🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Tempest~]

As a furry, I have to say this. We can be retar- I mean special sometimes.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Terrifying in their power and influence, but mere powerless plebs in the face of the chaotic power of the universe.

Literally never met a fully-fledged "femboy" who had any influence or power. They're like big-eyed puppies who sit around and have absolutely no enemies, because everybody secretly wants to be as hairless and soft as they, despite them spending 3 hours a day grooming and nursing their asshole to achieve this. Because they basically got nothing else in life.

The few femboys I've been friends with were fucking obnoxious and of no good to anyone. They're worshiped and take enjoyment in sexuality, and that's it. They don't have the same power as the artist drawing their degenerated shit, and often they just end up the toy of some daddy character with twice as many followers. Even the most prominent femboy "snowmew" types from decades ago are basically gone at this point.

Being a loudmouth on Twitter, no matter your kinks and display hereof, is vastly more powerful than "why isnt femboy a gender".

 

[CIA Nigger]

So here's a interesting post I found on FurAffinity regarding drama related to the con scene from a person who ran one, in this case What The Fur. The post was made by Firebreath on FurAffinity (login required), who according to WikiFur was the operations director and after people kept asking to share it with people who don't use FurAffinity he made a Google Docs repost of it, which I've posted a PDF of here. The story is a good read about the rise and fall of a furry convention in Canada, aside from the fact it's written in the manner you'd expect from a furry.

The summarized version is this:

Spoiler

In the mid 2000s Firebreath started organizing furmeets in Montreal and they were smash hits. The fandom was smaller but over time he moved up to having furries take part in a walk for kids style event and did interviews, picking and choosing who they felt would represent the fandom the best. He became a part of con security at Furfright, and he had to deal with some people getting shitfaced drunk so hard they'd puke through their fursuit heads and people trying to get in without paying. One year there was even a fire alarm evacuation.

After that incident, him and a few others decided to start their own con. At a dinner table in some resturant they decided they should run their own, and so they did. What The Fur was founded and they spent hundreds of hours and $3,500 getting the con started for the first year. He found out running a con was nothing like running meets, and while he lost $2,000 in the first year he decided to push through with it as he felt his area deserved a furcon.

Over time, things started going wrong. There was a fursuit parade in public that was a 300 meter walk to where tourists gathered and while some people liked it a few very vocal furries threw a fit on social media over it, and when con staff approached them they were told to go fuck themselves if they got a reply at all. The AV guy completely fumbled the job one year, quit, and tried to start a smear campaign behind the scenes. They had issues taking hotels because they outgrew their first hotel and the only hotel they could afford was closing down to be converted to more student housing. French speakers complained there wasn't anything for them despite not showing up to the con.

That's when things really started to add up strangely. A rival con in a nearby town (named FurryCon funny enough) started announcing dates weeks apart from their convention, then the next year overlapped with their convention. The hotel made them pay for $1,000 a day security after a "concerned parent" who rented a room for pool access for a birthday party saw fursuit sex in the pool/hottub and a guest complained about pornographic material on post it notes. Somebody posted a picture on Facebook mooning a camera in the parking lot and tagging the con. An anonymous person logged a complaint with Montreal Police about minor trafficking at their con and had a police visit, and the next year there were police visiting regularly. Somebody filed a complaint that the con didn't provide French speaking services despite providing bilingual forms and conbooks.

He resigned a few days later after a mental breakdown and realizing somebody was trying to fuck his con over. His viewpoint on the local community changed from thinking they should have a con to "fuck this I can't please you guys". He has a mental breakdown, gets put on antidepressants, and the con lasts for 2 more years with middling attendance before it folds. He ends the post with "the community sucks ass now go fuck yourselves".

tl;dr: A furry tries to run a convention, deals with sabotage attempts from a neighboring con deliberately trying to overlap with them and fake threats (either from the other con or the community), and ends up having a breakdown over it. Knowing the furry community there's likely some other drama involved as well.

I attached a photo of the fa post as well because a lot of the comments there are relevant, a lot of furries feel like running events isn't worth it either.

 

[Anonymous For This]

So here's a interesting post I found on FurAffinity regarding drama related to the con scene from a person who ran one, in this case What The Fur. The post was made by Firebreath on FurAffinity (login required), who according to WikiFur was the operations director and after people kept asking to share it with people who don't use FurAffinity he made a Google Docs repost of it, which I've posted a PDF of here. The story is a good read about the rise and fall of a furry convention in Canada, aside from the fact it's written in the manner you'd expect from a furry.

The summarized version is this:

Spoiler

In the mid 2000s Firebreath started organizing furmeets in Montreal and they were smash hits. The fandom was smaller but over time he moved up to having furries take part in a walk for kids style event and did interviews, picking and choosing who they felt would represent the fandom the best. He became a part of con security at Furfright, and he had to deal with some people getting shitfaced drunk so hard they'd puke through their fursuit heads and people trying to get in without paying. One year there was even a fire alarm evacuation.

After that incident, him and a few others decided to start their own con. At a dinner table in some resturant they decided they should run their own, and so they did. What The Fur was founded and they spent hundreds of hours and $3,500 getting the con started for the first year. He found out running a con was nothing like running meets, and while he lost $2,000 in the first year he decided to push through with it as he felt his area deserved a furcon.

Over time, things started going wrong. There was a fursuit parade in public that was a 300 meter walk to where tourists gathered and while some people liked it a few very vocal furries threw a fit on social media over it, and when con staff approached them they were told to go fuck themselves if they got a reply at all. The AV guy completely fumbled the job one year, quit, and tried to start a smear campaign behind the scenes. They had issues taking hotels because they outgrew their first hotel and the only hotel they could afford was closing down to be converted to more student housing. French speakers complained there wasn't anything for them despite not showing up to the con.

That's when things really started to add up strangely. A rival con in a nearby town (named FurryCon funny enough) started announcing dates weeks apart from their convention, then the next year overlapped with their convention. The hotel made them pay for $1,000 a day security after a "concerned parent" who rented a room for pool access for a birthday party saw fursuit sex in the pool/hottub and a guest complained about pornographic material on post it notes. Somebody posted a picture on Facebook mooning a camera in the parking lot and tagging the con. An anonymous person logged a complaint with Montreal Police about minor trafficking at their con and had a police visit, and the next year there were police visiting regularly. Somebody filed a complaint that the con didn't provide French speaking services despite providing bilingual forms and conbooks.

He resigned a few days later after a mental breakdown and realizing somebody was trying to fuck his con over. His viewpoint on the local community changed from thinking they should have a con to "fuck this I can't please you guys". He has a mental breakdown, gets put on antidepressants, and the con lasts for 2 more years with middling attendance before it folds. He ends the post with "the community sucks ass now go fuck yourselves".

tl;dr: A furry tries to run a convention, deals with sabotage attempts from a neighboring con deliberately trying to overlap with them and fake threats (either from the other con or the community), and ends up having a breakdown over it. Knowing the furry community there's likely some other drama involved as well.

I attached a photo of the fa post as well because a lot of the comments there are relevant, a lot of furries feel like running events isn't worth it either.

Imagine being such a lowly group of degenerates that you can't even please Quebecois.

 

[Zoinks_Puma]

I searched the forums and found a lot of good info on wild_life/java, but it doesn't seem like there's a dox outside of just her general county, do we know anything personal beyond this post.

 

[Poto]

So here's a interesting post I found on FurAffinity regarding drama related to the con scene from a person who ran one, in this case What The Fur. The post was made by Firebreath on FurAffinity (login required), who according to WikiFur was the operations director and after people kept asking to share it with people who don't use FurAffinity he made a Google Docs repost of it, which I've posted a PDF of here. The story is a good read about the rise and fall of a furry convention in Canada, aside from the fact it's written in the manner you'd expect from a furry.

The summarized version is this:

Spoiler

In the mid 2000s Firebreath started organizing furmeets in Montreal and they were smash hits. The fandom was smaller but over time he moved up to having furries take part in a walk for kids style event and did interviews, picking and choosing who they felt would represent the fandom the best. He became a part of con security at Furfright, and he had to deal with some people getting shitfaced drunk so hard they'd puke through their fursuit heads and people trying to get in without paying. One year there was even a fire alarm evacuation.

After that incident, him and a few others decided to start their own con. At a dinner table in some resturant they decided they should run their own, and so they did. What The Fur was founded and they spent hundreds of hours and $3,500 getting the con started for the first year. He found out running a con was nothing like running meets, and while he lost $2,000 in the first year he decided to push through with it as he felt his area deserved a furcon.

Over time, things started going wrong. There was a fursuit parade in public that was a 300 meter walk to where tourists gathered and while some people liked it a few very vocal furries threw a fit on social media over it, and when con staff approached them they were told to go fuck themselves if they got a reply at all. The AV guy completely fumbled the job one year, quit, and tried to start a smear campaign behind the scenes. They had issues taking hotels because they outgrew their first hotel and the only hotel they could afford was closing down to be converted to more student housing. French speakers complained there wasn't anything for them despite not showing up to the con.

That's when things really started to add up strangely. A rival con in a nearby town (named FurryCon funny enough) started announcing dates weeks apart from their convention, then the next year overlapped with their convention. The hotel made them pay for $1,000 a day security after a "concerned parent" who rented a room for pool access for a birthday party saw fursuit sex in the pool/hottub and a guest complained about pornographic material on post it notes. Somebody posted a picture on Facebook mooning a camera in the parking lot and tagging the con. An anonymous person logged a complaint with Montreal Police about minor trafficking at their con and had a police visit, and the next year there were police visiting regularly. Somebody filed a complaint that the con didn't provide French speaking services despite providing bilingual forms and conbooks.

He resigned a few days later after a mental breakdown and realizing somebody was trying to fuck his con over. His viewpoint on the local community changed from thinking they should have a con to "fuck this I can't please you guys". He has a mental breakdown, gets put on antidepressants, and the con lasts for 2 more years with middling attendance before it folds. He ends the post with "the community sucks ass now go fuck yourselves".

tl;dr: A furry tries to run a convention, deals with sabotage attempts from a neighboring con deliberately trying to overlap with them and fake threats (either from the other con or the community), and ends up having a breakdown over it. Knowing the furry community there's likely some other drama involved as well.

I attached a photo of the fa post as well because a lot of the comments there are relevant, a lot of furries feel like running events isn't worth it either.

Ah yes, What The Fur. I do know by fact some wants to make a new con in Montreal since the fall, but I don't see any sort of progress since they mentioned it.

For a bunch who bitched and moaned for the con not being perfect, they sure keep bitching and moaning for the con not existing anymore. It just show how they love complaining more than anything .

 

[Nekromantik]

So here's a interesting post I found on FurAffinity regarding drama related to the con scene from a person who ran one, in this case What The Fur. The post was made by Firebreath on FurAffinity (login required), who according to WikiFur was the operations director and after people kept asking to share it with people who don't use FurAffinity he made a Google Docs repost of it, which I've posted a PDF of here. The story is a good read about the rise and fall of a furry convention in Canada, aside from the fact it's written in the manner you'd expect from a furry.

The summarized version is this:

Spoiler

In the mid 2000s Firebreath started organizing furmeets in Montreal and they were smash hits. The fandom was smaller but over time he moved up to having furries take part in a walk for kids style event and did interviews, picking and choosing who they felt would represent the fandom the best. He became a part of con security at Furfright, and he had to deal with some people getting shitfaced drunk so hard they'd puke through their fursuit heads and people trying to get in without paying. One year there was even a fire alarm evacuation.

After that incident, him and a few others decided to start their own con. At a dinner table in some resturant they decided they should run their own, and so they did. What The Fur was founded and they spent hundreds of hours and $3,500 getting the con started for the first year. He found out running a con was nothing like running meets, and while he lost $2,000 in the first year he decided to push through with it as he felt his area deserved a furcon.

Over time, things started going wrong. There was a fursuit parade in public that was a 300 meter walk to where tourists gathered and while some people liked it a few very vocal furries threw a fit on social media over it, and when con staff approached them they were told to go fuck themselves if they got a reply at all. The AV guy completely fumbled the job one year, quit, and tried to start a smear campaign behind the scenes. They had issues taking hotels because they outgrew their first hotel and the only hotel they could afford was closing down to be converted to more student housing. French speakers complained there wasn't anything for them despite not showing up to the con.

That's when things really started to add up strangely. A rival con in a nearby town (named FurryCon funny enough) started announcing dates weeks apart from their convention, then the next year overlapped with their convention. The hotel made them pay for $1,000 a day security after a "concerned parent" who rented a room for pool access for a birthday party saw fursuit sex in the pool/hottub and a guest complained about pornographic material on post it notes. Somebody posted a picture on Facebook mooning a camera in the parking lot and tagging the con. An anonymous person logged a complaint with Montreal Police about minor trafficking at their con and had a police visit, and the next year there were police visiting regularly. Somebody filed a complaint that the con didn't provide French speaking services despite providing bilingual forms and conbooks.

He resigned a few days later after a mental breakdown and realizing somebody was trying to fuck his con over. His viewpoint on the local community changed from thinking they should have a con to "fuck this I can't please you guys". He has a mental breakdown, gets put on antidepressants, and the con lasts for 2 more years with middling attendance before it folds. He ends the post with "the community sucks ass now go fuck yourselves".

tl;dr: A furry tries to run a convention, deals with sabotage attempts from a neighboring con deliberately trying to overlap with them and fake threats (either from the other con or the community), and ends up having a breakdown over it. Knowing the furry community there's likely some other drama involved as well.

I attached a photo of the fa post as well because a lot of the comments there are relevant, a lot of furries feel like running events isn't worth it either.

He's a babyfur. Could that have also been part of the drama? ?

 

[Poto]

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He's a babyfur. Could that have also been part of the drama? ?

I think there was some drama related to some con badge he got. It was mentionned in his wikifur, I think. Nothing I can say for sure on my side, though.

 

[Slapstick_Basterd]

https://twitter.com/foxinks/status/1109979621104238592
http://archive.fo/uF7o3

Spoiler: the replies

TFW the furry 'wokeness' is too strong

 

[Big Bang]

I don't believe any of this. Furries will fuck anything with a hole in it, male, female, or other. Don't have a hole? They'll make one. This bullshit about "furries only accepting one sexuality" is retarded SJW stupidity. IIRC there are more gay furries than any other sexuality. And why cis? Like your non-gender-conforming ass makes up less than 2 percent of the population. Expecting more of the furry community, an already niche community, to be more like 'you' is ignorant. This is brownie point harvesting by being a baiting piece of shit.

 

[Lion]

I don't believe any of this. Furries will fuck anything with a hole in it, male, female, or other. Don't have a hole? They'll make one. This bullshit about "furries only accepting one sexuality" is exceptional SJW stupidity. IIRC there are more gay furries than any other sexuality. And why cis? Like your non-gender-conforming ass makes up less than 2 percent of the population. Expecting more of the furry community, an already niche community, to be more like 'you' is ignorant. This is brownie point harvesting by being a baiting piece of shit.

powerleveling
but i have seen and experienced it first hand.

at one con years ago i was completely dismissed by a group of gay guys when i was just trying to introduce myself since they were friends with the group i was with.

 

[GayDemiBoy]

I don't believe any of this. Furries will fuck anything with a hole in it, male, female, or other. Don't have a hole? They'll make one. This bullshit about "furries only accepting one sexuality" is exceptional SJW stupidity. IIRC there are more gay furries than any other sexuality. And why cis? Like your non-gender-conforming ass makes up less than 2 percent of the population. Expecting more of the furry community, an already niche community, to be more like 'you' is ignorant. This is brownie point harvesting by being a baiting piece of shit.

I would sooner believe this is actually something now happening in the community. Furries will masturbate to fucking any yiff art, to kids, to everything degenerate. However, they're also the most catty and assholeish people you'd meet in person. Some of these men can be the extreme stereotype of dick sucking fairy that it's not funny. The furry community has a large gay percentage in them. 1 in every 5 is gay based on the 2011 census and given the recent trooning I'm sure it would be far higher now. 'If you ain't gay you ain't cool to these sjw furries and guess what it means you can fuck off you homophobe.' These people are morons. They will do this shit if it means looking special and interesting.

 

[Big Bang]

I would sooner believe this is actually something now happening in the community. Furries will masturbate to fucking any yiff art, to kids, to everything degenerate. However, they're also the most catty and assholeish people you'd meet in person. Some of these men can be the extreme stereotype of dick sucking fairy that it's not funny. The furry community has a large gay percentage in them. 1 in every 5 is gay based on the 2011 census and given the recent trooning I'm sure it would be far higher now. 'If you ain't gay you ain't cool to these sjw furries and guess what it means you can fuck off you homophobe.' These people are morons. They will do this shit if it means looking special and interesting.

Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the community. When you put it like this, maybe you're right. ):

 

[Poto]

Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the community. When you put it like this, maybe you're right. ):

My faith in the community died a while ago, and somehow, furries find a chunk of faith I wasn't aware of it and murder it right away.

Admittedly, one of my greatest friend is from the fandom, but he's amongst the rare one who have the social skills and brain of a normal functioning adult, so there's that.

 

[Mesosalpinx]

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TFW the furry 'wokeness' is too strong

There's so little trans support in the community that when some nobody artist tweets support for the president, 239 furries inform him that Trump is directly killing trans people.

https://twitter.com/Sharkstuffnsfw/status/1109970268036972544

Sharkstuff on Twitter: "Nice to know the president’s innocent of coll…

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archive.fo

 

[camopattern]

I don't believe any of this. Furries will fuck anything with a hole in it, male, female, or other. Don't have a hole? They'll make one. This bullshit about "furries only accepting one sexuality" is exceptional SJW stupidity. IIRC there are more gay furries than any other sexuality. And why cis? Like your non-gender-conforming ass makes up less than 2 percent of the population. Expecting more of the furry community, an already niche community, to be more like 'you' is ignorant. This is brownie point harvesting by being a baiting piece of shit.

For all furries "we love the lgbt+ members!" They sure as hell love to hate on three things;
Cis
Straight
Women

And if you're all 3 well fuck you. I've seen them get abused and driven away so many times most of them now just say they're bi or use they/them pronouns so they don't get bombarded by gay men screaming about "gross vaginas and anti gay straight people". I've seen female artists get charged back from their clients when they realized they don't have a cock.

Speaking of dumb shit:

https://twitter.com/fauxlacine/status/1109821041793212417

https://archive.fo/f3uNK

 

[Thistle]

Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the community. When you put it like this, maybe you're right. ):

Yes, you are putting too much faith in that community. That's not to say there isn't any 'less-'degenerate community members (SFW-Only, Religious, etc.), but they're few and far between.

For all furries "we love the lgbt+ members!" They sure as hell love to hate on three things;
Cis
Straight
Women

And if you're all 3 well fuck you. I've seen them get abused and driven away so many times most of them now just say they're bi or use they/them pronouns so they don't get bombarded by gay men screaming about "gross vaginas and anti gay straight people". I've seen female artists get charged back from their clients when they realized they don't have a cock.

Can confirm, also a fucking nightmare if you dare to interact with any woman who appears to be straight as well, might end up getting a 'fuck you nazi' out of em if you bring up your skepticism about some of the events of the past in this god forsaken nation.

That's just because furries are infested with libtards because of that 'inclusivity'.

 

[Reynard]

Back in the day it was “are there any straight furries?” Now it’s “are there any cis furries?” It’s getting to the point where trannies don’t seem to be a minority anymore, which is a bit worrying. Not because trannies are bad, God no, but simply because it either means they’re appropriating an actual struggle for brownie points, attention, or because they’re pressured into it or it means that literally that many people have gender dyspeptic, which is quite rare and statistically, being a mental disorder, should be rare. Somehow I doubt it’s the latter, and it’s gross.

Also, to everyone saying the fandom is inclusive, it’s not. It doesn’t matter what creed you are, if you don’t fall in line, you’re not welcome. Not into dudes? Whether you’re a chick, dude, or hell, even a tranny, people take an issue to that. You have to be gay, bi, or pan (another term for bi, which makes it pretty useless as a term) to run with the “cool kids.” I’ve been hit on by dudes plenty of times, and they all get cunty when I tell them I’m not into men. I can name an instance where a few have hit on me and I found it to be particularly uncomfortable. Needless to say, just like every community, in order to fit in, you have to be a cookie cutter replicant of the people around you. They’re not gonna get along with you if you aren’t into the same fetishes (or at least don’t mind being sent porn of whatever they’re into) and you aren’t “so cute uwu.”

 

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

Back in the day it was “are there any straight furries?” Now it’s “are there any cis furries?” It’s getting to the point where trannies don’t seem to be a minority anymore, which is a bit worrying. Not because trannies are bad, God no, but simply because it either means they’re appropriating an actual struggle for brownie points, attention, or because they’re pressured into it or it means that literally that many people have gender dyspeptic, which is quite rare and statistically, being a mental disorder, should be rare. Somehow I doubt it’s the latter, and it’s gross.

Also, to everyone saying the fandom is inclusive, it’s not. It doesn’t matter what creed you are, if you don’t fall in line, you’re not welcome. Not into dudes? Whether you’re a chick, dude, or hell, even a tranny, people take an issue to that. You have to be gay, bi, or pan (another term for bi, which makes it pretty useless as a term) to run with the “cool kids.” I’ve been hit on by dudes plenty of times, and they all get cunty when I tell them I’m not into men. I can name an instance where a few have hit on me and I found it to be particularly uncomfortable. Needless to say, just like every community, in order to fit in, you have to be a cookie cutter replicant of the people around you. They’re not gonna get along with you if you aren’t into the same fetishes (or at least don’t mind being sent porn of whatever they’re into) and you aren’t “so cute uwu.”

Some of the best and the worst you'll meet is in this fandom.

I think there's alot of transtrenders about. Probably on account of a mix of it being 'in' with the LGBTBBQ side of things (Which is what a good amount of the fandom is) and of wider culture having the "You can fuck your way to paradise" meme. Which is really damaging to people IMO, especially younger people who don't really know any better. Sets up a false value system where people'll fuck and fuck and fuck and then wonder why they feel unfulfilled and hate themselves.

Not to mention that most people I know who Troon'd out quickly turn into bitter, angry, resentful husks who isolate themselves from their old friend groups. I think those are generally the trenders. Or mentally damaged people like Sangie who Troon'd out probably to have armor because he touched kids.

 

[CIA Nigger]

Back in the day it was “are there any straight furries?” Now it’s “are there any cis furries?” It’s getting to the point where trannies don’t seem to be a minority anymore, which is a bit worrying. Not because trannies are bad, God no, but simply because it either means they’re appropriating an actual struggle for brownie points, attention, or because they’re pressured into it or it means that literally that many people have gender dyspeptic, which is quite rare and statistically, being a mental disorder, should be rare. Somehow I doubt it’s the latter, and it’s gross.

Also, to everyone saying the fandom is inclusive, it’s not. It doesn’t matter what creed you are, if you don’t fall in line, you’re not welcome. Not into dudes? Whether you’re a chick, dude, or hell, even a tranny, people take an issue to that. You have to be gay, bi, or pan (another term for bi, which makes it pretty useless as a term) to run with the “cool kids.” I’ve been hit on by dudes plenty of times, and they all get cunty when I tell them I’m not into men. I can name an instance where a few have hit on me and I found it to be particularly uncomfortable. Needless to say, just like every community, in order to fit in, you have to be a cookie cutter replicant of the people around you. They’re not gonna get along with you if you aren’t into the same fetishes (or at least don’t mind being sent porn of whatever they’re into) and you aren’t “so cute uwu.”

The even bigger issue with furries trooning is that it's going to attract all the "unique and special" troons to furry cons and the fandom itself. If you've kept up with even a bit of the Rat King subforum and people with ties to the Rat King, there's a definite overlap. Case in point, the Alex Leal thread was moved from the Rat King subforum to here and PK did some comics for Oh Joy Sex Toy (and much of their remaining audience is troons). Hell you could argue the big guys in the fandom are really trying to market to the generic "kink/fetish" demographic if you look at how Bad Dragon's dumped the furry porn and scenarios written on their website in favor of more generic "Top Sex Toy Award" tier marketing and descriptions of each sex toy. There's also the fact that troons tend to latch onto fads (see: #PluralGang and when every one came out as plural because their pals did) and to some the fandom is another fad.

The fandom being inclusive is a myth commonly spread by those outside the fandom, by furries sugarcoating it, or by the fact that every weirdo on the internet throws themselves under that banner. Go outside basic furry porn and there are guaranteed to be flamewars and offended furries somewhere. If it's not of a popular character, fetish, or from a popufur the image is either going to be hated at worst and not seen at best. But it's an attractive myth and one that draws socially awkward losers into the fandom.

With the rise of outsiders joining the fandom, it's a variation of the classic degradation of a fanbase/hobby image. You have the more "oldschool" furries in it for the art/porn (who skew towards the classic nerd archtypes), and newer furries in it for the lifestyler aspects of the fandom (who skew more towards Tumblr/modern internet culture) and this is leading to the clashes you can see now IMO.