Victoria police raid wrong building, assault innocent 'man'.

Ahh, faggot bashing. The sport of kings. Well done lads!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05...logise-hares-and-hyenas-fitzroy-raid/11105106

Melbourne police break man's arm in mistaken arrest at Fitzroy's Hares & Hyenas bookshop
By Damian McIver
Updated about an hour ago

PHOTO: The apartment that was raided is attached to queer community bookshop Hares & Hyenas. (ABC News: Damian McIver)
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There are fears an innocent man may lose the use of his left arm after he was seriously injured during a botched police raid in Melbourne.

Key points:

• The arrest was the result of mistaken identity, police say
• Officers were searching for a man suspected of a home invasion and carjacking
• In a statement, police say they "acknowledge the distress this situation has caused the victim", who remains in hospital

The operation in Fitzroy, in Melbourne's inner north, is now the subject of a Victoria Police internal investigation.

Residents said officers raided their apartment, which adjoins LGBT community bookshop and cafe Hares & Hyenas on Johnston Street, about 2:00am today.

"The police broke in through our garage as they thought that an armed member of a Lebanese gang was inside," said bookshop co-owners Rowland Thomson and Crusader Hillis in a post on Facebook.

"At no stage did they identify themselves as police. They just stormed into a dark room shining torches and it was impossible to identify them as police."

They said another man, Nik Dimopoulos, ran from the building "thinking it was an anti-gay home invasion", and was subsequently arrested on the street.

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"He had his hands tethered behind his back way beyond what can be endured," the co-owners said.

"He could only see boots and rifles and was assuming he was going to be bashed or shot. He said he thought he was about to be killed."

They said Mr Dimopoulos is "now in hospital with the likelihood of losing the use of his left arm, which is broken in several places".

He also sustained major bruising on his head after being thrown onto the footpath.

"The surgeon described the [arm] injury as 12 on a scale of one to 10."

Victoria Police confirmed Mr Dimopoulos was mistakenly identified as the suspect in a home invasion and carjacking case.

Officers had been tracking a stolen car which led them to the Fitzroy address, where police say they saw a man fitting the description of their suspect.

"The male was arrested on a roadway after leaving through a front door," Victoria Police said in a statement.

"The male sustained serious injuries as a result of the arrest and was subsequently conveyed to hospital where he remains.

"The man police arrested was mistakenly identified as the suspect police were searching for that had fled the stolen vehicle nearby.

"Victoria Police acknowledge the distress this situation has caused the victim and the incident will be thoroughly investigated by Professional Standards Command."

 

[Y2K Baby]

I can't believe America could do this.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Man I just love how the cops are screwing up everywhere lately.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Man I just love how the cops are screwing up everywhere lately.

Authoritarians will go overboard as much as they get away with it. Authoritarianism is getting more popular worldwide, although the US is actually bucking that trend currently.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Authoritarians will go overboard as much as they get away with it. Authoritarianism is getting more popular worldwide, although the US is actually bucking that trend currently.

I mean, it's definitely here too, but I think we still have a glimmer of hope for eventually Old Yellering that shit. Getting fainter by the day, though.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Yeah, there’ll be a few careers stalled over this little affair.

The homo will get a big payout as well. Probably a couple of mill at least.

Cops protect their own most will probably receive suspension with pay at worst and disciplinary to go with it.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Man I just love how the cops are screwing up everywhere lately.

It's a big world and the press loves a good police brutality story. That's why we see it so often. Shit was much rougher back in the 50s-60s when cops giving difficult perps a dose of the old wood shampoo was the norm.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

It's a big world and the press loves a good police brutality story. That's why we see it so often. Shit was much rougher back in the 50s-60s when cops giving difficult perps a dose of the old wood shampoo was the norm.

It wasn't really acceptable then and it definitely isn't now. We are probably hearing about it more often perhaps in spite of a decreased incidence but I hold cops to a very high standard, seeing as they're imbued with a lot of power compared to Joe fucking Blow. I expect accountability and good conduct from any officer, and I expect officers who notice lapses in this to bring the full force of the law against transgressors in uniform.

You got that badge because you're supposed to be at least a little bit better than I am at keeping shit civilized. Disappoint your citizenry at your own peril, Officer Krupke. Do your job well or get the fuck out of my way and let me cover my own ass.

Spoiler: mild powerlevel

My grandfather was a former police officer. I liked him, but if I had found out he had abused his badge I would have written him off on the spot. No fucking excuse, ever. The agents of the law are beholden to the law.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

It wasn't really acceptable then and it definitely isn't now. We are probably hearing about it more often perhaps in spite of a decreased incidence but I hold cops to a very high standard, seeing as they're imbued with a lot of power compared to Joe fucking Blow. I expect accountability and good conduct from any officer, and I expect officers who notice lapses in this to bring the full force of the law against transgressors in uniform.

You got that badge because you're supposed to be at least a little bit better than I am at keeping shit civilized. Disappoint your citizenry at your own peril, Officer Krupke. Do your job well or get the fuck out of my way and let me cover my own ass.

Spoiler: mild powerlevel

My grandfather was a former police officer. I liked him, but if I had found out he had abused his badge I would have written him off on the spot. No fucking excuse, ever. The agents of the law are beholden to the law.

Uh, I got some bad news. Police policies were nowhere near as refined as they are now. There was a lot of stuff that was routine then that would probably get a cop kicked out now.

People forget that police officer is a relatively new profession. Police forces only began around the mid-1800's and were relatively weak and limited in scope for a long time. Before that policing was done by the part-time constabulary. Police didn't become common until 1900 or so.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Uh, I got some bad news. Police policies were nowhere near as refined as they are now. There was a lot of stuff that was routine then that would probably get a cop kicked out now.

People forget that police officer is a relatively new profession. Police forces only began around the mid-1800's and were relatively weak and limited in scope for a long time. Before that policing was done by the part-time constabulary. Police didn't become common until 1900 or so.

So we're coming up on a little over 150 years of the police being a thing, and standards kind of changing only as society told them "Hey, that shit's unacceptable"? Cool, so they're going to hear me and people like me loud and clear when I tell them that I don't care how far you've fucking come, I don't trust you any farther than I can throw you because I saw how you circled wagons for that dirtbag Noor and every other time a PD has closed ranks around a shitty fucking officer. Your True Blue Club don't mean shit to me, assholes. You're a public servant and you're going to fucking act like one.

I'm not kidding, either. They've failed miserably at doing so much as making me feel a TINY bit more secure ("hey, I just had someone try and kick down my front door and have a description of whodunit, can y'all take a report? Maybe? Oh, you'll maybe send a car by? That's it? Boy I sure do feel safe."), they give me shit for the damnedest things ("Yes, officer, I occasionally go on walks at night when I can't sleep and need to wind down. Yes, I live in the area. Can I go now?"). It's like they're the perfect combination of "never there when you need them and always crawling up your ass for stupid reasons instead of doing something useful".

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

So we're coming up on a little over 150 years of the police being a thing, and standards kind of changing only as society told them "Hey, that shit's unacceptable"? Cool, so they're going to hear me and people like me loud and clear when I tell them that I don't care how far you've fucking come, I don't trust you any farther than I can throw you because I saw how you circled wagons for that dirtbag Noor and every other time a PD has closed ranks around a shitty fucking officer. Your True Blue Club don't mean shit to me, assholes. You're a public servant and you're going to fucking act like one.

I'm not kidding, either. They've failed miserably at doing so much as making me feel a TINY bit more secure ("hey, I just had someone try and kick down my front door and have a description of whodunit, can y'all take a report? Maybe? Oh, you'll maybe send a car by? That's it? Boy I sure do feel safe."), they give me shit for the damnedest things ("Yes, officer, I occasionally go on walks at night when I can't sleep and need to wind down. Yes, I live in the area. Can I go now?"). It's like they're the perfect combination of "never there when you need them and always crawling up your ass for stupid reasons instead of doing something useful".

The cops forget that their "departmental policy" doesn't mean shit to civilians, and doesn't override actual laws. They're able to protect their shittiest members via naked extortion. The press and politicians are afraid to go against them because do you really want to get pulled over every single time you get in your car, harassed about your house, and have random amounts of random drugs keep showing up on your property?

And cops are necessary, at least, you need someone authorized to use force to keep the peace. But those people don't need free reign to do whatever they want. The cops aren't doing us a favor by dealing with crime, that's their job.

And cop sob stories about how hard the job is really ring false when you see the number of people trying to be a cop, when you see how much money the cops are making, when you see how the positions are given out as political favors...

And I don't hate cops. Many cops are great. Most are just fine. But it doesn't matter if the shitty ones are <1%, if the rest will immediately close ranks and become bad cops in defense of that <1%. They need to be told, no, you're not fucking special, do your job or let someone else do it.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

It's hot enough to boil a monkey's bum, Bruce.

The weather is filthier than a Springbok in a ruck, Sheila.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

The weather is filthier than a Springbok in a ruck, Sheila.

Hey, since we're talking about weird aussie sayings, in the song by men at work, "I come from a land down under", they say "Where women glow and men plunder"

Is that a saying in Australia, or were they taking liberties for the sake of rhyming?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

So we're coming up on a little over 150 years of the police being a thing, and standards kind of changing only as society told them "Hey, that shit's unacceptable"? Cool, so they're going to hear me and people like me loud and clear when I tell them that I don't care how far you've fucking come, I don't trust you any farther than I can throw you because I saw how you circled wagons for that dirtbag Noor and every other time a PD has closed ranks around a shitty fucking officer. Your True Blue Club don't mean shit to me, assholes. You're a public servant and you're going to fucking act like one.

I'm not kidding, either. They've failed miserably at doing so much as making me feel a TINY bit more secure ("hey, I just had someone try and kick down my front door and have a description of whodunit, can y'all take a report? Maybe? Oh, you'll maybe send a car by? That's it? Boy I sure do feel safe."), they give me shit for the damnedest things ("Yes, officer, I occasionally go on walks at night when I can't sleep and need to wind down. Yes, I live in the area. Can I go now?"). It's like they're the perfect combination of "never there when you need them and always crawling up your ass for stupid reasons instead of doing something useful".

I would prefer this conversation doesnt degrade into another police discussion pissing match where everyone airs their dirty laundry.

My point was that if you have beef now you really wouldn't have liked them pre-miranda. That it isn't getting worse. Policies and accountability are getting better. Despite what the sensationalized news says.

That doesn't make them perfect.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

I would prefer this conversation doesnt degrade into another police discussion pissing match where everyone airs their dirty laundry.

I agree, and furthermore, I can piss farther than anyone else here.

But now what are we supposed to talk about in this story about police raiding the wrong place and brutalizing the wrong person?

 

[Antique Rice]

Hey, since we're talking about weird aussie sayings, in the song by men at work, "I come from a land down under", they say "Where women glow and men plunder"

Is that a saying in Australia, or were they taking liberties for the sake of rhyming?

I don't recall that lyric, but I do remember it saying "men chunder," which is apparently slang for getting drunk and hurling?

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

I don't recall that lyric, but I do remember it saying "men chunder," which is apparently slang for getting drunk and hurling?

Why does "chunder" sound like a portmanteau?

EDIT: Shit, Urban Dictionary has a definition that actually makes sense and confirms portmanteau status.

Urban Dictionary: chunder

Chunder means to be sick, it originates from old seafareing days when sailers would get seasick and stick their head out of the porthole in their cabin. As they did this they would shout "Watch Under" to warn people in lower cabins of the forthcoming puke. Over the years this has evolved in Chunder.

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Why does "chunder" sound like a portmanteau?

EDIT: Shit, Urban Dictionary has a definition that actually makes sense and confirms portmanteau status.

Urban Dictionary: chunder

Chunder means to be sick, it originates from old seafareing days when sailers would get seasick and stick their head out of the porthole in their cabin. As they did this they would shout "Watch Under" to warn people in lower cabins of the forthcoming puke. Over the years this has evolved in Chunder.

www.urbandictionary.com

Yeah I had picked up on the chunder part, which is funny. But when do the women glow and men plunder? We're men at work even Australian?

 

[Antique Rice]

Yeah I had picked up on the chunder part, which is funny. But when do the women glow and men plunder? We're men at work even Australian?

Apparently yes, and one of the members did claim that the song was about Australians losing their cultural identity, and specifically used the word "plundered," so there we go.

Down Under (song) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Apparently yes, and one of the members did claim that the song was about Australians losing their cultural identity, and specifically used the word "plundered," so there we go.

Down Under (song) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah, ok, so the men go to the land down under to plunder it. Now the only mystery is, why are the women glowing? At least, everything I can find says the lyric is "Where women glow and men plunder".

 

[BF 388]

Men at Work were fined and forced to pay royalties a few years back, after a legal case found they’d copied an old bush song for land down under.

Kookaburra (song) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I don’t think there’s any specific meaning to ‘women glow’, other than to fit the cadence.