2019-03-15 - Christchurch Complaints

[Bogdanoff]

i think the response was a mistake. generally antagonizing law enforcement is a terrible idea and the response may well have been incriminating. as funny as Josh being a fugitive from Kiwi justice would be i don't think a warrant for his arrest is worth it for the memes. more importantly it's the kind of thing that will get outsider attention any response should have been targeted to an outside audience. meaning an explicit (none shitpost) statement that you are under US jurisdiction and will not capitulate to censorship from foreign state actors. KF being one of a shrinking number of sites supporting a hard line on free speech it's likely to be increasingly prominent in similar incidents or be the platform of choice for someone dumping newsworthy information. i would consider targeting future communications that are likely to draw attention towards a general audience's sympathies.

Moron, this is a website about poking fun at autists. You think just because the spergery is at the national level, it means the fun needs to stop? Why would we want to appeal to a "general audience" anyways? Take your faggy optics posting elsewhere.

Edit: Holy shit, I just read the rest of this block of text. "Restrict your free speech, otherwise our free speech might be restricted!"
Big. Brain. Takes.

Josh has done an impressive amount to secure the forum from a technical standpoint. i view the biggest threat to the forum as legal action spurred on by media backlash. i'm advocating in the specific instance of high profile cases communication from site administration be aimed at winning friends in the broader discourse that it will get dragged into. in this case that would mean emphasizing American sovereignty, free speech, anti-censorship and the public interest of having the information available.

nothing i'm saying effects other users or means josh should stop being a degenerate feeder laughing at Internet speds, just basic PR when not doing it could endanger the site. my perspective is obviously about pragmatic survival rather than what i think is ideal. i'm probably more black pilled them most about the future of internet freedoms and think you have to play the game at least a bit to stay afloat, if not now in future.


wew lad

So your suggestion, in order to keep our shitposting board online, is to go against the spirit of the website and worry about how we look to the mainstream instead of having fun. Sargon, is that you? Still trying to boot up GamerGate 2.0?

 

[Splendid]

Josh has done an impressive amount to secure the forum from a technical standpoint. i view the biggest threat to the forum as legal action spurred on by media backlash. i'm advocating in the specific instance of high profile cases communication from site administration be aimed at winning friends in the broader discourse that it will get dragged into. in this case that would mean emphasizing American sovereignty, free speech, anti-censorship and the public interest of having the information available.

nothing i'm saying effects other users or means josh should stop being a degenerate feeder laughing at Internet speds, just basic PR when not doing it could endanger the site. my perspective is obviously about pragmatic survival rather than what i think is ideal. i'm probably more black pilled them most about the future of internet freedoms and think you have to play the game at least a bit to stay afloat, if not now in future.


wew lad

Saying what you want how you want it is a core component of free speech. Refusing to do so would be surrendering and taking a step back, which we will not do.

 

[Knojkamarangasan_#4]

How did we end up in the position where an autistic shitposting forum designed to make fun of the creator of Sonichu and run by a self-gulaged Florida Man is now the front line for global free speech? I mean, it's a good thing, but I'm just scratching my head wondering how we got here.

When I woke up yesterday my wife told me about the shooting - and the first site I checked to get information was KF. Not the BBC, not even news sites that are closer to my politics, but KF. And judging by the state of the servers yesterday, I was far from the only one. I don't know how to feel about that - one the one hand it's great that there's somewhere I can get unfiltered news that hasn't been gatekeeped by some idiot journo (I used to work in a job that involved talking to journalists a lot, I have an extremely low opinion of them), but on the other hand it's really worrying that a site as small and weird as KF seems to be one of the last sources of truth and open discussion left on Earth.

Godspeed Null, fighting the power one shitpost at a time.

This so much man, all I wanted to do really was beside Chris stuff, just talk about bizarre people like the hobo Hippie Tommie tooter and crazy fat women like Amberlynn and Chantal. People often call this site ”evil, hateful, alt right whatever” but the truth is, most people just want to talk and gossip about stuff in a place that doesn’t censor the crap out of them for evil wrongthink or mean words. Seriously after I started using the site after lurking for like two years, it’s kinda addictive, but in a good way and you fucking stare back in awe at the ”normie social media” like twitter, instagram etc. God I just hate those sites to death, people can say whatever they want but the truth is, most people just wanna talk in an open space that sadly doesn’t really exist nowadays but outsiders will keep calling it the usual slander and I just laugh. We like to have fun honestly, that’s it really and there’s a real mix of people, trust me 100% not everyone here is part of the ”right wing death squads”

Do I agree with everything and how some people act and do stuff? Fuck no, but i would never sperg out against it or demand it to be removed, reality is harsh and I’d rather have honesty than living a fake basic bitch life.

 

[SparklyFetuses]

NZ authorities: "Wat da fuk iz 'Streisand effect'?"

 

[kcbbq]

NZ authorities: "Wat da fuk iz 'Streisand effect'?"

They'll find out 20 minutes after it doesn't matter anymore, it seems to be their typical response time.

 

[Knucklehead]

Completely disregarding that people could have it downloaded. ?

i downloaded it and saved it to the cloud as well

 

[Punitive Castration]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...-help-police-in-christchurch-terror-case.html

We live in interesting times.

 

[HoTTaKe]

Hey there dramaqueens, newfag here that's superior to your quaint "lurk moar" rules chiming in with my superduper hot take(tm)!

Seen y'all pop up in my periphery over the years, bretttyy gud to see you're not just jerking each other off over faggot e-celebs and that null's autism has inhibited the stop of growth that usually occurs with testicles after puberty. I'm always reluctant to pop in to normie forums like this, but just a quick thoughts that I figured y'all would appreciate.

Before the guy was even in in a police station I could watch the video and read his manifesto and get this guy %100 pegged with no further thought required. No hours and hours of media cunts blah balh blahing. HMM pretty dangerous shit!

Also, this event is the cherry on top of a very very strange news cycle, that happened after a massive dearth of real happenings, then a happening cascade. I had previously quipped to someone last week that certain things were happening in the world and I was just "proceeding as if things were rapidly changing and evolving post 9/11, but without a 9/11 this time" then this shit happens.

PS biggups to the based and redpilled madlad Null, hope they give you one of those extra soft black head protecting bags when you get your free trip to celebrate your principled stance on free speech! JK leave him alone glowniggers.

 

[JosephTX]

Moon says that he is a US citizen based overseas, but claims Kiwi Farms is a company based in Florida.

Apparently a US citizen living overseas, and operating a US company is mutually exclusive.

 

[repentance]

Apparently a US citizen living overseas, and operating a US company is mutually exclusive.

That doesn't seem to be the case at all.

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[HoTTaKe]

Apparently a US citizen living overseas, and operating a US company is mutually exclusive.

This is just MSM

That doesn't seem to be the case at all.

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This is just MSM well poisoning. The average media consumer is ignorant about basically everything, so it seeds doubt, associates a "sketchy sounding inconsistency" with Null, guilt-by-association contaminates the video viewers.

This is just damage control basic bitch psyops.

 

[James Smith]

i think the response was a mistake. generally antagonizing law enforcement is a terrible idea and the response may well have been incriminating.

I don't know about New Zealand, but in the USA it's not incriminating to refuse to let cops search your stuff without a warrant.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I never got the whole "don't say the shooter's name" or "don't share the video of the event" things. This is a fucking massive event that needs to be discussed, not Harry Potter. There's no reason to tiptoe around the shooter's name or DFE about them, none of that shit poses immediate public danger and even forwards the conversation about what happened in some cases.

The problem with "don't say the name that's what they want" is it never stops people from talking about and finding out about the shooter and only causes people to be more intersted in them. Randy Stair was barely touched on by the mainstream media and had/has a cult following and has a 79 page thread on this site simply based on his infamy on chan sites and his old Youtube followers. In the internet age people find out about this stuff and it's not something we can hide anymore like pre-internet day.

 

[AnOminous]

The problem with "don't say the name that's what they want" is it never stops people from talking about and finding out about the shooter and only causes people to be more intersted in them. Randy Stair was barely touched on by the mainstream media and had/has a cult following and has a 79 page thread on this site simply based on his infamy on chan sites and his old Youtube followers. In the internet age people find out about this stuff and it's not something we can hide anymore like pre-internet day.

It never worked. Google Herostratus.

 

[HG 400]

i think the response was a mistake. generally antagonizing law enforcement is a terrible idea and the response may well have been incriminating.

The important thing to remember when dealing with other countries police is that they're in other countries and can go fuck themselves.

 

[James Smith]

It never worked. Google Herostratus.

Technically you don't know that. If it worked by definition you wouldn't know about it.

 

[GS 281]

I never got the whole "don't say the shooter's name" or "don't share the video of the event" things. This is a fucking massive event that needs to be discussed, not Harry Potter. There's no reason to tiptoe around the shooter's name or DFE about them, none of that shit poses immediate public danger and even forwards the conversation about what happened in some cases.

It never worked. Google Herostratus.

What's ironic is that the "dont say their name" approach is what many of our cows took towards KF for years.

Chimp and I talked to Zinnia a while back on skype. Zinnia basically laid it out for us that her and several of her friends who have threads have some sort of agreement where they won't say kf's name much on soc media. Not really because it would bring more attention to them, but because it brings attention to KF.

I used to use twitter and youtube's search function to find what people are saying about us. Tonight I used Google News search. That's sorta a sign of the times and I feel like if that becomes a "new normal", that it would mean we crossed a line. This probably won't be the moment that "makes KF", but it is hard to deny that a moment like that is possible in the near future.

 

[Hecate]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...-help-police-in-christchurch-terror-case.html

"pacific sovereignty [sic]"

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how the fuck is this a [sic]?
the slant in this article is fucking techtonic, though i expect nothing less from NZ news outlets

 

[repentance]

how the fuck is this a [sic]?

"pacific" in this context refers to the Pacific Ocean, so it should be capitalised.

 

[Hecate]

"pacific" in this context refers to the Pacific Ocean, so it should be capitalised.

its hard to tell if thats the intent of that sic, and i think thats why its so fucked up and why i hate the "tag" sic
who can tell if they meant the spelling or the reasoning? fuck if i know, and i think thats on purpose