UN House approves $5 billion in border wall funding - Nancy Pelosi absolutely seething sources say

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WASHINGTON – A deeply divided House voted on Thursday to add $5 billion in border wall funding to a short-term spending bill, yielding to President Donald Trump’s demand for the money but casting further doubts upon the fate of efforts to avert a government shutdown.

The bill, which the Houseapproved by a vote of 217-185, now heads back to the Senate, which must either approve the measure or risk shutting down a quarter of the government at midnight Friday. A Senate vote is expected Friday afternoon.

The House vote capped a drama-filled day that started with lawmakers anticipating quick passage of an already approved Senate funding bill, but then erupted into chaos when Trump announced he would not support the measure because it did not contain funding for the border wall – one of his signature campaign promises.

“I’ve made my position very clear: Any measure that funds the government must include border security,” Trump said at the White House.

At an Oval Office meeting a few hours earlier, Trump had informed House GOP leaders that he would not sign the Senate version, sending them scrambling to deliver new legislation that included $5 billion in border wall funding.

“We want to keep the government open, but we also want to see an agreement that protects the border,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis. “We have very serious concerns about securing our border.”

Lawmakers have until midnight Friday to pass a spending bill or funding will expire for a quarter of the federal government, triggering a shutdown heading into the holidays and forcing some 800,000 federal employees to go on furlough or work without pay.

Congress is trying to end the budget stalemate and avert a government shutdown by piecing together a short-term measure that would keep the funds flowing through early next year.

The Senate voted Wednesday night to approve a short-term spending bill offered by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., that would fund the government through Feb. 8 but would delay any decision on border wall funding until next year.

But hardline conservatives in the House revolted because the Senate bill did not include Trump’s border funding, even though he had insisted during the presidential campaign that he’d make Mexico pay for the wall. Trump’s announcement that he would not sign the Senate measure sealed its fate.

The House responded by introducing its own spending package that also would fund the government through Feb. 8, but would include $5.7 billion for a border wall and nearly $8 billion in disaster relief to compensate communities hit hard by this year’s hurricanes and wildfires.

The border funding in the House proposal won’t be enough to build the wall but will improve border security, said Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla.

“This is about keeping America safe – it’s not a complicated vote,” said House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La.

Democrats accused Republicans of catering to a “Trump Twitter tantrum” and warned that the House bill would be dead on arrival in the Senate.

“This is a sham and a shame,” said Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas.

Hardline conservatives in the House Freedom Caucus insisted now is the GOP’s last chance to deliver on Trump’s campaign promise to build a border wall since Democrats will resume control of the House in January and their leader, Nancy Pelosi, will return as speaker.

“We’ve been telling the American public that we were going to fight, they have no reason to believe us now,” said Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., a Freedom Caucus member.

Said Freedom Caucus member Scott Perry, R-Penn.: “We made a promise to the American people to secure the border. This is our last chance. Nancy Pelosi will not do this.”

The uncertainty over the funding bill – and the chaos that ensued – was heightened by Trump’s constantly shifting position on the legislation.

Last week, Trump boasted during an Oval Office meeting with Democratic leaders that he would be “proud” to shut down the government over border funding and that he’d be willing to take the blame for any fallout.

But on Tuesday, the White House signaled that Trump was looking for other ways to fund a border wall and that he might be willing to sign a short-term spending bill that did not include the money.

Thursday morning, Trump took to Twitter and posted a message about his demands for a border wall funding but did not specifically comment on the Senate’s short-term bill.

“When I begrudgingly signed the Omnibus Bill, I was promised the Wall and Border Security by leadership. Would be done by end of year (NOW). It didn’t happen! We foolishly fight for Border Security for other countries - but not for our beloved U.S.A. Not good!” he wrote.

By the time House GOP leaders headed to the White House for their emergency meeting with Trump, it was clear he had changed his mind.

“At this moment, the president does not want to go further without border security, which includes steel slats or a wall,” White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said. “The president is continuing to weigh his options.”

Following the meeting with Republicans, Sanders issued another statement saying that "not surprisingly, they all feel strongly about border security – stopping the flow of drugs, stopping human trafficking, and stopping terrorism."

"We protect nations all over the world, but Democrats are unwilling to protect our nation," she said. "We urgently need funding for border security and that includes a wall."

Back on Capitol Hill, Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said Democrats have no intention of approving money for a border wall.

"In terms of wall funding, that’s a non-starter," Pelosi said.

Congress is scrambling to pass a short-term spending bill because lawmakers still haven’t passed seven of the 12 appropriations bills that are needed to fund the government for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1.

The seven remaining bills would fund nine departments – Agriculture, Commerce, Justice, Homeland Security, Interior, State, Transportation, Treasury and Housing and Urban Development – as well as several smaller agencies. Those are the departments and agencies that would be impacted by a government shutdown.
 
Like someone said last page, they are Paying for it in a way i.e. keeping their undesirables.
That's funny because Wolf Blitzer quite explicitly asked at :12 in that clip "So if you don't get an actual check from the Mexican government for 8 or 10 or 12 billion dollars, whatever it will cost, how are you going to make them pay for the wall?" To which Trump responded "I will."

No matter how you slice it, Trump failed and now we have to pay for it.
 
Usa is so weird... in normal country you build a fee passes and restrict law and that's all, no need of 5 billions to build a wall

this is depressing to know how you waste moneys you could fund to other countries

and someone has to vote for this moron, I doubt hilarious girl would be better but... seriously, do you have brain?
Whatever you say, Rocket Grunt.

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Negotiating tactic.
In a way, they are paying for it anyway by keeping their criminals, thieves and rapists.
Mexico has barely any money to keep itself from collapsing due to all the corruption/stupidity/incompetence
Where the fuck do you expect them to get money for the wall withough taking 200 years to build?
Like someone said last page, they are Paying for it in a way i.e. keeping their undesirables.
There's mental gymnastics, then there's A&H.
 
That's funny because Wolf Blitzer quite explicitly asked at :12 in that clip "So if you don't get an actual check from the Mexican government for 8 or 10 or 12 billion dollars, whatever it will cost, how are you going to make them pay for the wall?" To which Trump responded "I will."

No matter how you slice it, Trump failed and now we have to pay for it.
I mean, I honestly don't give a shit man, I just play vidya and smoke ciggies.
 
Mexico was never going to pay for the wall and Trump knew it. He lied for the sake of a cool political slogan. As long as the border is secured I don't care much but it's retarded to pretend it wasn't bullshit.
 
That's funny because Wolf Blitzer quite explicitly asked at :12 in that clip "So if you don't get an actual check from the Mexican government for 8 or 10 or 12 billion dollars, whatever it will cost, how are you going to make them pay for the wall?" To which Trump responded "I will."

No matter how you slice it, Trump failed and now we have to pay for it.
The USMCA was a pretty damned good smack in the right direction when it came to taking money out of Mexico's pockets. Failing that: So it'll cost us another $5,000,000,000 to help curb a problem that costs us tens of billions, maybe even hundreds of billions of dollars a year.

And yeah, another. Seriously, am I the only one keeping track of how many of these "concessions" that Congress keeps making towards the wall? The last time I bothered to do the math there's been at least $20 billion or so shoveled towards the project. I'm still baffled by how every single time this happens, everyone involved just keeps pretending like it was the first time any money was put towards the wall.

That's kind of why I've put all this political stuff on the back-burner for awhile now. Everyone's just kind of... Running in circles and screaming the same things on both sides of the fence every single day. It's gotten kind of boring to participate in the conversations, it's not like anything even changes by bunkering down and going apeshit, no matter which "side" you're on.
 
The USMCA was a pretty damned good smack in the right direction when it came to taking money out of Mexico's pockets. Failing that: So it'll cost us another $5,000,000,000 to help curb a problem that costs us tens of billions, maybe even hundreds of billions of dollars a year.

And yeah, another. Seriously, am I the only one keeping track of how many of these "concessions" that Congress keeps making towards the wall? The last time I bothered to do the math there's been at least $20 billion or so shoveled towards the project. I'm still baffled by how every single time this happens, everyone involved just keeps pretending like it was the first time any money was put towards the wall.

That's kind of why I've put all this political stuff on the back-burner for awhile now. Everyone's just kind of... Running in circles and screaming the same things on both sides of the fence every single day. It's gotten kind of boring to participate in the conversations, it's not like anything even changes by bunkering down and going apeshit, no matter which "side" you're on.
So what you're saying is he didn't do what he promised.
 
Mexico was never going to pay for the wall and Trump knew it. He lied for the sake of a cool political slogan. As long as the border is secured I don't care much but it's exceptional to pretend it wasn't bullshit.

It's bullshit, but politics is and always has been the art of bullshiting. And that's not news to anybody, especially not to Trump voters or the TDS-sufferers posturing like they've come only recently to the shocking and upsetting revelation that politicians make big, unkeepable promises. Please.

And I'm sure nobody who voted for Trump is that upset. Nobody voted for him thinking he was a paragon of morality. (That's why they don't care about Stormy Daniels.) They're just glad something seems to be happening on border security so the next weasely shitlib in the White House will have to physically tear the wall down on camera and be on the record welcoming a flood of worthless illegals into a country that has made it clear it doesn't want them sneaking in.
 
So what you're saying is he didn't do what he promised.
Politicians not doing what they promised in their campaign is a staple of their position. Not expecting that is foolish.
But hell, in this case, a half-promise is more than nothing so we might as well take what we get. Besides, he forced Mexico to the table on a new trade deal to replace NAFTA so he's got them on the point one way, even if it's not money.

Also, shit, I expected him to fight for this until his 2nd term if he got one and he's about to get it mid-way through his first. I'm actually impressed.
 
So what you're saying is he didn't do what he promised.
I'm saying that everyone's gotten so obsessed with tearing apart the day-to-day just to find the one, little tidbit they can use to make themselves or someone else miserable that everyone's completely lost sight of how well the big picture is going, and I've just hit the point where I can't be bothered to try and explain it to anyone, anymore.

Clearly everyone just wants to be miserable, so... Fuck it. I'm worn-out with the ceaseless negativity.
 
I'm saying that everyone's gotten so obsessed with tearing apart the day-to-day just to find the one, little tidbit they can use to make themselves or someone else miserable that everyone's completely lost sight of how well the big picture is going, and I've just hit the point where I can't be bothered to try and explain it to anyone, anymore.

Clearly everyone just wants to be miserable, so... Fuck it. I'm worn-out with the ceaseless negativity.

So trump lied?
 
No one pro trump gives a SHIT about Mexico not footing the bill, so long as the wall is actually built.
 
You realize that's a minor goddamn miracle in and of itself right?
i dont really see it as a miracle at all seeing as the past few presidents began the project and this is just a continuation.

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He couldn't get Mexico to build that wall. He couldn't get them to built it "10 feet higher". He couldn't get them to build a fence. He couldn't do anything original or bold.

And you ordain him a miracle worker?

:lol:
 
Yeah, trump said he'd have mexico pay for it. This is one of many reasons I didn't vote for the man. That's an outrageous thing to say.

Obama said you could keep your doctor. This is one of the many reasons I didn't vote for the man.

Trump, while running for president, acted like a politician. He made conflicting promises that couldn't be kept, and said a lot of things that made no sense.

All that said, people keep saying the wall is never going to happen, he's not going to get any money, but he keeps getting it. Falling back to "But Mexico isn't paying for it!" is fighting a strawman position. I mean, yeah, the 45D meme gets a bit silly...

Walls exist around the world, and seem to work. Of course the US government will pay 500x the correct cost of this wall to get it built, it'll take 5 times longer than it should, and half of it will probably collapse because the contractor used glue instead of screws. You gotta pick your battles...
 
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