Culture Women seeking sperm donor online harassed - Come point and laugh at these idiots.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-45573053

Women using unregulated websites to find a sperm donor have been harassed and sent photos of miscarriages, the BBC has found.

There are strict criteria for NHS artificial insemination and many women say private treatment is too expensive, so they turn to the internet.

One woman told how a potential donor she met turned out to be married and had had a vasectomy.

A fertility expert called for unregulated sites to be shut down.

Online sperm donation is not illegal but it must be provided free, although expenses can be covered.

Some online donors offer artificial insemination (AI) and others natural insemination (NI) - effectively unprotected sex with a stranger.

'A few idiots'
"Sarah", 26, from West Yorkshire, is single and said she wanted a baby without a partner.

She told BBC Inside Out the cost of private treatment was too high and going online meant the treatment was free, although she did experience problems.

She said: "There have been a few idiots that you really wouldn't want to interact with, because they do harass you or start sending you images you really don't need to see."

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Image captionKirsti and Danielle say they have faced pressure
'Messages of miscarriages'
Couple Kirsti and Danielle, also from West Yorkshire, said they had faced pressure from men online to use NI.

Kirsti said: "Some people try to put you off by sending you messages of miscarriages and stuff, like if you do it that way, this will happen.

"So they are trying to change your mind for the method, so then you have sex with them."

Sarah did meet one man online but he was not as he seemed.

"Ultimately it turned out he was married and that he'd actually had a vasectomy, so was in no way viable at all," she said.

"It made me feel like I couldn't trust people on the site.

"I think they do need to be policed by a proper organisation, not just some random person out there because you don't know if they're safe because there's no proof of who you are on there."

'Vulnerable position'
Registered clinics carry out a strict screening process for sexually transmitted infections and infectious diseases and check potential donors' complete medical history.

Alison Lamont, from one of these, Newcastle Fertility Centre, said it was difficult for the clinic to find donors.

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Image captionDr Larisa Corda believes women are making themselves vulnerable
Fertility expert Dr Larisa Corda said the growing trend of online sperm donation was "really alarming".

She said: "I think women are putting themselves in an incredibly vulnerable position medically speaking and secondly the potential for abuse."

She said she believed the cost was a real barrier to a lot of women and it meant they were putting themselves in vulnerable situations, such as using unregulated online donors.

"In the ideal world, I'd love to see them shut down because I think women's safety and welfare has to be paramount here," she said.

Dr Tamara Turner-Moore, senior lecturer in psychology at Leeds Beckett University, is involved in a study about online sperm donation, which she believes will be the first of its kind.

It will look at the number of websites offering sperm, what the sites look like and the profiles of men using them and how they present themselves.

The study will also look at women's experiences including those who have experienced sexual violence by online sperm donors.

It hopes to get an idea of the number of such sites and the problems women face and raise awareness of them.
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Well no shit unregulated sites are going to be full of weirdos!

Adoption is always an option y'know.
 
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Nothing against single parents, but actively seeking to become one is not good for your potential child.
 
This seems like a classic case of getting what you pay for. If you don't want any QC on the paternity of your kid, random Craigslist hookups will do fine. If you do want QC, it's gonna cost you. I'm not actually seeing the problem here, beyond people not having a realistic understanding of what their price range is.
 
Krokodil Overdose dijo:
This seems like a classic case of getting what you pay for. If you don't want any QC on the paternity of your kid, random Craigslist hookups will do fine. If you do want QC, it's gonna cost you. I'm not actually seeing the problem here, beyond people not having a realistic understanding of what their price range is.
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Yes, this.

There is absolutely no point in calling for “regulation” here. It exists. It’s called the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act, and the regulator that it set up, HFEA, is considered to be one of the best, most technically advanced regulators of fertility treatment in the world.

But the people complaining here didn’t want to use the regulated services, because they cost money. So they got exactly what they paid for, which is the sort of guy who hangs around internet forums full of desperate, often queer, women trying to get pregnant by a rando.

HFEA does not allow regulated services to bar women on grounds of sexuality or marital status (although as a reminder, same sex marriage is completely legal here). These women are not in any way legally barred from using the regulated services.

Yes, fertility treatment costs money. There is a reason for this, and it’s patient safety and legal regulation. If you want to go to the wild west of unregulated “fertility” services, expect to deal with cowboys.
 
Fareal dijo:
Yes, this.

There is absolutely no point in calling for “regulation” here. It exists. It’s called the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act, and the regulator that it set up, HFEA, is considered to be one of the best, most technically advanced regulators of fertility treatment in the world.
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My only regret is that I have but one :informative: to give.

Though I would like to add that "regulation" is not only unnecessary, but useless, unless they plan to ban sex out of wedlock. Because the cost floor for paternity is "free."
 
Fareal dijo:
Yes, this.

There is absolutely no point in calling for “regulation” here. It exists. It’s called the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act, and the regulator that it set up, HFEA, is considered to be one of the best, most technically advanced regulators of fertility treatment in the world.

But the people complaining here didn’t want to use the regulated services, because they cost money. So they got exactly what they paid for, which is the sort of guy who hangs around internet forums full of desperate, often queer, women trying to get pregnant by a rando.

HFEA does not allow regulated services to bar women on grounds of sexuality or marital status (although as a reminder, same sex marriage is completely legal here). These women are not in any way legally barred from using the regulated services.

Yes, fertility treatment costs money. There is a reason for this, and it’s patient safety and legal regulation. If you want to go to the wild west of unregulated “fertility” services, expect to deal with cowboys.
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I'd rather spend the money then end up with a sick baby because the donor was not screened. I wouldn't want any weirdos sending me miscarriage pics either. You could meet up with some psychopath if you aren't careful.

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"Ultimately it turned out he was married and that he'd actually had a vasectomy, so was in no way viable at all,"

:story:

What a legend
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Was this guy exceptional? Or was he just doing it to meet chicks?:lol:
 
ZeCommissar dijo:
"Ultimately it turned out he was married and that he'd actually had a vasectomy, so was in no way viable at all,"

:story:

What a legend
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Fuck it must suck to get trolled on some fucking like "Pls knock me up Im baby thirsty" website.

I was wondering why she didnt just use craigslist or tinder like people were saying up the page, but I guess they removed the casuals section earlier this year and the lady's in the UK so I wonder if they even ever had one. No wonder they go to the shit market.
 
Imagine going to your computer and yelling at it to give you a cup of semen. Are these women just socks of OPL?
 
Twenty six years old is too young for someone to willingly become a single parent. If you're in your thirties with an established career and plenty of finances to afford daycare, medical expenses, and to support your child by yourself for the next 18+ years? Go for it. But there's a reason why "Sarah" can't afford to it privately, nor should she.
 
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Twenty six years old is too young for someone to willingly become a single parent. If you're in your thirties with an established career and plenty of finances to afford daycare, medical expenses, and to support your child by yourself for the next 18+ years? Go for it. But there's a reason why "Sarah" can't afford to it privately, nor should she.
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Nah. If you're in your 30s, have been really actively dating around, and can't find someone who wants to have and raise kids with you, you're probably a fucking nightmare and you sure as fuck don't need to be a single mother. Because it's not about the mother, it's about the resulting kid.

And nobody needs to set out to raise a kid on their own. We're not talking about a husband who tragically died and his widow fertilizing her eggs with his frozen sperm, we're talking about single women who just think they can fulfill both parental roles. My god, look what divorce does to kids. What's the kid going to do when he or she gets old enough to wonder where dad is?
 
frozenrunner dijo:
Nah. If you're in your 30s, have been really actively dating around, and can't find someone who wants to have and raise kids with you, you're probably a fucking nightmare and you sure as fuck don't need to be a single mother. Because it's not about the mother, it's about the resulting kid.

And nobody needs to set out to raise a kid on their own. We're not talking about a husband who tragically died and his widow fertilizing her eggs with his frozen sperm, we're talking about single women who just think they can fulfill both parental roles. My god, look what divorce does to kids. What's the kid going to do when he or she gets old enough to wonder where dad is?
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Then there's the entire problem with sperm banks full of anonymous donations in the first place according to the Law of Unintended Consequences:

Half-brothers and half-sisters, having never known each other or that the other existed because neither knows who their biological father is, for whatever reason because sperm donation for ANY reason, have actually wound up together making kids, and most of them never find out, though there have been instances where it was discovered, when it was far too late of course. That's got the potential for more exceptional offspring than Pakistani cousin marriage.

And then there's the exceptional individual doctors running some Artificial Insemination scams where they used their own sperm instead of that of donors, which makes shit EVEN WORSE in that regard.
 
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