Are we becoming meaner?

[AnOminous]

Most of the people who get totally carried away with doxing also aren't really good at it. I don't see much utterly pointless unfunny doxing from the people here who are good at it like @zedkissed60 or @Dynastia or about a half dozen others.

 

[HG 400]

Most of the people who get totally carried away with doxing also aren't really good at it. I don't see much utterly pointless unfunny doxing from the people here who are good at it like @zedkissed60 or @Dynastia or about a half dozen others.

I'm actually pretty bad at doxing and no longer enjoy it.

 

[I hate children?]

I've noticed the trend going the other way around. Look at the noodlesandbeef, Schofield, or Jonathan Yaniv threads. The Pearl clutching and moral faggotry are (rightfully) on full display. Hell even in Disco every thread devolves into people either hand wringing or talking about contacting the authorites over dumb shit.

I think a lot of it depends on which threads, and cows you follow.

This right here . The Schofield thread the last two months is so cringeworthy . The melodramatics , the constant social media name dropping about their vlog /their sub plebbit /wth ever else they have made to "document" the information already preserved by knowledgable people here ,on Imgur , on Facebook and by Grey on her YouTube is insane. Not to mention the recently joined people that are contacting or trying to contact Susan and others or people leaking information here getting upset because their leaked information is misconstrued or discussed in a way that offends them . This has become the biggest white knighting ,asshurt , social justice thread here . Nobody here before was trying to contact the cows or crusade into court to rescue the kids and suddenly it is occurring with several members.

I know I infuriated people yesterday because I refused to support either parent and wrote a post asking a what if question that made the plebbiters and some readers mad but some of these same people are indivuals making vanity vlogs for or against Michael . They are emailing and messaging them knowing they are under a gag order for information and perhaps the worst of all ? The suggestion to crowdfund for one of the parents . Do kiwis normally crowd fund for cows .

 

[RG 448]

I think people tend to get mocked for being either too white-knighty or too a-loggy. Difference between now and when I first joined is that now I notice that most users getting called our for going too far in either direction walk away acting like they’re either too righteous or too hardcore for this site, when in reality they’re all just uptight curmudgeons who aren’t having any fun.

 

[ApatheticViewer]

Honestly this https://kiwifarms.net/threads/julie-terryberry.18477/page-200 is the first thing I saw about kiwifarms and it's the worst fucking thing. I don't know the context but it comes across like you drove her to suicide. It really drove me away from the site for long time.

Nothing has ever gotten that worse for me. You guys seem cool to me now

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

I'm a newfriend so I have no basis of comparison to how the farms were earlier on, but comparing kiwifarms to other communities online - it's fairly tame and friendly, surprisingly. Reminds me of forums I've frequented in early 2000s, and in no way is this place an edgyboi proving ground or some other dump where you have to parrot the same opinion or be ostracized, from what I've seen at worst you'll get disagreed at and/or called a cunt.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Honestly this https://kiwifarms.net/threads/julie-terryberry.18477/page-200 is the first thing I saw about kiwifarms and it's the worst fucking thing. I don't know the context but it comes across like you drove her to suicide. It really drove me away from the site for long time.

Nothing has ever gotten that worse for me. You guys seem cool to me now

Julay's demise wasn't on our hands. Now, the A-logging certainly was in poor taste but no one has an hero'd because of the Farms.

 

[Maxliam]

Julay's demise wasn't on our hands. Now, the A-logging certainly was in poor taste but no one has an hero'd because of the Farms.

Just wait until the mosque shooter actually had a account here. I'm sure his posts won't be crazy at all. The fair and balanced media won't insinuate at all that we're training spergy shooters.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Just wait until the mosque shooter actually had a account here. I'm sure his posts won't be crazy at all. The fair and balanced media won't insinuate at all that we're training spergy shooters.

To be totally fair even I'm not convinced your average Kiwi hasn't shot up a school or two.

 

[Maxliam]

To be totally fair even I'm not convinced your average Kiwi hasn't shot up a school or two.

I could see one of us doing a 20th anniversary shooting on columbine. I mean I shitposted enough about them getting lit up in a mosque and honestly I don't feel bad cracking jokes about muzzies dying. I think the Internet was a mistake. I don't feel anything.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I could see one of us doing a 20th anniversary shooting on columbine. I mean I shitposted enough about them getting lit up in a mosque and honestly I don't feel bad cracking jokes about muzzies dying. I think the Internet was a mistake. I don't feel anything.

I miss when internet culture was about watching funny remixes and lolcats and not getting mad about who did and did not get shot in the latest massacre of the week

 

[Maxliam]

I miss when internet culture was about watching funny remixes and lolcats and not getting mad about who did and did not get shot in the latest massacre of the week

Dear god, ray bradbury was right about our sadistic nature in farenheit 451 and so was huxley about the vapid culture we consume. They were both right....I'm now depressed. I'm gonna look at grumpy cat pics.

 

[Indrid Cold]

I think we could step our game up considerably. Opposition is good. The internet is chock-full of spineless, egotistical, soft-shouldered guppies who stagnate all forms of media and communication by attempting to institute some convoluted form of love & respect (aka: censorship). The public clash of ideas, beliefs, and personalities is imperative to healthy societal growth/advancement.

Feigning pleasantries in order to maintain some kinda bullshit "status quo" is not only deceptive, it's also degenerative.

 

[Bob's Vagene]

I'm not sure. I'm new here, but I've been lurking for a bit. I was kind of scared to join, but honestly this place seems a lot more welcoming than I expected. I like it here so far.

 

[I hate children?]

I'm not sure. I'm new here, but I've been lurking for a bit. I was kind of scared to join, but honestly this place seems a lot more welcoming than I expected. I like it here so far.

Longish so I apologize but you can post your opinion here sans ever being banned , never getting a meaningless warning/virtue signal post about your triggering ( innocent) opinion getting you banned forever if you post an opposing comment, won't get umpteen white knights shaming you for having a spine or disagreeing or any of the crap the mods on subplebbits do on that other site . It is a power trip that essentially is akin to them running a business or ending terrorism. It's a goddamn sub not curing cancer or a branch of law enforcement you dolts .

Write something here honest but dumb to others you might get negative ratings , a post teasing you a little or ignored but you will never have some pleb from plebbit using their impotent power to ban you forever from their cancerous subplebbit . You have free speech here even if it annoys others.

 

[Bob's Vagene]

Longish so I apologize but you can post your opinion here sans ever being banned , never getting a meaningless warning/virtue signal post about your triggering ( innocent) opinion getting you banned forever if you post an opposing comment, won't get umpteen white knights shaming you for having a spine or disagreeing or any of the crap the mods on subplebbits do on that other site . It is a power trip that essentially is akin to them running a business or ending terrorism. It's a goddamn sub not curing cancer or a branch of law enforcement you dolts .

Write something here honest but dumb to others you might get negative ratings , a post teasing you a little or ignored but you will never have some pleb from plebbit using their impotent power to ban you forever from their cancerous subplebbit . You have free speech here even if it annoys others.

That's what I really like about this place so far.

Before this I primarily posted on facebook, and I was always either enraging SJWs (for some pretty tame shit), or getting myself banned. I've decided to keep fb for bullshit cat memes and not really post any opinions on it at this point. Plus it's exhausting seeing the same garbage every time you login.

I personally prefer an environment where free speech is appreciated, even if people don't necessarily agree with it, and that seems to be the thing here which is pretty cool. My main reservation was maybe everyone would just be an asshole and hate on me lol, but everyone seems to have a certain level of respect for each other. I mean if someone disgrees with me and I say something stupid, by all means call me a cunt.. but there seems to be a lot of good discussion going on here too. I'm definitely liking this place!

 

[Recoil]

I get the feeling that mean spirited folks might be drawn to KF because:

1. They're unwanted in their own communities
2. They mistake what we do as driven by malice
3. Increased moderation and the PC push in other forums has led to "Freedom Of Speech" being misconstrued as an excuse to act out or behave maliciously.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

The farms feels like the older internet before censorship and banning became the defacto way of dealing with people who had dissenting opinions. The issue with enforced constant censorship on the normie wings of the internet whether through overreach or over zealous moderation is that it's effectively sterilized the internet and made it boring. A lot of forums now, and even the chans increasingly have just become depositories for shit posting.

Now whether it feels mean spirited at times, well that's just people and the nature of A-logs.

 

[Stalinist]

Warning: Incomming rambling essay

I agree with the sentiment that KF is more like the older internet but a huge part of that is just the format and relatively small size, not necessarily the freedom of speech (many older forums had arduous moderating overlording tyrants with their own niche cultures dictating what's relevant and allowed, imageboards where sicc when they arrived because posters weren't serfs serving the forum-aristocracy anymore, mods there where just an invisible hand making sure to contain only the most excessive of the sandboxed activity). KF is not even that true to the old forum formats because (IIRC) they didn't use to have the reactions/likes.

Likes, public display of allegiance to or against an opinion, cross-website identities creating a huge public square, is the main thing that really changed the discourse, and how moderation is handled and perceived. The internet used to be a series of connected Siberian villages, far between large groups of people with many small nooks and crannies with active users(I'm talking pre-YouTube), now it's a giant public Roman square.

People start, even subconsciously, to curtail their opinion to the masses, constantly wary of how exposed a post is to the world, and the thriving voices are those that enjoy this mass-social aspect. Look at how "designed" top-comments on youtube are, how much its author intentionally seeks likes from others.

Pervading hyperpolitical culture and its subsequent moderation hysteria are a product of this amplified public square where people are hyperconscious of a potential readers potential opinion, thus moderators must not only wield the banhammer but wield it in a loud and brutal manner so that there may be no room for doubt or rumors as to what is or isn't a crime/punishment, because if they don't, there's 10000s of people just waiting to scream as loudly as they can, welcoming the hysterical spectacle, doing everything they can to cause a ruckus. Thus moderators overreact, the crowd goes insane, more overreaction, and soon the only thing left is the war between mods and posters, no other topics of discussion remain.

 

[AnOminous]

Warning: Incomming rambling essay

I agree with the sentiment that KF is more like the older internet but a huge part of that is just the format and relatively small size, not necessarily the freedom of speech (many older forums had arduous moderating overlording tyrants with their own niche cultures dictating what's relevant and allowed, imageboards where sicc when they arrived because posters weren't serfs serving the forum-aristocracy anymore, mods there where just an invisible hand making sure to contain only the most excessive of the sandboxed activity). KF is not even that true to the old forum formats because (IIRC) they didn't use to have the reactions/likes.

Likes, public display of allegiance to or against an opinion, cross-website identities creating a huge public square, is the main thing that really changed the discourse, and how moderation is handled and perceived. The internet used to be a series of connected Siberian villages, far between large groups of people with many small nooks and crannies with active users(I'm talking pre-YouTube), now it's a giant public Roman square.

The Internet was better before the web existed and ruined it by making it easy for morons to access it.