Sperg about race realism here - So we can stop shitting up the community watch thread

[Trappy]

The best part about this thread is being reassured that 'race realists' are too dumb to ever enact any kind of segregatory legislation

The race denier argument atm is "Africans do poorly in the modern day West because ancient Africans didn't want/need to invent wheels/architecture/animal domestication and also vague undefinable socioeconomic factors that don't apply to white people or asians for some reason" but it's the people laughing at that ridiculous mega cope that are the dumb ones

lol ok

 

[ES 148]

lol ok

 

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The race denier argument atm is "Africans do poorly in the modern day West because ancient Africans didn't want/need to invent wheels/architecture/animal domestication and also vague undefinable socioeconomic factors that don't apply to white people or asians for some reason"

It's largely irrelevant, and intended to tie honest people up in worthless arguments. Are Africans the way they are because of the curse of Ham, or because of different evolutionary pressures? Obviously the second, but whatever the explanation, it does not alter the fact that even blacks who are the children of the well-off, and the children of seemingly well-creditionalled blacks, grossly underperform very poor whites in tests of cognitive ability.

It's not an indication of individual value, or that whites are meant to rule over blacks. It's just a clear difference that disproves all this 'disparate impact' horseshit and suggests that different ethnies should be permitted to go their own way.

 

[Cilleystring]

It doesn't matter what race you are, as long as we're all the same religion - Peter Griffin

 

[Unog]

Race realism is utter bunk and anyone who actually believes in it is exceptional. Culture is the real problem at hand and you can't judge entire countries and continents based on what their descendants in the United States are like.

I can believe that culture is the root problem of black america without denying both empirical evidence and common sense.

It's not an indication of individual value, or that whites are meant to rule over blacks.

No, you can't say that, because then that invalidates the attempts of people who feel all icky about the reality of the situation trying to heap their guilt over viewing people with lower I.Q.s as inherently inferior onto people who don't, and we can't have that!

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

It doesn't matter what race you are, as long as we're all the same religion - Peter Griffin

Bob Dobbs agrees.

I'm still waiting for the people carrying on about IQ differences to explain the relation to genetics, to clarify what their solutions are, and to confirm what the racial purity policies will define as human, subhuman, non-human, animal, etc.

 

[tuscangarder]

Are you incapable of following more than a single sentence at once? Here, I'll bullet point it for you:

1. Wild animals are wild
2. Wild animals outside Africa were wild when non-Africans broke those animals in
3. While non-Africans would be perfectly capable of breaking in zebras, etc, as well, and have done so with individual animals in many, many cases, there would be very little reason to do so as part of a breeding programme rather than a hobby, given there are other animals that already get the job done

You are aware of the basic facts in regards discussions about animal domestication like the successful Soviet program to domesticate those foxes, right? That only took a few generations to deliver serious improvements, admittedly with far higher tech levels than the people who domesticated modern farm animals had to work with.

Europeans actually did attempt to domesticate Zebras because Zebras were immune to tropical diseases that would kill the domesticated horses that Europeans brought to Africa. They never succeeded in domesticating the Zebra. The Zebras were too uncontrollable.

Some animals are impossible to domesticate. There are some Zebras that have been raised around humans and might tolerate them, but they are nothing like a domesticated horse. They won't listen to you, are prone to aggression, and are not dependable on being any sort of work aid.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Daily reminder that the Confederacy were traitors, lost the war, and the mind boggles as to why you haven't summarily executed yourself on your own fucking edge yet

Traitors to whom? They were loyal to their states and their government (the CSA).

Anyone in the US who spergs about racial superiority is a moron. Doesn't matter if they're white,black,brown,red or yellow we're all crossbred mutts.

THIS! There is literally no difference between a white trash redneck and ghetto hoodrat.

Speak for yourself, nigger. I’ve had genetic testing (it paired me to a relative, so I know it’s legitimate) and I came back 100% European, 99% Northern European.

The test also lets you see other people’s scores and most White Americans come back 95% European AT LEAST, often more like 98%. What remains is a coin toss between Indian and Black.

They tend to be, except for Yankeefilth, almost all British/Irish/German. Yankeefilth have notably more Italian and on rare occasions you can find somebody with more exotic strains of European.

 

[Autocrat]

Some animals are impossible to domesticate. There are some Zebras that have been raised around humans and might tolerate them, but they are nothing like a domesticated horse. They won't listen to you, are prone to aggression, and are not dependable on being any sort of work aid.

All animals can eventually be domesticated. Kill the top 50% aggressive in every litter. Eventually, particularly if memories can get passed on in animals other than mice, they will be domesticated.

Think about it this way. You live 45 miles from the nearest water source and you know nothing of digging wells and your village elder wont let you move. You see zebra around.
An industrious tribesman would stalk zebra, wait a few months after one gives birth, and kill it. Take the babies. Raise the babies to pull tiny carts around the village. Hit it with a stick every time it veers off course and give it food when it doesn't. Kill those that wont learn.
You now have at least one zebra that will pull your cart. This frees the time up for 20 village women, and their labor can be put elsewhere.

Obviously you can train zebras. Plenty of europeans have done it. The idea is to stick with it until the aggression is bred out.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

>blah blah
>docile cattle white privilege

Cattle was bred over multitude of generations from mean 6ft high murder machines with 3ft horns, weighing in over a ton - aurochs.

Sauce: https://www.thoughtco.com/auroch-1093172

Wild horses weren't docile either, sebra domestication was just not cost effective and frankly necessary for whites to take further than proof of concept, but it would have been done if we had these beasts in our homelands.

 

[tuscangarder]

All animals can eventually be domesticated. Kill the top 50% aggressive in every litter. Eventually, particularly if memories can get passed on in animals other than mice, they will be domesticated.

Think about it this way. You live 45 miles from the nearest water source and you know nothing of digging wells and your village elder wont let you move. You see zebra around.
An industrious tribesman would stalk zebra, wait a few months after one gives birth, and kill it. Take the babies. Raise the babies to pull tiny carts around the village. Hit it with a stick every time it veers off course and give it food when it doesn't. Kill those that wont learn.
You now have at least one zebra that will pull your cart. This frees the time up for 20 village women, and their labor can be put elsewhere.

Obviously you can train zebras. Plenty of europeans have done it. The idea is to stick with it until the aggression is bred out.

All animals are not able to be domesticated. They have to be able to easily breed and survive in captivity. Pandas or Cheetahs have very low reproductive rate in human captivity. Possible even near 0 without moden human technology. This makes them impossible to domesticate. Cheetahs were actually attempted to be domesticated but failed due to this reason. A Great White Shark would never be able to be domesticated because they all die in human captivity and lack the type of brain required for domestication. A hippo cannot be domesticated because they are far too aggressive and territorial to be around. There are a myriad of other animals with other reasonings why some animals could never be and never will be domesticated.

No animals were domesticated by ancient humans in the format you are describing. Humans didn't go out and capture animals in hopes of domesticating them for work. They didn't have the concept of "domestication". Eurasian horses were originally hunted and then people started catching them for food. Domestication occurred by accident, a result of keeping wild horses for food. This is also how we got the domestic pig. The domestication process takes much longer than a few generations. Eurasian horses had a natural social structure making them far more likely to actually be domesticated. They have the genetic pre-deposition for "listening to a master".

You're making this seem like a 1, 2, 3, done type of scenario. You're also viewing a domestication process through the lens of a modern human with the concept of domestication.

Catching a wild Zebra without injuring it is incredibly difficult, and you'd have to catch more than one.

1. They are extremely aggressive.

2. They have a ducking reflex that makes them very hard to lasso.

3, They have no natural social structure. They will never think of you as a "master" because this social structure does not occur in Zebras like it did in wild horses or wolves. This makes them naturally prone to not listening to human commands. They have no concept of an "authority" figure.

If Zebras were able to be domesticated, the Europeans would have accomplished it. They couldn't do it. These are people that had the concept and financial motivation of domestication in mind.

And you can train a Zebra to the same extent you can train a lion. They are unpredictable and are dangerous to even be around. Their kick will fracture your skull, and they are prone to kicking and biting people, they injure a lot of people that work around them.

>blah blah
>docile cattle white privilege

Cattle was bred over multitude of generations from mean 6ft high murder machines with 3ft horns, weighing in over a ton - aurochs.

Sauce: https://www.thoughtco.com/auroch-1093172

Wild horses weren't docile either, sebra domestication was just not cost effective and frankly necessary for whites to take further than proof of concept, but it would have been done if we had these beasts in our homelands.

No one knows the aggressiveness of wild horses, as they don't exist anymore. However, aggressiveness is not the main reason why Zebras were never domesticated. It is because they lack the concept of a social structure and will not listen to people. Aurochs had a natural social structure as do modern cattle. Zebras being hyper aggressive on top of lacking the ability and willingness to reliably take commands is the reason. Whites tried and had a financial and practical reason to domesticate Zebras and they could not. Some animals are not compatible with domestication. Looking at this from a racial perspective is just retarded, this has nothing to even do with humans. It has to do with animal biology.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

to clarify what their solutions are,

The answers the same no matter what. You can’t let blacks rule themselves. It ends in disaster every single time.

 

[Autocrat]

All animals are not able to be domesticated. They have to be able to easily breed and survive in captivity. Pandas or Cheetahs have very low reproductive rate in human captivity. Possible even near 0 without moden human technology. This makes them impossible to domesticate. Cheetahs were actually attempted to be domesticated but failed due to this reason. A Great White Shark would never be able to be domesticated because they all die in human captivity and lack the type of brain required for domestication. A hippo cannot be domesticated because they are far too aggressive and territorial to be around. There are a myriad of other animals with other reasonings why some animals could never be and never will be domesticated.

No animals were domesticated by ancient humans in the format you are describing. Humans didn't go out and capture animals in hopes of domesticating them for work. They didn't have the concept of "domestication". Eurasian horses were originally hunted and then people started catching them for food. Domestication occurred by accident, a result of keeping wild horses for food. This is also how we got the domestic pig. The domestication process takes much longer than a few generations. Eurasian horses had a natural social structure making them far more likely to actually be domesticated. They have the genetic pre-deposition for "listening to a master".

You're making this seem like a 1, 2, 3, done type of scenario. You're also viewing a domestication process through the lens of a modern human with the concept of domestication.

Catching a wild Zebra without injuring it is incredibly difficult, and you'd have to catch more than one.

1. They are extremely aggressive.

2. They have a ducking reflex that makes them very hard to lasso.

3, They have no natural social structure. They will never think of you as a "master" because this social structure does not occur in Zebras like it did in wild horses or wolves. This makes them naturally prone to not listening to human commands. They have no concept of an "authority" figure.

If Zebras were able to be domesticated, the Europeans would have accomplished it. They couldn't do it. These are people that had the concept and financial motivation of domestication in mind.

And you can train a Zebra to the same extent you can train a lion. They are unpredictable and are dangerous to even be around. Their kick will fracture your skull, and they are prone to kicking and biting people, they injure a lot of people that work around them.

Did you just watch that video and turn your brain off? Did you even read my post? Reasonably, you can stalk zebras and grab the babies. Even that video doesn't claim zebras are impossible to domesticate. It implies they haven't been domesticated because it's more trouble than it's worth, which I disagree with because it is obviously worth it. They failed to do so because they had an idiotic culture.

Europeans have tamed zebras. A tamed zebra would have absolutely been an asset to Africans. Domestication is a matter of breeding them as well. What's more likely? That breeding was somehow impossible for them to do, that zebras are some magic species that don't follow normal genetic patterns because God made them special, or the Europeans just said fuck it and went back to the horses they already domesticated?

Why are you coping so hard?

In 100 years, white man will have domesticated Zebras.

Much less if they get proactive selective with breeding and culling.

Gilbert's Bar G Ranch - Watusi and Zebra

Even if they didn't have the foresight for what these animals could be used for, please tell me how a steady meat supply doesn't seem like a very obvious benefit. Over time they could've built up their heard. Then, if they ever got around to inventing a fucking wheel lol, they would've figured they could make a zebra pull the cart instead of their wives. Eventually they would've had large, domesticated horse variants.

>blah blah
>docile cattle white privilege

Cattle was bred over multitude of generations from mean 6ft high murder machines with 3ft horns, weighing in over a ton - aurochs.

Sauce: https://www.thoughtco.com/auroch-1093172

Wild horses weren't docile either, sebra domestication was just not cost effective and frankly necessary for whites to take further than proof of concept, but it would have been done if we had these beasts in our homelands.

I just want to sperg for a second over my vast appreciation for the never-ending ingenuity of man. It is truly, fucking insane.

 

[AF 802]

lol imagine being this insecure about your own god damn race, blame zionist jews one more time

 

[Autocrat]

P.S.
>a wheel is useless without a beast of burden

Let's just cope some more and pretend it's more efficient to have your wife carry things on her head.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

P.S.
>a wheel is useless without a beast of burden
Ver archivo adjunto 850961

Let's just cope some more and pretend it's more efficient to have your wife carry things on her head.

If she's busy carrying things on her head that means she ain't nagging you, amirite fellas?

 

[tuscangarder]

Did you just watch that video and turn your brain off? Did you even read my post? Reasonably, you can stalk zebras and grab the babies. Even that video doesn't claim zebras are impossible to domesticate. It implies they haven't been domesticated because it's more trouble than it's worth, which I disagree with because it is obviously worth it. They failed to do so because they had an idiotic culture.

Europeans have tamed zebras. A tamed zebra would have absolutely been an asset to Africans. Domestication is a matter of breeding them as well. What's more likely? That breeding was somehow impossible for them to do, that zebras are some magic species that don't follow normal genetic patterns because God made them special, or the Europeans just said fuck it and went back to the horses they already domesticated?

Why are you coping so hard?

In 100 years, white man will have domesticated Zebras.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dvJc22bl2acMuch less if they get proactive selective with breeding and culling.

Gilbert's Bar G Ranch - Watusi and Zebra

Even if they didn't have the foresight for what these animals could be used for, please tell me how a steady meat supply doesn't seem like a very obvious benefit. Over time they could've built up their heard. Then, if they ever got around to inventing a fucking wheel lol, they would've figured they could make a zebra pull the cart instead of their wives. Eventually they would've had large, domesticated horse variants.



I just want to sperg for a second over my vast appreciation for the never-ending ingenuity of man. It is truly, fucking insane.

I don't know if you are pretending to be dumb or just incapable of understanding domestication. Do you think that zebra farm is the first one to exist? Euros had those 100s of years ago, when they first attempted to domesticate the Zebra. It didn't work. According to you we should have already of had domesticated Zebras. Selective breeding does not change everything about an animal. The nature and biology of the animal has to be compatible. People see zebras and they equate it to a Eurasian domesticated horse. They act nothing alike. They aren't even that closesly related. Zebras are literally retarded. A tame zebra is as useful as a tame lion. A lion might jump if you train it it to, but for how long before it throws a deadly temper tantrum? Or decides to not listen. Why aren't lions domesticated?

And I could care less about sperg racial IQ arguments. My position is that it is gay to obsess about race and generally only weirdos do. That's about it. My argument is soley about animal biology, not a race measuring contest. However it is odd that you keep ignoring the fact that euros attempted to domesticate the zebra multiple times and failed. Why are you ignoring this? You are the one that is coping.

Just admit you are wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about. Your understanding of the topic is rather low, just a post ago you claimed that all animals could be domesticated.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

And I could care less about sperg racial IQ arguments. My position is that it is gay to obsess about race and generally only weirdos do.

Types thousands of words about domesticating zebras on Kiwi Farms and then calls others spergs and weirdos.

My sides.

 

[Autocrat]

I don't know if you are pretending to be dumb or just incapable of understanding domestication. Do you think that zebra farm is the first one to exist? Euros had those 100s of years ago, when they first attempted to domesticate the Zebra. It didn't work. According to you we should have already of had domesticated Zebras. Selective breeding does not change everything about an animal. The nature and biology of the animal has to be compatible. People see zebras and they equate it to a Eurasian domesticated horse. They act nothing alike. They aren't even that closesly related. Zebras are literally exceptional. A tame zebra is as useful as a tame lion. A lion might jump if you train it it to, but for how long before it throws a deadly temper tantrum? Or decides to not listen. Why aren't lions domesticated?

And I could care less about sperg racial IQ arguments. My position is that it is gay to obsess about race and generally only weirdos do. That's about it. My argument is soley about animal biology, not a race measuring contest. However it is odd that you keep ignoring the fact that euros attempted to domesticate the zebra multiple times and failed. Why are you ignoring this? You are the one that is coping.

Just admit you are wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about. Your understanding of the topic is rather low, just a post ago you claimed that all animals could be domesticated.

First of all, a zebra is dramatically less dangerous than a lion. Please quit comparing the two.
Second, yes a creature's nature and physicality can be completely changed with breeding. Zebras haven't been bred for the past hundred years. Taming them was a fad in the 1800's.

It blows my mind how you can say with conviction that zebra's would've been useless to africans. They can be kept in fucking enclosures you god damn moron. How is a steady supply of meat useless?
Some people could gather grass with the massive amount of time saved from hunting.
From there, you geld a docile baby zebra of your choosing and train it to obey.

You can't say that a steady source of meat and a thing to move carts is a bad idea. Just like you can't say carts are a bad idea, when they can be pulled by people alone.

And yes, I stand by the notion that any animal can be domesticated— and without editing their genes directly. Whether or not it's economically viable is another thing. But what do you think evolution is in the first place? Domestication is taking evolution into our hands

In the past 60 years, they've made a friendly fox in Russia. Friendliness is only one aspect of domestication, and I don't think an animal can be conventionally domesticated in an environment that isn't domestic. That people don't live in. Right now the foxes are raised in cages and closures which doesn't reflect the way we live.

 

[lurk_moar]

Africans have lower IQs because the higher IQ humans left.

Even though on average Africans and aboriginals have lower IQs and whites and Asians have higher IQs, I believe that intelligence has more to do with nurture, nutrition, parenting, personality, motivation, and culture. Part of the intelligence equation has to do with genetics.

On the other hand, there are dumbfuck Asians and genius Africans out there.