Shane Holmberg / Shane Presley Holmberg - The Containment Cell for The Breaker of Chairs, Eater of Shoes, Groomer of His Child Bride

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I bet when this is all said and done and they lose this lawsuit because let's face it, they never had a goddamn chance, they are gonna try to make a petition to oust the judge assigned to the lawsuit because he supports rape culture or some dumb bullshit like that.
even though its a jury trial it could probably still happen.
 

Competent lawyers lead with their strongest arguments. And competent lawyers don't completely fail even to mention their strongest arguments.

The opening papers are what define the rest of the case. There isn't a "we're saving a secret argument for later." If you don't bring it up in your opening, you don't get to use it. Real life isn't a Phoenix Wright game.

Methheads and brain-damaged people can understand the law better than Shane.


Chris-Chan has vastly more practical and actual knowledge of how the courts work than Shane. That's not even an exaggeration or hyperbole. He actually literally does and has enjoyed more success in his legal defenses than MoRon and crazy Jamie will.
 
Competent lawyers lead with their strongest arguments. And competent lawyers don't completely fail even to mention their strongest arguments.

The opening papers are what define the rest of the case. There isn't a "we're saving a secret argument for later." If you don't bring it up in your opening, you don't get to use it. Real life isn't a Phoenix Wright game.




Chris-Chan has vastly more practical and actual knowledge of how the courts work than Shane. That's not even an exaggeration or hyperbole. He actually literally does and has enjoyed more success in his legal defenses than MoRon and crazy Jamie will.
How embarrassing must it be to be dumber than Chris-Chan?
 
No, I figured it out half an hour ago. Shane said in a replay to Nick's intern that the C&D requested that ron delete tweets and simultaneously not delete tweets. I speculated that he was referring to a notice to preserve evidence, which he confirmed was sent along with something else which he called a C&D. Since the notice to preserve was sent, it doesn't make sense to send a C&D because half of the claims are past damage, and you're already in the process of suing the guy. The "C&D" was a request to retract statements, which gives Ron and co. the opportunity to mitigate damages by retracting defamatory statements, which puts you in a good light with the court. As soon as I mentioned this, I got the silent tweetment from Shane, which is what he does whenever you hit the nail on the head. Shane's interpretation of the law is weaker than a student's in a mock trial class.
But Nick said last night that Shane was claiming Ty sent him a C&D on behalf of Nick. Nothing to do with Ron at all.
 
There is no scenario where they don't come out on top.

Settle the lawsuit? Vic was going to lose.
Issue a retraction? Vic bullied them into it with his GoFundMe money.
Lose the lawsuit? The justice system is broken.

not if he settles Shattering-style and requires a public apology/admission of guilt from the settling parties.
 
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Whataboutism, a sure sign that a person's argument has failed.
 
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Whataboutism, a sure sign that a person's argument has failed.

Ty put in enough evidence to justify the merit of his claims. Unlike the original answer, the evidence presented in the original petition was from verified sources and sufficient to claim defamation and TI. The original answer was hot garbage. Keep it up shane!
 
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Whataboutism, a sure sign that a person's argument has failed.
B-b-but he did didn't he? Pretty sure the rest of the evidence needed to strengthen the case Ty doesn't have access to, which is why he asked for their emails and stuff for discovery.

Shane is just so fucking dumb it actually boils my piss a little, every day I hope he gets sucked into this in a legal capacity and has his entire life ruined.
 
not if he settles Shattering-style and requires a public apology/admission of guilt from the settling parties.

Monica and Jamie halfheartedly reading a prepared statement on camera wouldn't change the fact that Vic is guilty. PULL would understand that they don't really mean it. We all know that the justice system isn't on the side of victims and there are financial considerations in fighting a frivolous lawsuit.
 
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Whataboutism, a sure sign that a person's argument has failed.

[Obligatory Shane is fucking dumb comment.]

Evidence and claims and arguments are two different things. If you don't put your defenses in your answer you waive them. "It wasn't defamation because here's this PULL thread" isn't even an argument.
 
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