Race Realists and Racialists

[Male Idiot]

Common sense also says the sun goes around the Earth.

I am just reporting it as it is, though I wonder why iq scores are not the same around the world, though that put asians as the smartest which is not something most white supremacists would imagine.

But than you would think wood is mostly matter, not empty spaces between atoms.

 

[Terrorist]

The thing about IQ essentialism is they don't really commit to it. The same people complain constantly about Jewish subversion, when isn't that, in their ideology, just nature taking its course with higher-number people outsmarting lower-number people? They use IQ to explain why the browns are so behind, but when Jews or Azns who score higher best white people, it's suddenly unfair, as if wypipo were using The Noble White Man's Rulebook in their conquests and those other guys are a bunch of dirty lying cheats.

If "Race Realists" actually were the realists they claimed to be, wouldn't they view ZOG or whatever as the natural triumph of people who, by race realists' own standards, are superior, over the inferior? It's idiotic to complain about unfairness if you're a social darwinist.

 

[Male Idiot]

Oh I know, they reee about smart jews and super smart japanese waifus. I was just pointing out that they only like facts about dum dum africans, but not when slanteyes beats them.

I mistakenly did not point it out, but there is also almost no prejudice against the fair skinned asians here. Japanese are particulary held in the same regards as any pure white nation and offered every respect due to an upstanding hungarian.

 

[NN 401]

Somebody mentioned Red Ice on here. I remember watching a vid from theirs and the presenter sperged on about how she wanted to have babies that "looked like her" hence why she wouldn't race mix.

Needless to say I found this the most confusing thing...

Can someone explain to me what the fuck that even means? Do these people not understand genetics? Regardless of who you have kids with your children carry on your genes into the future. In the face of that why does it matter if they do or don't look like you?

Like if the kid came out with a cleft palate and two left feet it would still look like you if they had blue eyes, and blonde hair? What if you have a white baby that presents none of the phenotypes of either your wife or yourself?
Are they implying that all white people look alike?

Or can they not see past the brown tint in their skin to see that the child obviously has their father or mother's facial features? Nose, hair, lips etc.

IDK, out of all the things that race realists go on about this just seemed to disturb me the most. The idea that your kids have to be carbon, physical copy of yourself and if they aren't then its a problem.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Somebody mentioned Red Ice on here. I remember watching a vid from theirs and the presenter sperged on about how she wanted to have babies that "looked like her" hence why she wouldn't race mix.

Needless to say I found this the most confusing thing...

Can someone explain to me what the fuck that even means? Do these people not understand genetics? Regardless of who you have kids with your children carry on your genes into the future. In the face of that why does it matter if they do or don't look like you?

Like if the kid came out with a cleft palate and two left feet it would still look like you if they had blue eyes, and blonde hair? What if you have a white baby that presents none of the phenotypes of either your wife or yourself?
Are they implying that all white people look alike?

Or can they not see past the brown tint in their skin to see that the child obviously has their father or mother's facial features? Nose, hair, lips etc.

IDK, out of all the things that race realists go on about this just seemed to disturb me the most. The idea that your kids have to be carbon, physical copy of yourself and if they aren't then its a problem.

A lot of race-obsessed people literally can't see past skin color (or in extreme cases, specific anatomical features). That's why they're obsessed with race.

 

[Male Idiot]

Somebody mentioned Red Ice on here. I remember watching a vid from theirs and the presenter sperged on about how she wanted to have babies that "looked like her" hence why she wouldn't race mix.

Needless to say I found this the most confusing thing...

Can someone explain to me what the fuck that even means? Do these people not understand genetics? Regardless of who you have kids with your children carry on your genes into the future. In the face of that why does it matter if they do or don't look like you?

Like if the kid came out with a cleft palate and two left feet it would still look like you if they had blue eyes, and blonde hair? What if you have a white baby that presents none of the phenotypes of either your wife or yourself?
Are they implying that all white people look alike?

Or can they not see past the brown tint in their skin to see that the child obviously has their father or mother's facial features? Nose, hair, lips etc.

IDK, out of all the things that race realists go on about this just seemed to disturb me the most. The idea that your kids have to be carbon, physical copy of yourself and if they aren't then its a problem.

It is apparently due to caveman tribal instincts, at least according to etology(i do not know its english name, animal psychology) that was developed to keep the tribe safe. A lot of human civilisation advances faster than biology. Like how most people are nervous to be within 2 meters of a stranger. Thus people dislike overworked public transportations.

This is also why you do not like if stangers strare at you in mcdonalds. After too many stare at customers experiments, the university was banned from some fast food restaurants.

 

[NN 401]

It is apparently due to caveman tribal instincts, at least according to etology(i do not know its english name, animal psychology) that was developed to keep the tribe safe. A lot of human civilisation advances faster than biology. Like how most people are nervous to be within 2 meters of a stranger. Thus people dislike overworked public transportations.

This is also why you do not like if stangers strare at you in mcdonalds. After too many stare at customers experiments, the university was banned from some fast food restaurants.

This doesn’t apply to your own kids!

Unless you are an absolute sociopath who shouldn’t be having them in the first place.

I hate to rain on peoples’ parades but children are just as likely to not present their parents’ genetic markers until well into puberty.

My point is that the unfortunate implication these “race realists” are floating is that all white people look alike.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Somebody mentioned Red Ice on here. I remember watching a vid from theirs and the presenter sperged on about how she wanted to have babies that "looked like her" hence why she wouldn't race mix.

Needless to say I found this the most confusing thing...

Can someone explain to me what the fuck that even means? Do these people not understand genetics? Regardless of who you have kids with your children carry on your genes into the future. In the face of that why does it matter if they do or don't look like you?

Like if the kid came out with a cleft palate and two left feet it would still look like you if they had blue eyes, and blonde hair? What if you have a white baby that presents none of the phenotypes of either your wife or yourself?
Are they implying that all white people look alike?

Or can they not see past the brown tint in their skin to see that the child obviously has their father or mother's facial features? Nose, hair, lips etc.

IDK, out of all the things that race realists go on about this just seemed to disturb me the most. The idea that your kids have to be carbon, physical copy of yourself and if they aren't then its a problem.

It's literally just an attempt to mask naked racism with an allegedly reasonable "but I need to further my genetics" justification. Even though genetics as a science predate the modern conception of whiteness.

 

[sperginity]

I saw jordan peterson say something about how some ethnicities have more genuises than others and that the result is over representation in positions of authority in societies containing multiple ethinicities.

Stephan Moyneux talked about how banning cousin marriages would increase the IQ of the (predominantly african and middle eastern) societies that allow them.

are these race realist positions? y/n? I'm new to this topic.

I got real fucking irritated in a college class being told that race is a social construct when I know of medical differences (the ones I am aware of have nothing to do with intellect, it is stuff like cystic fibrosis being a risk for northern europeans, hispanic communities having way more O- blood so blood drives try to advertise in spanish, sickle cell anemia is a risk for people with african acestry, etc). The dipshit psych professor tried to tell me that he watched a documentary that debunked the medical differences. There is so much butthurt around this topic in every direction it is hard to know who is telling the truth.

 

[Male Idiot]

This doesn’t apply to your own kids!

Unless you are an absolute sociopath who shouldn’t be having them in the first place.

I hate to rain on peoples’ parades but children are just as likely to not present their parents’ genetic markers until well into puberty.

My point is that the unfortunate implication these “race realists” are floating is that all white people look alike.

Morality has no place when instincts are discussed. This instinct just makes that person dislike the idea, but any interracial child, if kept, would trigger maternal instincts. Now it would be the question of which insnstinct is the stronger.

The end reasult is an equotation between conscious thougt, xenphobic and maternal insincts.

The conscious mind does not allways win, but this also applies both ways. Should a racist white woman be forced to take care of a black kid, like lets say as ananny job that really pays well, she.may end up protective despitw her moral views.

Humans arw bio machines that are aubject to instincts

 

[NN 401]

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I think you have to remember that despite the propensity for certain races to be at higher risks for certain medical illnesses it doesn't preclude overlap.

White people get sickle cell anemia, have o- blood types etc.

And everyone is getting fat and getting diabetes these days.

It'd be one thing if black people ONLY ever got sickle cell or whatever.

There a trends and tendencies, and some of it is directly the result of environmental pressures like malaria, but that doesn't mean our similarities should be tossed out the window because of a few minor differences.

Men, women and different races all overlap in more ways than we differ.

Fun fact: African American women approach White males in bone density.

Bones in different races

Morality has no place when instincts are discussed. This instinct just makes that person dislike the idea, but any interracial child, if kept, would trigger maternal instincts. Now it would be the question of which insnstinct is the stronger.

My point is that any woman who carries a child in her womb for 9 months and then rejects it because it doesn't look like her. Or contemplates doing so is a psychotic, unmaternal twit unfit for motherhood.

Birth for the entirety of the human race has been fraught with danger and death that I can't see what evolutionary advantage there would be in having such a psychological trigger in human females.

There's a reason " a face only a mother could love" exists as a trope.

 

[Male Idiot]

Also there is a trend to look only at intelligence.

Any other qualities a human has ia overlooked. I feel this trend was started by liberals and their dumdum redneck motto.

But would you prefer a hard working, christian and law abiding black janitor or prefer the lgbtabc liberal arts degree 35 year old who mooches off patreon and never contributed to society ,but is woke and white?

 

[ElAbominacion]

Considering that sickle-cell anemia is the milder form of a genetic mutation that is generally responsible for its fair share of infant deaths, one could argue its prevalence in Africa is due to the fact they had to evolve side by side with malaria, and sickle cell anemia people are actually immune to malaria for several reasons. Notwithstanding, I think it's a bit dishonest to present human biodiversity as race realism and so on. I've met plenty of extremely high IQ people of all races and I've also met extremely low IQ people of all races. What's funny is how detached the smartest were from the rest of society. You can literally single them out in a crowd.

That said, we're all of the same species because evidently we're able to interbreed, but we might be of different subspecies with various claves having evolved for the environmental tolerances of different places. To say that evolution can't take place in a matter of a thousand years, for instance, is to be extremely facetious about biology.

It's more important to look at things like bone density, prevalence of certain diseases in a demographic group, what gene markers in what sequences show up more frequently from ethnic group A to ethnic group B and ascertain the similarities of groups that are separate but living in close vicinity. An example of this was that study that found the Druze in Lebanon are close to Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews genetically.

 

[Stoneheart]

Common sense also says the sun goes around the Earth.

Thats not true. Common sense would be that the earth goes around the sun and the moon around the earth.
most people actually believe that the earth goes around the sun, its very hard to understand that both actually rotate around the barycentre of the solsystem.

Im also very tired of the idea of whiteness. There is no clear correlation between skin colour and humanity, Japanese are not white and human while Polish are white but subhuman animals.

That said, we're all of the same species because evidently we're able to interbreed, but we might be of different subspecies with various claves having evolved for the environmental tolerances of different places. To say that evolution can't take place in a matter of a thousand years, for instance, is to be extremely facetious about biology.

Well that species concept you use is the best, but its still not correct... every day we find more and more interspecies breeding in the world, there are also studies that show that some interracial breeding in humans is alot harder and less succesfull than other that Screams ring species.

Also Evolution never takes place in thousands of years, the time periode is much shorter if you mean Speciation, evolution never stops... You normaly have long periodes of diversification of genetics and short periodes of speciation caused by outside factors.

 

[ElAbominacion]

Also Evolution never takes place in thousands of years, the time periode is much shorter if you mean Speciation, evolution never stops... You normaly have long periodes of diversification of genetics and short periodes of speciation caused by outside factors.

You're correct that evolution can happen in a much shorter time frame. However, we are heavily specialized, multi-cellular type organisms and any slight change in our DNA chains are minimal compared to the evolution a species of bacteria or even fungus can have. The more complex the being, the slower the evolution will be.

I do believe that 'races' as we see them in humans exist only in the context of subspecies and you are correct that it is often difficult for ethnicity X to interbreed successfully with ethnicity Y, and this act is not without its challenges (see blood marrow donation issues for mulattoes on this) but I also think we were not meant to fly or create devices with supersonic speeds or instantaneous communication devices. We did all of these things, somehow, and instead of wanting to use our non-negligible resources at our disposal to improve the lot of the lives of other races/ethnicities around the world in their homelands, we think it charitable to invite them to ours instead.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Also there is a trend to look only at intelligence.
Any other qualities a human has ia overlooked. I feel this trend was started by liberals and their dumdum redneck motto.

It was actually started by Modernist tendencies to embrace rationality as the sole guiding virtue; such ideas are only "liberal" if you insist on bipolar categorization of all things, and are not exclusive to the Left by any measure.

 

[Male Idiot]

It was actually started by Modernist tendencies to embrace rationality as the sole guiding virtue; such ideas are only "liberal" if you insist on bipolar categorization of all things, and are not exclusive to the Left by any measure.

They invented it as a way to look down on rednecks but now their opponents use it too.

You're correct that evolution can happen in a much shorter time frame. However, we are heavily specialized, multi-cellular type organisms and any slight change in our DNA chains are minimal compared to the evolution a species of bacteria or even fungus can have. The more complex the being, the slower the evolution will be.

I do believe that 'races' as we see them in humans exist only in the context of subspecies and you are correct that it is often difficult for ethnicity X to interbreed successfully with ethnicity Y, and this act is not without its challenges (see blood marrow donation issues for mulattoes on this) but I also think we were not meant to fly or create devices with supersonic speeds or instantaneous communication devices. We did all of these things, somehow, and instead of wanting to use our non-negligible resources at our disposal to improve the lot of the lives of other races/ethnicities around the world in their homelands, we think it charitable to invite them to ours instead.

I do wonder if german shepards are racists. They dislike small dogs usually. If you think on it dogs got way more races than humans do.

I think subspecies is the closest approximation.

But modern society does put a dampner on survival of the fittest and Idiocracy seems very prophetic to me.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

They invented it as a way to look down on rednecks but now their opponents use it too.



I do wonder if german shepards are racists. They dislike small dogs usually. If you think on it dogs got way more races than humans do.

I think subspecies is the closest approximation.

But modern society does put a dampner on survival of the fittest and Idiocracy seems very prophetic to me.

The idea that lower IQ=lower moral character predates the entire redneck stereotype by several centuries, man.

 

[Male Idiot]

The idea that lower IQ=lower moral character predates the entire redneck stereotype by several centuries, man.

In the past it used to be not intellect but your family's standing in the feudal order but do please educate me unwashed peasant, noble one. I am pretty sure it is recent, historically speaking, or at least a dead greek idea dug up again.

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Perhaps one day a man's moral character will not be judged on skin colour or intelligence but whenever they keep their word and eat a certain tasty red hat.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

In the past it used to be not intellect but your family's standing in the feudal order but do please educate me unwashed peasant, noble one. I am pretty sure it is recent, historically speaking, or at least a dead greek idea dug up again.

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Perhaps one day a man's moral character will not be judged on skin colour or intelligence but whenever they keep their word and eat a certain tasty red hat.

Intelligence has been tied to moral standing from the Greeks forward in Western civilization. The fact that moral standing was also tied with good breeding does not negate that, just like environmental factors affecting intelligence doesn't negate genetic factors affecting intelligence or vice versa.