Culture Being An "Affluent Homeless" Is Becoming Popular. - Owning as little as possible and using other people's stuff is emerging as the answer to the millennial's economy.

tl:dr = The new hip thing is to own nothing except an IphoneX and a Macbook Pro, have a P.O. box and leech, borrow, co-share everything else. Because the NEW economy is instagram posts and experiences.




More young people are leaning into the rental or sharing economy — owning less of everything and renting and sharing a whole lot more. Housing, cars, music, workspaces. In some places, such as Los Angeles, this rental life has gone to an extreme.

Steven T. Johnson, 27, works in social media advertising and lives in Hollywood. He spends most of his days using things he does not own.
He takes a ride-share service to get to the gym; he does not own a car. At the gym, he rents a locker. He uses the gym's laundry service because he does not own a washing machine.

Johnson doesn't even have an apartment, actually. He rents a bed in a large room with other people who rent beds, for nights, weeks or months at a time, through a service called PodShare. All the residents share a kitchen and bathrooms. Johnson also rents a desk at WeWork, a coworking space.

And he says the only clothes he owns are two versions of the same outfit.

Johnson says he owns so little that he has even been able to get rid of his backpack. "I gave that up two months ago," he says.

He says that for him, this lifestyle isn't cumbersome or confusing. "That's what's great," he says. "When you don't own things, you don't have to keep track of them. You just show up."

He's part of a newish group of young people. He is educated and owns his own business. He could be considered well off, but he is also, in a way, homeless. By choice.

There are two big reasons for this shift: the price of housing and student loan debt. A little more than a third of millennials currently own homes, a rate lower than Generation X and baby boomers when they were the same age.

But is there something else going on as well? Does Johnson represent a fundamental shift in American capitalism as we know it?

Skyler Wang, a Ph.D. student at the University of California, Berkeley who studies the sharing economy, says even if young people own less and are less enamored with ownership than their parents may be, they still have a lot of stuff — it's just not tangible.

"I talked to a lot of minimalists," Wang says. "They're the type of people who love to couch-surf. They own like 30 things, but ... they hoard digitally. They have tons of photographs. They have thousands and thousands of Instagram posts."

They still live in an economy of stuff — it's just different stuff. It's experiences.

How do businesses deal with this? For starters, a lot more companies are getting into rentals. Even Ikea is starting to lease its furniture.

The outdoor chain REI announced recently it is vastly expanding its rental program for things like camping gear. Eric Artz, acting CEO of the company, says this requires a different kind of outreach.

"We're selling joy," he says. "We're selling inspiration when you get out on a trail or go for a bike ride. We're selling the adrenaline buzz at the end of a run, and we're just trying to enable that in any way we possibly can."

Juliet Schor, a sociologist at Boston College who studies the rental and sharing economies, says not everyone is in it for the same reasons. Some are doing it just for enjoyment. Some are doing it to move toward transactions that are less corporate and more personal. Others are willing to spend more for convenience.

But a lot rent and share because they're broke and they need to save money.

"I think it's a mistake to characterize them ... with one kind of economic orientation or orientation to money," Schor says.

That makes it really hard to predict whether renting and sharing is our long-term future, or just a fad — even for Johnson, who is totally plugged in to a rental life.

"It's not something that you can do forever, because you do need to have a place that you can genuinely point to and say, this is my home," he says.
 
That's some peak California shit right there - You're paying $980-$1400 a month to split a shitty open space filled with bunk beds with 29 other people. What is wrong with some of these people?

The average cost of apartments in the Bay Area is $3.5k a month, so this is actually not a bad idea if you want to save more money.
 
That's what sane broke people do when they get out of college, they get a cheap apartment with roommates. That way they have more than a bunk bed sized space and aren't sharing one room with thirty randos.
 
I'm no big city guy but I think it would be a bit saner to split an apartment 3 ways ($1,200/month) than to live in a podsquare with 29 roomates.
People in San Fransisco seem to have a fetish for just making themselves as miserable as possible. It's not enough to work 80 hours a week coding, you also need to deprive yourself of food with fasts and soylent. Then you can't buy anything fun because you're also an extreme minimalist committed to never owning anything. In the case this saves you enough money to actually afford a place to live, that might make you too comfortable, better move in with a bunch of random strangers instead. It's fucking weird.
 
Reading the article, I saw that those idiots are paying $900/month to live in a bunk bed. That's more than my mortgage.

Just to give some background as I live in LA a few neighborhoods south of the Hollywood guy in the article, but I'm paying $1150 a month just to rent a studio and live by myself here. To be fair it's in an old 1920's building and not in the best of neighborhoods but it's my own private place nonetheless.

So just for a meager $250 more these guys could live like actual human beings and have their own private spaces. :o

I can also confirm all those ride shares he does are going to add up fast. Uber and Lyft love getting you with congestion surcharges.
 
I think it's good for dirt poor pleb options to return to America, since the standard of living is going down without any solutions in sight, but it doesn't do any good to try and whitewash it with hipster "as seen on PBS!" bullshit. That pod house is just a novelty hive, it wouldn't work if you started putting born-and-bred poor people in it. Chinese knew what's up, that's why their bunk bed dorms have cages.
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People in San Fransisco seem to have a fetish for just making themselves as miserable as possible. It's not enough to work 80 hours a week coding, you also need to deprive yourself of food with fasts and soylent. Then you can't buy anything fun because you're also an extreme minimalist committed to never owning anything. In the case this saves you enough money to actually afford a place to live, that might make you too comfortable, better move in with a bunch of random strangers instead. It's fucking weird.
It's not weird, bigot, it's Trendy, Hip and, most importantly, Progressive and Woke
 
Asceticism is commendable, bumming is just societal cancer imo.
I think the distinction between the two is blurred by a lot of people. I tend to be a pretty simple in what I gave in my place. Mostly computer stuff, guns and gun accessories, books, vidya stuff, etc.

My sister and her husband are hoarders. Not at cwc levels but not too far behind. They could navigate their house.

There's a big difference in having a minimalist approach to owning stuff and being a creepy hipster who denies themselves basic luxuries like adequate living space.
 
People in San Fransisco seem to have a fetish for just making themselves as miserable as possible. It's not enough to work 80 hours a week coding, you also need to deprive yourself of food with fasts and soylent. Then you can't buy anything fun because you're also an extreme minimalist committed to never owning anything. In the case this saves you enough money to actually afford a place to live, that might make you too comfortable, better move in with a bunch of random strangers instead. It's fucking weird.
I’ve been to SF three times now, and each time I hate it more. Everyone is douchey, you have assholes wearing Channel/Gucci etc all waiting in line at the trendy new pop-up restaurant or bar while some homeless fuck is shitting on the sidewalk in front of them. They take good food and then reinvent it so it’s hipster, ie. locally sourced, farm to table etc.

I don’t know how people stand to live there. Everyone comes off as douchey, transparent, and vacuous. They all stand in lines at the same places, wherever the new hot spot is defined by some arbitrary reason or pretentious asshole.

Most leftist cities are like that, though. Portland, Seattle, etc are all the same.
 
WOW. You mean that people will be FORCED to do what people have been doing for since like forever?
 
He uses the gym's laundry service because he does not own a washing machine.

Johnson doesn't even have an apartment, actually. He rents a bed in a large room with other people who rent beds, for nights, weeks or months at a time, through a service called PodShare. All the residents share a kitchen and bathrooms. Johnson also rents a desk at WeWork, a coworking space.

And he says the only clothes he owns are two versions of the same outfit.

Johnson says he owns so little that he has even been able to get rid of his backpack. "I gave that up two months ago," he says.

They did it, they finally commercialized depression and put a positive PR spin on it!

Relevant video.
 
I can't imagine that using a ride-share service every day or every other day is cheaper than owning a 10-year-old car that gets decent mileage, is it?
Outside big megacities like NYC where you are completely fucked if you own a car (parking being impossible, third world gridlock traffic, parking tickets if you actually use a parking space, emission checks, etc.) it's cheaper to own a beater with the cheapest insurance. Hell, even broke people in the bad part of town will happily take whatever cheap cars they can get over taking the bus. Ride sharing is fucking pricey, especially with the fees they tack on and also costs more than public transit does.
 
They did it, they finally commercialized depression and put a positive PR spin on it!

Relevant video.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdM0ehPXjiQ
These #vanlife fucks shit me to tears. Like as someone who in the past has had to live in their vehicle for some time I couldn't possibly imagine why you'd voluntarily do that. It's not like you save much money doing it either because in that situation you get nickel and dimed over all the small things and it adds up big time.
 
These #vanlife fucks shit me to tears. Like as someone who in the past has had to live in their vehicle for some time I couldn't possibly imagine why you'd voluntarily do that. It's not like you save much money doing it either because in that situation you get nickel and dimed over all the small things and it adds up big time.
I talked to a guy who decided to live in a tent, thinking he'd save money for a down payment on a house. He quickly found out he wasted far more food, since he didn't have a refrigerator, and during the summer it was absolutely miserable being either humid and hot as hell, or raining. He said it was the stupidest things he had chosen to do.
 
I talked to a guy who decided to live in a tent, thinking he'd save money for a down payment on a house. He quickly found out he wasted far more food, since he didn't have a refrigerator, and during the summer it was absolutely miserable being either humid and hot as hell, or raining. He said it was the stupidest things he had chosen to do.
Dude I had a crazy neighbor who decided to live in a giant tent that costed 1200 bucks on someone's land. I don't know if he's still alive. My goal is to own some land and live on a small but adequate cottage but if it seems wiser to just get a condo then I'll do that. RV living would be the lowest I'd go on living standards. That's a very distant last. I'd beg my non hoarding sister to let me rent a room at her house before I sunk that low.
 
Pod share? So it's a shelter for hipsters?:lol:

I'd like to see that work out in Philly, where housing costs are also reaching insanity levels.

TyQuandre would like to "share" your new iPhone. Help a brotha out.

So I have been homeless and damn was it terrifying. And I am still in an unstable situation. And it isn't some fun hippie commune nonsense either. I didn't have any of these lazy socialist hipster privileges either. They are making light of a very serious epidemic that hits people who actually want to be productive but can't make ends meet or have issues that make working difficult or impossible. Being homeless is not a game, children. Get a damn job and save your money so you don't hit 65 and end up out on the streets for real because you didn't plan for the future. It's no fun for old timers on the streets.

Biggest problem imo is these hipsters go to cities like Hollywood and then are astounded that everything is expensive.

They think it is going to be just like the movies. It's not. Then again we don't want them moving en masse to more affordable places and ruining them. Let them have California.

Didn't we already live through the 60's?

And we don't need to again. Communal sharing is all fine and dandy until someone pops up who doesn't want to let Moondoggie and Starchild borrow his brand new stuff. Then he's totally bringing down the vibes man. It will never work longterm in modern western culture. Communal property works in some primitive societies that are not bogged down by material excess. But we aren't like that at all. Eventually someone gets accused of being selfish when they want to keep something valuable out of sixteen different hands before they get it back. Then it all falls apart.

Bummer, man.:(
 
What's going to happen to these people when Instagram goes out of business, and all their precious photographs go up in smoke?
Tangential conversation, but I often wonder the same thing. How are the masses who have the majority of their lives projected into the internet going to react if/when whatever service they use goes dark?

For as shitty as it would be for me should the internet drop off for an extended time, at least I have pre-internet experience in the adult world and don't have my identity associated with it. I think of how much of a culture shock / reality check things would be for everyone in their mid-20's and under.

not gonna lie... most of the time these days I kinda wish for it.
 
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