🐱 The Weak Men of the Online West

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The world was shocked to learn of the brutal murder of 50 Muslim worshippers two weeks ago in New Zealand. It was less surprising, but no less revolting, to find that the shooter was yet another product of the darkest pits of the internet—a rootless 8chan loser on a self-proclaimed mission to drive all non-whites out of what he regards as European-descended countries such as New Zealand. People sighed at discovering yet another Daily Stormer degenerate who thinks white people are being intentionally replaced by shadowy grandmasters but can’t look at his own childless, failed existence and notice the part he himself is playing in the decline of the West.

The conclusions and violent actions of individuals like accused New Zealand shooter Brenton Tarrant must not be dismissed as crazy or random. As Murtaza Hussain wrote insightfully at The Intercept, Tarrant’s perceptions and actions are the outgrowth of years of rhetoric that’s portrayed immigrants as “invaders” and the paranoiac tendency to point to numerically small minority communities with high birthrates as somehow to blame for declining European and white birthrates. Popular right-wing online figures such as Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux have done this routinely. It is, of course, a stupid theory, but its very illogical and reactionary nature somehow makes it even more convincing to lost young men with axes to grind. Tarrant’s manifesto could have been lifted straight from Infowars, except that it contains a slightly stronger hate of capitalism and doesn’t focus on Satanism.

The Australian Tarrant traveled the world, but lived on the internet, an increasingly common and frankly dangerous phenomenon. He believed in the “Great Replacement” theory first posited by French writer Renaud Camus and since taken up in fervent fashion by white nationalists and the alt-right, as well as more mainstream proponents in the White House and Congress. The sick irony is that Tarrant typified the kind of dissolute, weak lifestyle he claimed to oppose.

Indeed, he is a prime example of the kind of rootlessness, moral relativism, victimization, cowardice, and weakness that is dragging the West down. He advocated “accelerationism,” essentially wishing to make things worse so a fascist system could arise from the ruins, similar to the rhetoric espoused by groups like Atomwaffen Division. The reality, of course, is that widespread disorder in the West would only lead to the corporatist, liberal establishment Tarrant so hates gaining more power by pledging to restore the peace.

His manifesto praises another deranged coward, Anders Breivik, who ruthlessly murdered the teenage sons and daughters of Norway’s liberal establishment on an island in the summer of 2011. Breivik was supposedly trying to trigger a backlash against the do-gooder types in charge of Norway and its refugee and immigration policies. He failed utterly to provoke such a backlash and inspired revulsion among the majority of people. Still, like Serbian war criminals and Nazis, he has his admirers: losers and online obsessives such as Tarrant. They’ve somehow reached a place so sunken that they think murdering European teenagers is a bold stand against the erosion of white Europe. In his manifesto, Tarrant claims that his attack will reverberate in the future, “creating the atmosphere of fear and change that is required” to bring about the removal of non-whites. Specifically, Tarrant claimed he wanted to avenge the murder of Ebba Akerlund who was killed in a terrorist attack in Sweden in 2017. So he murdered innocent Muslim children in New Zealand? It is as imbecilic as it is sick.

Tarrant already has his own de facto apologists, such as the ignoble, egg-headed Australian senator Fraser Anning. There’s also the incels of some festering online haunts like Kiwi Farms, whose founder Joshua Moon is refusing to disclose postsmade about Tarrant around the time of the attack to authorities, calling New Zealand an “irrelevant” nation and a “shithole country.” Moon had previously been let go as an administrator of 8chan over allegations of spreading pedophilic content and has been linked to a number of school shooting hoaxes.

Like the Pittsburgh synagogue killer Robert Bowers, Tarrant descended into the bowels of the internet and came out even more deranged than he went in—and ready to kill. Rather than seeing the powerful example of solidarity, community building, and unity that the Muslim ummah has for Westerners—particularly those in non-Muslim majority nations—Tarrant saw only ethnic enemies. Rather than seeing the faces of honorable men, women, and children from all walks of life at Al Noor and Linwood mosques, he saw only demons. Rather than hearing beloved grandfather and former Afghan refugee Mohemmed Daoud Nabi greet him with “hello brother” at the door, he heard only his own internal soundtrack of deadening hate.

Muslims have faced intense persecution for centuries, and continue to around the world, from Syria to Kashmir. Despite their numbers, the faith continues to be undermined and attacked by authoritarians and tyrannical fanatics from Egypt to China. Tarrant himself admired the authoritarian China, a full-blown surveillance state teeming with the “corporatism” he claims to despise, because it is a “non-diversified country” (it is also placing millions of its Muslim minority Uighurs in concentration camps). Tarrant also claimed to be an “eco fascist,” despite his love for China, where the environment is regularly despoiled to meet state production targets. It’s as ideologically incoherent as it is morally repulsive—the outgrowth of an online education gone wrong.


To have Muslims feel increasingly unsafe in Western countries is tragic indeed and should be intensely countered by goodwill and neighborly affection. Islam itself brought together various warring clans and nations under submission to God, and many of those killed in the New Zealand attack came from across the Muslim world. As the Quran says, “Remember the favor of Allah upon you, when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and he saved you from it” (3:103). Tarrant wanted to drive apart what Islam had brought together, but he failed.

As the comedian Jeremy McLellan has noted, background investigations into Tarrant showing he was bullied and fell into a vicious spiral online are cheap journalism. When was the last time a Muslim terrorist was labeled an “angelic boy”? The truth is that many of us were bullied but never grew up to murder rooms full of innocent people, or even consider doing so. How off-track do you have to be to think that killing worshippers at prayer will turn the public more against them than against you? Only an idiot who spends his life online could believe such a thing. Tarrant’s 87-page manifesto says that white Westerners who convert to Islam are race traitors—but it is Tarrant who is the traitor.

The New Zealand shooter is a coward and a failure, like others of his ilk. His obsession with the “Great Replacement” theory is self-referential. People like him are replacing themselves—with pure nihilism and bitter futures. They can blame the Jews, globalists, or vague shadowy conspiracies, but at the end of the day it’s their fault for wallowing in victimhood. The figure hunched over his computer watching violent porn and ironic memes about mass murder is not a harmless joke. The anger of the lost boys should not be taken lightly by pundits or security analysts, since it demonstrates a lack of success and powerless rage that can manifest itself in unpredictably insane ways. Such lost boys need a very firm line in the sand and very hard boundaries. They were never taught respect or basic manliness. To prevent future attacks, we need to rebuild a society with purpose and instill men with positive masculine virtues that lead them to protect men and women—not kill them.

Nobody will mourn when Tarrant dies. But all of us mourn for the innocent people killed by his weak hand, ask that they be accepted by God as martyrs, and vow to oppose savages like him until the very last. The true victims are those who have had to face the absolute worst of humanity. Let all of us now try to show its best.
 
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The world was shocked to learn of the brutal murder of 50 Muslim worshippers two weeks ago in New Zealand. It was less surprising, but no less revolting, to find that the shooter was yet another product of the darkest pits of the internet—a rootless 8chan loser on a self-proclaimed mission to drive all non-whites out of what he regards as European-descended countries such as New Zealand. People sighed at discovering yet another Daily Stormer degenerate who thinks white people are being intentionally replaced by shadowy grandmasters but can’t look at his own childless, failed existence and notice the part he himself is playing in the decline of the West.

The conclusions and violent actions of individuals like accused New Zealand shooter Brenton Tarrant must not be dismissed as crazy or random. As Murtaza Hussain wrote insightfully at The Intercept, Tarrant’s perceptions and actions are the outgrowth of years of rhetoric that’s portrayed immigrants as “invaders” and the paranoiac tendency to point to numerically small minority communities with high birthrates as somehow to blame for declining European and white birthrates. Popular right-wing online figures such as Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux have done this routinely. It is, of course, a stupid theory, but its very illogical and reactionary nature somehow makes it even more convincing to lost young men with axes to grind. Tarrant’s manifesto could have been lifted straight from Infowars, except that it contains a slightly stronger hate of capitalism and doesn’t focus on Satanism.

The Australian Tarrant traveled the world, but lived on the internet, an increasingly common and frankly dangerous phenomenon. He believed in the “Great Replacement” theory first posited by French writer Renaud Camus and since taken up in fervent fashion by white nationalists and the alt-right, as well as more mainstream proponents in the White House and Congress. The sick irony is that Tarrant typified the kind of dissolute, weak lifestyle he claimed to oppose.

Indeed, he is a prime example of the kind of rootlessness, moral relativism, victimization, cowardice, and weakness that is dragging the West down. He advocated “accelerationism,” essentially wishing to make things worse so a fascist system could arise from the ruins, similar to the rhetoric espoused by groups like Atomwaffen Division. The reality, of course, is that widespread disorder in the West would only lead to the corporatist, liberal establishment Tarrant so hates gaining more power by pledging to restore the peace.

His manifesto praises another deranged coward, Anders Breivik, who ruthlessly murdered the teenage sons and daughters of Norway’s liberal establishment on an island in the summer of 2011. Breivik was supposedly trying to trigger a backlash against the do-gooder types in charge of Norway and its refugee and immigration policies. He failed utterly to provoke such a backlash and inspired revulsion among the majority of people. Still, like Serbian war criminals and Nazis, he has his admirers: losers and online obsessives such as Tarrant. They’ve somehow reached a place so sunken that they think murdering European teenagers is a bold stand against the erosion of white Europe. In his manifesto, Tarrant claims that his attack will reverberate in the future, “creating the atmosphere of fear and change that is required” to bring about the removal of non-whites. Specifically, Tarrant claimed he wanted to avenge the murder of Ebba Akerlund who was killed in a terrorist attack in Sweden in 2017. So he murdered innocent Muslim children in New Zealand? It is as imbecilic as it is sick.

Tarrant already has his own de facto apologists, such as the ignoble, egg-headed Australian senator Fraser Anning. There’s also the incels of some festering online haunts like Kiwi Farms, whose founder Joshua Moon is refusing to disclose postsmade about Tarrant around the time of the attack to authorities, calling New Zealand an “irrelevant” nation and a “shithole country.” Moon had previously been let go as an administrator of 8chan over allegations of spreading pedophilic content and has been linked to a number of school shooting hoaxes.

Like the Pittsburgh synagogue killer Robert Bowers, Tarrant descended into the bowels of the internet and came out even more deranged than he went in—and ready to kill. Rather than seeing the powerful example of solidarity, community building, and unity that the Muslim ummah has for Westerners—particularly those in non-Muslim majority nations—Tarrant saw only ethnic enemies. Rather than seeing the faces of honorable men, women, and children from all walks of life at Al Noor and Linwood mosques, he saw only demons. Rather than hearing beloved grandfather and former Afghan refugee Mohemmed Daoud Nabi greet him with “hello brother” at the door, he heard only his own internal soundtrack of deadening hate.

Muslims have faced intense persecution for centuries, and continue to around the world, from Syria to Kashmir. Despite their numbers, the faith continues to be undermined and attacked by authoritarians and tyrannical fanatics from Egypt to China. Tarrant himself admired the authoritarian China, a full-blown surveillance state teeming with the “corporatism” he claims to despise, because it is a “non-diversified country” (it is also placing millions of its Muslim minority Uighurs in concentration camps). Tarrant also claimed to be an “eco fascist,” despite his love for China, where the environment is regularly despoiled to meet state production targets. It’s as ideologically incoherent as it is morally repulsive—the outgrowth of an online education gone wrong.


To have Muslims feel increasingly unsafe in Western countries is tragic indeed and should be intensely countered by goodwill and neighborly affection. Islam itself brought together various warring clans and nations under submission to God, and many of those killed in the New Zealand attack came from across the Muslim world. As the Quran says, “Remember the favor of Allah upon you, when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and he saved you from it” (3:103). Tarrant wanted to drive apart what Islam had brought together, but he failed.

As the comedian Jeremy McLellan has noted, background investigations into Tarrant showing he was bullied and fell into a vicious spiral online are cheap journalism. When was the last time a Muslim terrorist was labeled an “angelic boy”? The truth is that many of us were bullied but never grew up to murder rooms full of innocent people, or even consider doing so. How off-track do you have to be to think that killing worshippers at prayer will turn the public more against them than against you? Only an idiot who spends his life online could believe such a thing. Tarrant’s 87-page manifesto says that white Westerners who convert to Islam are race traitors—but it is Tarrant who is the traitor.

The New Zealand shooter is a coward and a failure, like others of his ilk. His obsession with the “Great Replacement” theory is self-referential. People like him are replacing themselves—with pure nihilism and bitter futures. They can blame the Jews, globalists, or vague shadowy conspiracies, but at the end of the day it’s their fault for wallowing in victimhood. The figure hunched over his computer watching violent porn and ironic memes about mass murder is not a harmless joke. The anger of the lost boys should not be taken lightly by pundits or security analysts, since it demonstrates a lack of success and powerless rage that can manifest itself in unpredictably insane ways. Such lost boys need a very firm line in the sand and very hard boundaries. They were never taught respect or basic manliness. To prevent future attacks, we need to rebuild a society with purpose and instill men with positive masculine virtues that lead them to protect men and women—not kill them.

Nobody will mourn when Tarrant dies. But all of us mourn for the innocent people killed by his weak hand, ask that they be accepted by God as martyrs, and vow to oppose savages like him until the very last. The true victims are those who have had to face the absolute worst of humanity. Let all of us now try to show its best.
Yeah imma need to rate this whole article :alog:. Like lol calm down dude.
 
Calling men you don't like "incels" is just as retarded as calling some girl you don't like a thot. It says a lot more about you than it does about them.
 
Man it's weird to see purportedly conservative people railing against Null for refusing to the surrender to the government the dox of people suspected of nothing more than wrongthink without even a court order. Isn't that exactly the sort of intrusive government action that people on the right are supposed to be against?

Also, is there actually any basis to this thing all the articles print about how @Null got kicked out of 8chan for being a pedo? It seems like they all repeat it, but I've not seen one go in to any actual details about the what the accusation is based on. I'm guessing they're all just parroting each other.
 
Also, us being called incels is always funny considering we have a massive thread on them and mock them at every turn.

Hey now, if they cared about facts more so than the narrative they're pushing, they wouldn't be hack journalists. Don't confuse them for caring about facts like some nerdy, white nationalist, incel loser from KiwiFarms.

Globalist Hack dijo:
a rootless 8chan loser

As opposed to being a rootless cosmopolitan, betraying one's country with espousal of globalist policies and sneering down at having pride in one's nation? All the while parroting globalist lines about how nationalism diminishes a country's diversity and economy?

Washed-Out Media Whore dijo:
The sick irony is that Tarrant typified the kind of dissolute, weak lifestyle he claimed to oppose.

Pot, kettle, black.

Political Tool dijo:
Tarrant descended into the bowels of the internet and came out even more deranged than he went in—and ready to kill.

So, are cuckservatives changing their hypothesis about video games causing violence, or are they adding to it?
 
Men who call other men 'incels' as just a blanket insult are the biggest bitches in the world, because they view sex as a status symbol to such an extent that if you can't get sex, you're a loser. Anyone who prioritizes pussy in any way whatsoever is an exceptional individual. Calling us incels make you look desperate.
It’s always about how getting laid makes you a real man. It’s just kind of sad. What kind of cuck even wants to have sex with a woman who doesn’t love you? What do you do afterwards instead of cuddle, stare at the wall in awkward silence?
 
It’s always about how getting laid makes you a real man. It’s just kind of sad. What kind of cuck even wants to have sex with a woman who doesn’t love you? What do you do afterwards instead of cuddle, stare at the wall in awkward silence?

It's exactly the same incel ideology except that the speaker considers themselves to be the chad in the virgin-chad binary.
 
Conservatives conserve in that they resist needless change. At least, that's the idea. So it was logical for conservatives to fight gay marriage, because it was a big change. That's how I see it, basically "Hey now, the founders created a pretty fucking good nation, let's make sure we have a good reason before we go changing shit around".
 
Someone's Mad on the Internet.

@Null , you made the news again, by the way.
It's amazing how quickly facts have been twisted to fit the narrative. They act like KF had some crucial intel on Tarrant that Null refused to disclose because lol fascists. The only info KF had when the NZ cunts tried to rake their balls across Null's face was publicly available.

I haven't seen a more shameful attempt at slandering us since the Margaret Pleiss' article.
 
Conservatives conserve in that they resist needless change. At least, that's the idea. So it was logical for conservatives to fight gay marriage, because it was a big change. That's how I see it, basically "Hey now, the founders created a pretty fucking good nation, let's make sure we have a good reason before we go changing shit around".

sounds like cuckservatives just need to use lube
 
Calling men you don't like "incels" is just as exceptional as calling some girl you don't like a thot. It says a lot more about you than it does about them.
To be Fair, we are on the Internet, we are surrounded by Incels, faggots and Thots.
I mean fuck, the Owner of Kiwifarms is an Incel for sure. Just look at Matts face, that body is clearly not able to get anything hard.
 
Also, is there actually any basis to this thing all the articles print about how @Null got kicked out of 8chan for being a pedo? It seems like they all repeat it, but I've not seen one go in to any actual details about the what the accusation is based on. I'm guessing they're all just parroting each other.

The first sped who wrote an article made it up because she's a lying liar who tells lies, all the rest copied her because they're lazy and stupid. Null left 8chan over a dispute with Jim over whether to use open or closed source code, or because he was an incompetent coder and scammed a cripple out of $12,000, depending who you want to believe. Even places like /cow/ and lolcow.farm where they hate-follow Null and will believe almost anything negative I make up about him are like "fired for being a pedo wtf?".
 
The first sped who wrote an article made it up because she's a lying liar who tells lies, all the rest copied her because they're lazy and stupid. Null left 8chan over a dispute with Jim over whether to use open or closed source code, or because he was an incompetent coder and scammed a cripple out of $12,000, depending who you want to believe. Even places like /cow/ and lolcow.farm where they hate-follow Null and will believe almost anything negative I make up about him are like "fired for being a pedo wtf?".
That Encyclopedia Dramatica article will haunt Null until the day he dies. It's a damn shame, really. Good on him for seemingly not letting it bother him though. I wonder if he'd ever do a stream on his experience working for 8chan.
 
That Encyclopedia Dramatica article will haunt Null until the day he dies. It's a damn shame, really. Good on him for seemingly not letting it bother him though. I wonder if he'd ever do a stream on his experience working for 8chan.
Couldn't null go after them for libel (the journalists) for saying he's a pedophile and ran a pedophile board when that is not true? They're not stating opinion there, they're stating untrue things as fact, things that are very damaging to ones prospects usually.
 
Conservatives conserve in that they resist needless change. At least, that's the idea. So it was logical for conservatives to fight gay marriage, because it was a big change. That's how I see it, basically "Hey now, the founders created a pretty fucking good nation, let's make sure we have a good reason before we go changing shit around".
I think what people mean when they ask what conservatives conserve, they mean the left has been pushing changes in society and most conservative elites have basically conserved little to nothing. Hence the question. Generally it's done to mock those conservatives who push the "Be the bigger man" routine and allow the left to walk all over them than anything.
 
Conservatives conserve in that they resist needless change. At least, that's the idea. So it was logical for conservatives to fight gay marriage, because it was a big change. That's how I see it, basically "Hey now, the founders created a pretty fucking good nation, let's make sure we have a good reason before we go changing shit around".

Saddly, stuff needs changing and they will likely drag their feet on the matter. Say what you will about MRA's and MGTOW, but they do make valid points about divorce/family court issues. The conservatives who wail and bemoan about "muh sacred marriage will be destroyed by teh gays" completely ignore those problems which likely contribute to lots of men not bothering to attempt the nuclear family thing due to the risks.

Why emotionally invest in/create children that can be taken away from you so easily?
Why tie the knot when you can live in sin and not risk alimony?

Instead the conservatives play the same song they always have about obligation and duty and try harder, while failing in their duty to give those men fair treatment in those courts. Non-reciprocal duties/obligations only last so long in any relationship where the shafted have an IQ higher than the number of inches needed to meet the required height to ride a generic roller coaster.
 
Saddly, stuff needs changing and they will likely drag their feet on the matter. Say what you will about MRA's and MGTOW, but they do make valid points about divorce/family court issues. The conservatives who wail and bemoan about "muh sacred marriage will be destroyed by teh gays" completely ignore those problems which likely contribute to lots of men not bothering to attempt the nuclear family thing due to the risks.

Why emotionally invest in/create children that can be taken away from you so easily?
Why tie the knot when you can live in sin and not risk alimony?

Instead the conservatives play the same song they always have about obligation and duty and try harder, while failing in their duty to give those men fair treatment in those courts. Non-reciprocal duties/obligations only last so long in any relationship where the shafted have an IQ higher than the number of inches needed to meet the required height to ride a generic roller coaster.
Well sure. But being conservative doesn't mean "Literally no change allowed ever" it means "There damn well better be a good reason to go fucking with what works". And of course, some people are harder to convince change is needed than others.

Also... I'm not clear in what your last paragraph is saying.
 
Man it's weird to see purportedly conservative people railing against Null for refusing to the surrender to the government the dox of people suspected of nothing more than wrongthink without even a court order. Isn't that exactly the sort of intrusive government action that people on the right are supposed to be against?
Unfortunately, conservatives who actually value citizens having privacy seem to be a dying breed. The author sounds like he's a neo-con who would have voted in favor of the Patriot Act.
 
The American Conservative continues to employ that twit Rod Dreher, notable for his love of craft beer, craft Churchianity, hatred of his own family, and love of sneering at his intellectual and moral superiors (most actual conservatives). Their readership dwindles every year, and it's easy to see why. The list of current contributors is a who's who of who cares.
 
Well sure. But being conservative doesn't mean "Literally no change allowed ever" it means "There damn well better be a good reason to go fucking with what works". And of course, some people are harder to convince change is needed than others.



Fair enough on the first part.

Also... I'm not clear in what your last paragraph is saying.

I am a little sleep deprived and thus likely to be a wee ranty.

I think the last part is probably a reaction to a sudden uptick in seeing conservatives (trads), banging on about duty/obligation being what life is supposed to be all about, and a few things along the lines of "guys, come on... you shouldn't be discouraged, you just need to try harder to appreciate marriage and the nuclear family". Felt very self-entitled to imply these guys should take those risks for the sake of preserving the trads sense of rightness in the world, and that if they really want an uptick in weddings/children they should diffuse some of the mines in those minefields.

tl;dr I went on a tangent, and apologize for that little side plate of spergetti.
 
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