 2017) because of all the strife, fear and bad feelings being leveled at the “trans” population. I want to be an example of what is good about us, and being fairly fearless, I’m willing to put myself at risk to do so.
I was beaten bloody by boys and men in my youth, my father being one of them. I’ve been subjected to male violence in ways that cisgender girls never experience, and I acknowledge that natal-born girls have had violence done to them that I will never experience. Granted. All that. We are not the same, nor is our oppression the same. However, our oppressors ARE the same. Men. God knows I love them, but they can be total A-holes. What alliance would be more natural or more frightening to the patriarchy? We are not without means and having transitioned, are usually fearless.
What exactly are you doing, may I ask? Your research is invaluable and we all thank you for sharing, but outside of finding fault with an admittedly corrupt system, what are you doing to help? What groups are you involved with that will continue your education into LGBT culture? These kids, you know, are going to be running the world some day. Can you honestly say that you really understand what’s going on with them?

Thank you for your response, and for (me) about the 100th time (I don’t like to exaggerate), I work and volunteer with gender non-confirming children (mostly teens actually) and I DO care, I DO love them, and I WOULD protect them with my life. Maybe I would make a good radical feminist. Something to think about.

Oh, wait, they have a part two rant that's even better:
Now we come to the crux of the matter… what would I lose? What would I lose if you should somehow found the words to convince me that my life as a woman was a mere delusion? What would I lose if by some magic formula you could make me believe and accept that my place in the world is that of a “man in a dress” and should act accordingly? Can you picture the absolute horror of realizing that you’ve lived a lie for 30 years? Can you imagine the shame inherent in knowing that my homo/transphobic father was right all along… that I would never be a woman and if I tried, I would be the ugliest woman on the face of the earth? Shunned and scorned by all who see me? A sick joke of a pervert, who deserves death for what I put them (my parents) through? That was the essence of my father’s contribution to my mental health, that is, after the beatings stopped when I finally stood up to him.

In the early days of my transition and just after my GCS, I dreamt on a few occasions that my penis had not been removed or had somehow come back. This is a very personal thing for me, and I hope you truly understand how upsetting it is for me to talk of it… and to complete strangers. I’d wake up soaking wet and screaming at the horror. (I’m actually tearing remembering this) What I’m trying to relay is the fact that: should I have some kind of accident where, for some strange reason I had to have another penis grafted to me or my brain transplanted into the body of a man (Stranger in a Strange Land), I’d close up shop, jump out a window… literally die inside. Get it?
So… what would I lose if you were able to convince me that I’m a sham, a “man in a dress”? Everything.

In conclusion to this prelude to our discussion, do you now believe the playing field is fair and equitable for both sides? Do you want to continue despite the field being rather unlevel?
Can I describe my “female” feelings without using stereotypes? Let me try.

I was 7-years-old when I first realized I was different from my sister. We showed each other what we had, and I was confounded and horrified that we were not the same. Up until that point we were inseparable and the same. Coincidentally or not, that was the time we were effectively separated and my sister was “Betty Crocker’d” and I was “Baden Powell’d” by my Mom and Dad, respectively. Before that we used to do all the things girls did: play dressup with my Mom’s clothes; have tea parties for our stuffed animals (all female); we used to pretend we were lionesses (after watching Born Free); my favorite toy that I took to bed with me was my “Girl Bow Wow”, and I collected all kinds of beautiful things that I used to call my “pretties”. Even taken together, are these a clear indication of being a girl? No, of course not, but they do set a trend for all that came later on. However, considering I was a child, could this be considered stereotypical behavior when I had no concept of sex or gender? I think not.

At 10 I found a reference in the library (I was definitely a bookworm) that stated people like me were labelled under the medical heading (remember, it’s the ‘60’s) “Psycho-Sexual Disorders” and lumped me in with transvestites and those who practiced bestiality. Can you imagine a 10-year-old finding that out? Well, I began to act out, and puberty hit HARD and by 15 I was in reform school. Between the ages of 14 (when I finally stood up to my father) and 19 (when I left home), I only had girlfriends (no guys), wore my thick, blonde hair long (down to my ass at one point), and lived life on the fringe of high school in either drama class or music. I played no sports having had quite enough of boys’ locker rooms when my father insisted on me playing hockey (age 7–10) — I freakin’ hated it — they were revolting. Puberty was also the time when my parents, concerned over my generally withdrawn attitude (for some strange reason), took me to various shrinks and psychologists. However, I was way too smart (135 IQ) to tell them anything juicy, and told them what they wanted to hear. Looking back I’ve often wondered what a mistake that really was. Maybe if I had opened up, things may have been different.

Anyway, my girlfriends and I used to skip school and go to one of their houses to watch soaps, smoke cigarettes and eventually cannabis. All of them knew me as “super sensitive” and “girl-like” and most people thought I was gay. Knowing how sick and twisted I was (remember the Psycho-Sexual Disorder I suffered from?), I never opened up to anyone. I was always getting “come onto” by gays… problem was, I was definitely not gay. That would have been so easy. Being gay. No, I was a sicko, undeserving of love or any kind of close human contact.

You want more? Ask, and maybe I’ll open up about my days in Vancouver’s West End, and how I “came out” there.

Okay, maybe I should have just quoted this part:
However, I was way too smart (135 IQ) to tell them anything juicy, and told them what they wanted to hear.
 
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