Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votos: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votos: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votos: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votos: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votos: 528 47.6%

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lmfao, NZ police "maintain" that they were in the scene in 6 minutes after the first call, but that's total horse shit since he was in there for a solid 9 minutes shooting in front of a witness on the street (who possibly called the police as soon as the shooting started) as seen in gif related
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Source of the gif is from my arsehole, NZ Police you incompetent drongos
This shit never happens in NZ so I doubt they had any idea how to deal with it.
They probably had to scramble to find a gun that could punch through his body armor.
 
Repeating the question I asked in my thread (before it got merged into this one), why is New Zealand and Australia so hellbent on censoring the mosque shooting video? More people died in 9/11, Columbine, and much more, and video footage of those exist, so why aren't videos of the mosque shooting allowed?
 
I shared the ISIS beheadings and people on fire, and everyone seemed fine.
Ya know there does seem to be one big flaming elephant in the room with the whole "DONT U EBBBER SHAR DA EWIL WIDEO!!!" line of autism....
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First Amendment """""""""""""""""""""expert""""""""""""""""""""". Haven't there been multiple supreme court rulings that speech online is protected? There are only a few instances in the US where speech is justifiably limited, and that's places like schools, prisons and the military.

There have not to my knowledge been any SCOTUS rulings specifically applicable to the subject of speech on the internet, although there are a few existing precedents that could be referenced if a case did come up. The most commonly referenced is the 1946 Marsh v. Alabama ruling. Specifically, Marsh v. Alabama stated that a company town could not prevent an individual from distributing religious materials despite the fact that they owned the property in question; it's more generally been understood to imply that the more you open your private property to the public, the less ability to have to restrict constitutional freedoms on that property. Most arguments for the internet or social media websites as a "public square" where free speech should be protected stem from this principle.
 
Repeating the question I asked in my thread (before it got merged into this one), why is New Zealand and Australia so hellbent on censoring the mosque shooting video? More people died in 9/11, Columbine, and much more, and video footage of those exist, so why aren't videos of the mosque shooting allowed?
Concerns of immediate copycats or retaliations and complying with police, which is why it's (seemingly) temporary in Aussie land. It's obnoxious and I disagree with their reasoning, but it's a little bit different than 9/11 which is now a historical event. I think part of it is also that the video is something he recorded himself, instead of news organizations.

There have not to my knowledge been any SCOTUS rulings specifically applicable to the subject of speech on the internet, although there are a few existing precedents that could be referenced if a case did come up. The most commonly referenced is the 1946 Marsh v. Alabama ruling. Specifically, Marsh v. Alabama stated that a company town could not prevent an individual from distributing religious materials despite the fact that they owned the property in question; it's more generally been understood to imply that the more you open your private property to the public, the less ability to have to restrict constitutional freedoms on that property. Most arguments for the internet or social media websites as a "public square" where free speech should be protected stem from this principle.
I seemingly also remember a supreme court ruling on the idea of obscenity that stated that any speech not deemed obscene is constitutionally protected, and must go through the Miller test. Even internet speech that lacks artistic and political value still often passes the requirement that it not be sexually explicit.
 
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What is the source for that table? Is that homemade via Wikipedia info?
It's aggregated by a aspie at https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/rampage-killings-and-terrorist-attacks.531/
It only includes officially acknowledged attacks though. So officially denied stuff like drone warfare isn't counted in the numbers despite it being an extra-legal assassination program where 9/10 people killed are collateral.

If you're wondering, the numbers in parentheses are perpetrators who died in the attack, like with suicide bombings.


edit: Just wanted to point out that if this CC shooter guy killed as few as 5 actual Jihadi Muslims in his massacre, then he was at least as efficient as the US Executive Drone program wrt collateral death.
 
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Since when? People can be given consequences for the things they say, but to flat out deny you access to information is another story.
The US constitution and it's amendments apply to the US only. We (NZ) have a bill of rights but also laws specifically against hate speech and distribution of media relating to.
 
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So how long you chaps think this overreaction fuckfest will last down in Oceania*?

*a name which is becoming ever more Ironical as the days go by

Australia has a federal election in May. This is a convenient distraction from the real issues so I'd guess it will last until at least then here.

Also, we should rename to moa farms. It's an extinct, flightless NZ bird.
 
I guess we're not even human anymore. That clown would be happy if we got Shoah'd.


As your wife's boyfriend, can confirm.

Found this
https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/19-03-2019/the-online-cesspits-where-hate-found-a-home/
http://archive.li/1XqRD

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That's rich! I guess these tools have never watched Bill Maher
The Social Credit System is here, courtesy of the tech industry being overrun with authoritarian slime who played footsie with the ChiComm shitbags in power in PRC.

The benefits of the H1-B Visa program filling position with terrorist from Pakistan, Socialist from India and Commies from China.
 
>"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
oops.
"If you are unwilling to do so, Congress must consider policies to ensure that terrorist content is not distributed on your platforms — including by studying the examples being set by other countries."
 
The US constitution and it's amendments apply to the US only. We (NZ) have a bill of rights but also laws specifically against hate speech and distribution of media relating to.
I feel sorry for you guys if a factual video of a terrorist attack is legally considered hate speech.
 
On the other side of things. There is one notable critic of Islam, Imam Mohamad Tawhidi. Who sees Islam as fundamentalist in nature, and that it needs to be modernized as the other Abrahamic faiths. This has caused the Islamic community to threaten him online and in the streets.

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He makes a call for sanity and discussion. But when everyone including the media and politicians are against you, I suppose it must be like talking to a brick wall.
 
>"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
oops.
"The video was widely available on your platforms well after the attack, despite calls from New Zealand authorities to take these videos down."
What a fucking retard. Of course he's a democrat. New Zealand has no authority over the US, websites can host the video and manifesto if they wish. I'm almost certain he's just going after the bigwigs to attempt to bully them into compliance, it's not the first time a Congressman has done so. New Zealand and Australia are attempting to do the same thing, and rope the US into interfering with US companies, which is why they're attempting to force it in the upcoming G20 discussion.
 
We (NZ) have a bill of rights but also laws specifically against hate speech and distribution of media relating to.
Footage of 9/11, people throwing themselves down because of the heat of the flames - sorry mate, that's hate speech. Can we at least see that airliners hitting the towers? Sorry, that's hate speech. Towers going down? Sorry mate, we don't support terrists, no video for you
 
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