🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Reynard]

His oc is a hyper masculine tiger and his depiction of women are that of a straight 80s Arnold Schwarznegger fan. Nobody is safe.

It's honestly worrying that this amount of grooming is going on. Look at that fucking chart. Every single field is "I sexualize every aspect of being a woman". "I imagine having this girl's body", yeah no shit. Don't you think every man wakes up wanting to be stinking rich and brandish a 9" cock?

I just recently came across an old friend of mine who had the personality and willpower of a wet noodle, and he ended up surrounded by these grooming predators. Lo behold, he now calls himself a 'hot futa mommy' and spends every paycheck on porn supporting this idea. He got off to girls with dicks; his peers picked up on this, and now he's castrating himself with hormones because he happened to share fondness for a fantasy genre of porn, and maybe once having seen a really convincing brazilian escort with fake tits.

LGBT: We don't corrupt or abuse children, please, it's been decades!
Furry fandom:

I mean, if they want to do that to themselves, then more power to them. Doesn't hurt me or to my knowledge those around them, so if the want to make poor choices, let them, Don't expect the world to approve and cheer you on if you do that, though.

Still, I'm surprised people will continue to try and be their futanari dream irl when technology isn't really there yet. Will it be? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised with the way the trans thing is spreading to every goddamn corner of the internet and constantly shoves it in your face.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

Bit of powerlevel revealing here (sorry) but before I was ousted from the local furry commune (they called it "Townsville", just to ruin Powerpuff Girls. Not kidding) for essentially telling a post-op transgirl "I'm comfortable being a cisgendered male but I appreciate the suggestion."

 

[Jangarango]

I’m busy and don’t have any links to post, nothing you couldn’t get from just searching about the person on Twitter, but the well known scam artist Vani/AshKetchumSays, notable for having commissions they’ve owed for years and shittalking their clients, apparently went and wiped their Twitter and their FA entirely, including the long list of people they owe art and refunds to.

 

[CIA Nigger]

I’m busy and don’t have any links to post, nothing you couldn’t get from just searching about the person on Twitter, but the well known scam artist Vani/AshKetchumSays, notable for having commissions they’ve owed for years and shittalking their clients, apparently went and wiped their Twitter and their FA entirely, including the long list of people they owe art and refunds to.

She has a long ass rap sheet on the old Artists Beware LJ and some callout posts on Twitter. Hell, even her wikifur page screams "this person scams".

According to Twitter she also has con bans and was driven out of other fandoms as well.

🏹 Horizon Zero Dead on Twitter: "Unfortunately Vani/ashketchumsays h…

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[That Damned Tiger]

The "if you dislike X you must be X" thing caught on in the gay community when there were a lot of news stories like "Anti Gay Lawmaker/Priest/Whatever Is Gay/Caught Fucking Gay Prostitute" or variations of that. With troons, how they see it is if you hate trannies or their community you're really just "repressed trans" or an "egg".

My take on it is, I don't make the occasional trans joke because I might be secretly trans. I make the occasional trans joke because I'm equal opportunity offender. Which ultimately leads to threats over being offended for supposed 'transphobia'.

Which, and I might be powerleveling here slightly, is how I found out this one neckbeard identified as female.

 

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

In a display of totally-not cloutchasing, animator and artist KatiKnitt did a callout post on another, more popular furry artist/animator and her husband about them being transphobic for stating they believe transgenderism is a sin. Something worth noting is the dates of the screenshots, which tells us that this callout is totally organic and not suspicious at all,

https://twitter.com/KatiKnitt/status/1105230385422712833 https://archive.fo/X9j7U

Something worth noting also, is that in the callout post, the target's husband literally states how Trans people should be treated as equals but he regards it as a sin. Kind of a shitty callout post accusing someone of hate when they literally state they should be treated as equals. Notice the not-cloutchaser doesn't respond to a tweet pointing this out.

https://twitter.com/_cellomonster/status/1105298621199732737 https://archive.fo/i3JJ7

The last screenshot in the callout is him literally stating a personal belief that sex shouldn't take place outside marriage. A harmless opinion which they seem to think some grave sin.

 

[Big Bang]

I’m busy and don’t have any links to post, nothing you couldn’t get from just searching about the person on Twitter, but the well known scam artist Vani/AshKetchumSays, notable for having commissions they’ve owed for years and shittalking their clients, apparently went and wiped their Twitter and their FA entirely, including the long list of people they owe art and refunds to.

Is it really any surprise? She owes me a commission she never finished when she was known as VanillaKitsune back in her Kuitsuku-ripping days on deviantART. Nothing's changed then, nothing's changed now.

 

[TheyThem]

from what it looks like Jazzy and John are pretty average Christians, prob not even Trumpers. This wasn't even a juicy callout but people be wiggin out all the same.

Jazzy is a Latino girl with aspergers according to her feed. Kati is some smug White Feminist freaking out over what Jazzy thinks in private based off some 4 year old Tumblr post. Creepy and stalkery. Does KatiKnitt deserve her own thread in La Zorra? this is definitely a pattern with them

also see the "let's make these people homeless" replies

Dr. Robert Von Bahnkenstein on Twitter: "fuck these assholes, may the…

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https://twitter.com/SenorWoberto/status/1105244712577966081

In a display of totally-not cloutchasing, animator and artist KatiKnitt did a callout post on another, more popular furry artist/animator and her husband about them being transphobic for stating they believe transgenderism is a sin. Something worth noting is the dates of the screenshots, which tells us that this callout is totally organic and not suspicious at all,

https://twitter.com/KatiKnitt/status/1105230385422712833 https://archive.fo/X9j7U

Something worth noting also, is that in the callout post, the target's husband literally states how Trans people should be treated as equals but he regards it as a sin. Kind of a shitty callout post accusing someone of hate when they literally state they should be treated as equals. Notice the not-cloutchaser doesn't respond to a tweet pointing this out.

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https://twitter.com/_cellomonster/status/1105298621199732737 https://archive.fo/i3JJ7

The last screenshot in the callout is him literally stating a personal belief that sex shouldn't take place outside marriage. A harmless opinion which they seem to think some grave sin.

 

[Poto]

In a display of totally-not cloutchasing, animator and artist KatiKnitt did a callout post on another, more popular furry artist/animator and her husband about them being transphobic for stating they believe transgenderism is a sin. Something worth noting is the dates of the screenshots, which tells us that this callout is totally organic and not suspicious at all,

https://twitter.com/KatiKnitt/status/1105230385422712833 https://archive.fo/X9j7U

Something worth noting also, is that in the callout post, the target's husband literally states how Trans people should be treated as equals but he regards it as a sin. Kind of a shitty callout post accusing someone of hate when they literally state they should be treated as equals. Notice the not-cloutchaser doesn't respond to a tweet pointing this out.

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https://twitter.com/_cellomonster/status/1105298621199732737 https://archive.fo/i3JJ7

The last screenshot in the callout is him literally stating a personal belief that sex shouldn't take place outside marriage. A harmless opinion which they seem to think some grave sin.

Dear me, can't they just think to make themselves happy first instead of trying to find a reason to be unhappy to not admit they've fucked up hard and they never truly were trans?

There will always be someone who thinks this is weird, it is bloody weird, but at the end, you live you life and other's though shouldn't harm your life. I guess they'd rather bring as much people in their sad catastrophe of a life to not feel as bad, I guess.

 

[That Damned Tiger]

Dear me, can't they just think to make themselves happy first instead of trying to find a reason to be unhappy to not admit they've fucked up hard and they never truly were trans?

There will always be someone who thinks this is weird, it is bloody weird, but at the end, you live you life and other's though shouldn't harm your life. I guess they'd rather bring as much people in their sad catastrophe of a life to not feel as bad, I guess.

No. No they can't. Because misery loves company.

 

[Jaiman]

I learned gossip is toxic and trust is good.

I don't trust furries, especially furries who involve their own children with fetishes.

 

[gracious bobbly bits]

from what it looks like Jazzy and John are pretty average Christians, prob not even Trumpers. This wasn't even a juicy callout but people be wiggin out all the same.

Jazzy is a Latino girl with aspergers according to her feed. Kati is some smug White Feminist freaking out over what Jazzy thinks in private based off some 4 year old Tumblr post. Creepy and stalkery. Does KatiKnitt deserve her own thread in La Zorra? this is definitely a pattern with them

also see the "let's make these people homeless" replies

Dr. Robert Von Bahnkenstein on Twitter: "fuck these assholes, may the…

archived 12 Mar 2019 05:00:44 UTC

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https://twitter.com/SenorWoberto/status/1105244712577966081

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Doug TenNapel, creator of Earthworm Jim, has got involved:

Doug TenNapel on Twitter: "You lie. @MissJazzDaFunk and her boyfriend…

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https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1105301062578331654

Doug TenNapel on Twitter: "What pisses me off is that Christians will…

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https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1105307090074157056

Doug TenNapel on Twitter: "You're wrong. @MissJazzDaFunk was targeted…

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https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1105301648392548353

 

[TheyThem]

Doug TenNapel, creator of Earthworm Jim, has got involved

 

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

from what it looks like Jazzy and John are pretty average Christians, prob not even Trumpers. This wasn't even a juicy callout but people be wiggin out all the same.

Jazzy is a Latino girl with aspergers according to her feed. Kati is some smug White Feminist freaking out over what Jazzy thinks in private based off some 4 year old Tumblr post. Creepy and stalkery. Does KatiKnitt deserve her own thread in La Zorra? this is definitely a pattern with them

also see the "let's make these people homeless" replies

Dr. Robert Von Bahnkenstein on Twitter: "fuck these assholes, may the…

archived 12 Mar 2019 05:00:44 UTC

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https://twitter.com/SenorWoberto/status/1105244712577966081

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I'm hearing this person is definitely stalkerish and has tried this kind of thing before. But wasn't provided any proofs, so take it as hearsay.

If that's true, even by the standards of intersectionality, not only is she targeting a non-neurotypical person, but also an ethnic minority. But they're never for those groups really. It's something altogether more cynical.

I think the follower disparity and fame disparity, the fact all the posts were from a good while ago and the fact they chose to make a call-out post makes it clear this is a case of clout chasing. A power play. They might dress up their abusive actions in moral clothing, but brass tacks, they're always looking for an excuse to morally hurt people. It's what these people do to try and gain easy clout. And they don't care who they hurt along the way.

It reminds me an old 4chan post, talking about this. Using minority status to gain social or financial clout. They call it 'blood slinging', and should sound familiar to anyone who has observed these dramas.

Dear me, can't they just think to make themselves happy first instead of trying to find a reason to be unhappy to not admit they've fucked up hard and they never truly were trans?

There will always be someone who thinks this is weird, it is bloody weird, but at the end, you live you life and other's though shouldn't harm your life. I guess they'd rather bring as much people in their sad catastrophe of a life to not feel as bad, I guess.

Yeah I don't get the ones who act as though the entire world has to validate who they are or what they like. They are the most obnoxious, and it seems like that's the majority of what the call-out is. The fact they're Christians and have stated a belief.

Also notice their rhetoric. Despite never interacting with them. Or even them telling her their views, she acts personally wounded. Probable narcissist.

 

[Sintharia]

Doug TenNapel, creator of Earthworm Jim, has got involved:

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Doug TenNapel on Twitter: "You lie. @MissJazzDaFunk and her boyfriend…

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https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1105301062578331654

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Doug TenNapel on Twitter: "What pisses me off is that Christians will…

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https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1105307090074157056

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Doug TenNapel on Twitter: "You're wrong. @MissJazzDaFunk was targeted…

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https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1105301648392548353

He's seriously playing the "poor, persecuted Christian" card? That's a riot.

 

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Yeah, ok Doug.

 

[Reynard]

I think the interesting thing is that they're getting mad at someone for agreeing to disagree. Jazz doesn't seem to really be a fan of LGBT shenanigans, but at the same time, she never said they're not allowed to do those things, that they should be persecuted, that they should be seen as below others, or anything. She actually went out of her way to say that they should be treated as equals.

Maybe the trans community would be taken more seriously by the general populace if its members would start speaking out against people who are actually undermining their quest for equality instead of going after people too busy with life to pay attention to anything but things directly related to themselves?

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Yeah, ok Doug.

Expecting any artist to not be at least a little bit of a perv is like expecting snow at the equator. That's honestly some of the most tame shit I've seen in terms of furry art, so she's a hell of a lot more wholesome than every other furry on Twitter.

 

[gracious bobbly bits]

I had no idea Strype was on the troon bandwagon as well but then again the last drama I remember Strype for was being a popufur artist shoving themselves on the e621 dnp list, something that hurts your career given that more and more furries go on e621 due to the superior tagging system.

Is it any shock that Strype's a troon as well:
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and hangs around other troons:
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I did try archiving their current twitter feed and they were already on the troon bandwagon 2 years ago.

Strype has made a trans bingo card in order to encourage more hatching of eggs. According to him, having an interest in tabletop gaming, getting bullied and being interested in art and writing means you're trans:

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https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105248194471055360

Not even denying or trying to hide that it's a social contagion:

https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105519670088601601

Strype on Twitter: "I figure it's a "gender cascade". One person come…

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However, he is not going to be transitioning IRL:

Strype on Twitter: "You can be totally valid and not have to physical…

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https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105316137435308032

Not everyone buys it:

https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105249855126020097

Strype on Twitter: "a fair point.... but it sure happens with trans l…

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[Reynard]

Strype has made a trans bingo card in order to encourage more hatching of eggs. According to him, having an interest in tabletop gaming, getting bullied and being interested in art and writing means you're trans:

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Strype on Twitter: "By popular demand! Time to make some omelettes… "

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https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105248194471055360

Not even denying or trying to hide that it's a social contagion:

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https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105519670088601601

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However, he is not going to be transitioning IRL:

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https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105316137435308032

Not everyone buys it:

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https://twitter.com/StrypeisonFire/status/1105249855126020097

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Go home and redo this, Strype. You're supposed to only have one free space on a bingo board, not nine! (Yes, I counted, bitch!)

Also, adding the "obsessed with my female OC" thing is you inflating your ego. Liking your fursona as a chick doesn't say jack shit about being trans, it just means they're a fan of you. I'm honestly not sure if he's that full of himself or if he's trying to tell everyone who follows him they're trans in some weird "fanbase of my idea of a master race" sort of concept. Hell, I'm not sure which option would make me feel worse.

 

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

I think the interesting thing is that they're getting mad at someone for agreeing to disagree. Jazz doesn't seem to really be a fan of LGBT shenanigans, but at the same time, she never said they're not allowed to do those things, that they should be persecuted, that they should be seen as below others, or anything. She actually went out of her way to say that they should be treated as equals.

Maybe the trans community would be taken more seriously by the general populace if its members would start speaking out against people who are actually undermining their quest for equality instead of going after people too busy with life to pay attention to anything but things directly related to themselves?


Expecting any artist to not be at least a little bit of a perv is like expecting snow at the equator. That's honestly some of the most tame shit I've seen in terms of furry art, so she's a hell of a lot more wholesome than every other furry on Twitter.

The callout is literally about thoughtcrime. The callout poster even had to explicitly state that they keep it as a personal opinion.

I think it's obvious to anyone watching that this is a power play. And It's heartening to see them not bend the knee. What with tucker Carlson and all, it seems the cultural memetic knowledge of how to deal with outrage e-mobs has spread even to the relative mainstream. I really think give it a week or two, the outrage mob will have moved on, chasing the next dopamine hit.