General Wrestling Discussion

Mostly, I liked the show.

The preshow was dogshit. I don't know what kinda sexual favors the Dangerhair Librarian's providing to which bigshot, but she must be doing a really good job of it; because she wrestles like Kelly Kelly, and the gimmick is clownshoes.

Nakazawa has major go-away heat with me. He's exactly the kinda wrestler a relative always had to walk in on right when they were almost convinced wrestling wasn't the a lower form of entertainment than reality television.

I don't know if Nyla Rose is a dude or just that ugly; but pro-wrestling is the least offensive sport for someone who used to be a man to compete against women in, Nyla can actually wrestle, and Nyla's being booked like a proper monster heel. I've got no complaints about Nyla Rose, snd sincerely hope she squashes the Dangerhair Librarian for at least five weeks in a row in matches lasting no longer than three minutes.

MJF is awesome. He's like Jared Kushner, but with shoulders, and you can picture him inseminating a woman.

I've gained a new appreciation for Cody Rhodes watching AEW. His offense isn't as interesting as guys like Bryan or AJ, but he knows how to tell fuckin' stories as well as anyone in the business. I'm digging Darby Allin, too. He'd never make it in WWE. He's way too tiny. But he can wrestle a believable match, which is not something I expect from a former pro-skateboarder.

Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks are way too phony. I grant that thry're over, but that Triple Hadouken and that Meltzer Driver on the floor that never happened were disgustingly false.

The unsanctioned match was excellent. Sure, they could've done more to sell it as unsanctioned, but dropping the lights and puttibg the match at the end of the show added something for me I greatly appreciated.

Much as I don't like Kenny Omega, he's over, and I'm interested to see him feud with Moxley.

Not a fan of that chair shot at all, given what we now know about concussions I'm glad WWE banned them and AEW should follow suit.
Cody didn't take that shot to the head. He took it in the shoulder. He just sold it really well.

On a related note, could David Benoit still have a chance in pro wrestling in spite of what happened? I don't know if anyone has ever seen Chris's eldest son on Twitter but dude shares a lot of wrestling content and has a major love for the business. Thing is, comparisons to his father would already be inevitable even if not for his father's infamy in death.

Not to mention dude looks exactly like Chris:

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So could there ever be a day where he has a spot on the roster if he earned it? Or would the way his dad's life ended hang so low over his career that it'd be over before it started?
Christ, this kid looks almost as much like his dad as Dominic Gutiérrez.

I don't like to double-post, but sometimes it's warranted: If bookers could be restrained with him, bringing up his background without being exploitaitive about a family annihilation, I'd be fine with David Benoit wrestling.

But he needs to stay far the fuck away from WWE. They've exploited more deaths than Fritz Von Erich.
 
Reminder that TJ Perkins is back on Impact Wrestling
Hopefully, Josh isn't a faggot to him this time.

Years ago, the old management wanted TJP to have a gimmick where he has some kind of personality disorder. TJP wasn't cool with it and publicly complained about it on twitter. He knew someone with the condition suggested for the gimmick, so he figured it would have been disrespectful for him to accept the gimmick. In response to one of his tweets, Josh stooped to a new low, telling him this.

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When TJP won the Cruiserweight Classic and became the Cruiserweight champion, numerous people made sure to laugh at Josh. Time flies. Josh hasn't been a faggot like this in a long time. TJP got booked into oblivion soon after getting called up to the main roster. And now he's back on Impact.
 
but Dominic is like ten feet taller than Rey and looks nothing like Eddie
I actually liked this angle. I hadn't seen Rey without his mask, and him, Eddie, and Dom sold the hell out of it.

Turns out, that's 'cause Eddie really did have a child outside of wedlock while still married to Vicki during the height of his drinking and recreational-drug abuse. But it was his daughter, she was adopted by Eddie and Vicki, and they never kept it a secret.

Eddie had serious issues, but he was fundamentally a really great guy. I wish he was still alive.
 
Meltzer and Alvarez confirmed that the chair Cody took to the head was gimmicked. Apparently the gimmicked part broke away awkwardly, and the steel ended up wrapping around his head, causing the gash.
 
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I disliked the FyterFest parody concept and thought everything apart from the Best Friends/SCU/Private Party match was bad and very bush league, including repackaging Super Smash Brothers as Dark Order and doing...whatever the stupidity they did at DoN and FyterFest was. Just so cheesy and 90s and not in a good way.

I wanted to hate the triple threat match but they won me over and after that I was sold on the rest of the night. Moxley is a SICK FUCK.

Looking forward to seeing their next 2 big events and Dynamite on October even more than before tonight, so the PPV did its job. Can't complain about something shown on B/R for free when its of that caliber. Not spectacular, but pleasing.
 
I'm happy someone else mentioned it, but as good as the Super Smash Brothers are, this Dark Order thing isn't working. I don't think either has the look to pass as a monster tag team like they're being portrayed. Maybe they will start getting traction once they are wrestling or once they've got TV time to help get things over but they're a ways off from that. We're probably getting a few more shows of Dark Order angles to dead silence.
 
I'm happy someone else mentioned it, but as good as the Super Smash Brothers are, this Dark Order thing isn't working. I don't think either has the look to pass as a monster tag team like they're being portrayed. Maybe they will start getting traction once they are wrestling or once they've got TV time to help get things over but they're a ways off from that. We're probably getting a few more shows of Dark Order angles to dead silence.
The Dark Order absolutely reeks of "local indy gimmick that belongs in a VFW in front of 30 people".
 
I’ve been fairly reluctant to check out the AEW shows. If Nacho Man’s posts are true and the Funko Pop collecting nerd millennial crowd is the demo they want, then I’m really not about it among other things. However, I now have come to terms that no wrestling company is perfect. I willing to give it a shot, but I’m worried that it’ll be all lot of that obnoxious “other company” shit Impact did during that sad attempt at a new Monday Night War. For the record, I watch WWE and I try to keep with the rest of the wrestling world. I’m quite familiar with the AEW roster and have seen matches from the overwhelming majority of them.
 
AEW did the goofball gamer pandering on the pre-show, the PPV itself was good.

The first 45 minutes of this RAW feel different, the Braun/Lashley explosion segment, Samoa Joe making Kofi pass out, etc.

Edit: The run-ins to set up 6 mans an a 2 out of 3 falls match on every show is the pits, though. I think their reasoning for it is something I don't follow,they can structure the show better than this.
 
Jesus Christ Heyman.

You must be talking about the Seth/Becky and Maria/"Maria's Bitch" segment. Mike Kanellis is an unstable guy with a recent drug abuse history. He's basically fresh out of rehab. What are they gonna do, haze him like this for years? Might as well put a bullet in the poor cocksucker's head, my Lord.

Top 10 Uncomfortable WWE segment for me already and I don't think its recency bias.
 
Speaking of Austin, on a recent episode of his podcast, he had Mark Henry on. Henry buried Ahmed Johnson, and Austin finally responded to the allegation that he's racist.
"That guy has said things about me that were untrue," Austin said. "Not a fan either. Thank you for attesting to [me not being a racist]. I've never been able to address that because I've never had the- never needed to. That's a completely fabricated story and is complete horse sh*t and I've maintained my silence and this is the first time ever I've addressed it or talked about it."

Henry responded by doubling down on his statements about Johnson and defended Steve Austin's claims.

"I would attest that you are not a racist," Henry said. "You ain't have to validate [Johnson's] stupidity. I'm glad we can address it because the source that it came from was not valid enough for anybody to believe it anyways."

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Speaking of Austin, on a recent episode of his podcast, he had Mark Henry on. Henry buried Ahmed Johnson, and Austin finally responded to the allegation that he's racist.


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Crap. What Henry said on what Ahmed almost did:

Henry also told a story of how Ahmed Johnson attempted to drop pills into Henry's drink while at dinner. Henry admitted that someone trying to distort his clean and drug free life infuriated him.

"He tried to pill me one night. I went out to eat with him and Fatu. I turned my drink up and there's two Somas in my water. I don't drink alcohol. Two Soma's could have killed me for all I know. I said, 'Look guys, who put this in my drink?' Fatu said, 'Look man, I'm not saying nothing about nobody else but I didn't do it.' And there's only two of them sitting there. I said, 'Don't finish your meal because I'm going outside and we're going to handle this outside.' I waited thirty forty minutes. I just threw his and Fatu's bags out of the car and went on my way to Miami. So, I never liked Ahmed since. He never apologized or anything. I'm a guy who has based my life off being drug free and you're going to try and pill me? You go to prison for that now."

But the way, in spite of this, something about his story doesn't add up, I’m not trying to question the legitimacy of the story one way or the other, but I just don’t recall any massively long injury absence for Simmons in that time frame. It’s only about a two year window where both Simmons and Johnson were in the same company (Simmons debuts mid-1996, Johnson gets released in mid-1998 ), feuding with each other just about the entire time, and it’s Johnson who spends a lot of that run injured, not Simmons. Not doubting that the injury happened and that Simmons was pissed off about it, I just don’t remember Simmons being out nine months, it had to have been a lot shorter. Didn't Simmons get injured fairly early on, which put an end to that terrible gladiator gimmick he was doing, with Sunny as his manager? I know he was feuding with Ahmed Johnson at that time. But I don't remember the time frames for any of that.
 
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Dirt sheets say Heyman pushed strongly for Samoa Joe to choke out Kofi Kingston and become champion at Extreme Rules. He has also requested that Baron Corbin lose at Extreme Rules and get pushed down the card to the Intercontinental Championship or tag team scene in order to elevate AJ Styles after his heel turn into RAW's marquee heel. He also wants Shane off RAW after the Roman feud wraps up so that AJ Styles and Samoa Joe can get screen time as RAW's top heels and don't get their thunder stolen.

The McMahon family is pushing back on this, they want Kofi to retain at Extreme Rules and think Baron Corbin is "right where he needs to be" and between now and Extreme Rules, Vince is going to have it penciled in for Corbin to be champ and change his mind, then be back on Corbin as champ, change his mind, etc. They're also going to be pissy about a suggestion that Shane's heel run has been the dictionary definition of go-away heat and that Heyman doesn't want it stinking up RAW anymore.

Those would all be lovely things to happen, though. I hope they are true and it happens.
 
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