Surgery [15 July 18] Phil's Pseudovagina, 7 weeks post-op

[LtCucumber]

Would anyone actually get hard at the sight of “that”? let alone wanna touch it.

My genitalia cringed and retracted into itself after looking at the picture in the spoiler tag.

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

I'm honestly starting to think that Dr Dugi is both a incompetent doctor, as well as a gigantic push over who allows patients like Phil to walk all over him. I think any competent doctor would take one look at Phil, see that he's not trying to pass as a woman, and immeadiatly deny him the surgery, and instead, refer him to a psychologist for a mental evaluation to get the help he needs.

The doctor does "care for non-binary and gender non-conforming people." so he wouldn't exclude Phil (do they even identify as female or ?) The doctor specializes in FTM surgery, meaning making vaginas into penises, so I donno why someone wanting a vagina would go to him.

 

[AllCISPeople]

Ugh, his poor hygiene reallllyyyy isn't helping this at all. Granted that this is really him, which I know is still in question.

It's like Chris almost (minus Chris not having had surgery). You have to take into consideration that this is a man who shits himself, doesn't wash or care for his "downstairs" or his body in general, :horrifying: probably sits and stews in his own shit :horrifying:, and in general hardly baths. Trans-vaginas can get yeast infections, just like regular vaginas can.

As people already said, you also need to dilate on a consistent, rigorous basis. Trans-women need to dilate 2-3 times a day. Does he even have a dilator? Does he even know what a dilator is?

That's that much less time that he's able to spend studying pictures of traffic signs and drawing maps of Australatina. Is he willing to make the sacrifice?

 

[Judge Holden]

Your right in your conclusions that Phil's should not be looking like that so long after the fact, I dated a Transwoman for long time and I saw her during the recovery process and it looked drastically different and trust me something has gone wrong not catastrophically but enough that the healing process has been interrupted. There is also a case to be made of "Quality of materials" If you look at the inside of Phils leg's and groin before and post op his skin and surrounding tissue isn't exactly healthy, and there are other general health issues that should have (but didn't) precluded him from this kind of surgery, so we are seeing the ugly results of a "Meh" job using "SoSo materials" and a bad frame.

Now here is the thing, that's not helping matters Phil's back to "normal" very quickly, back when my Ex had the operation 12 years ago the recovery guides said nothing tight or restrictive around the surgical area for 3 to 6 months, this included cloathing like underwear, now Phil is roughly half way through that and we already have a picture of himself in a Leather Chastity belt, do you think he's not wearing other tight cloathing? now I admit here I could be wrong but I can't see the medical guidance changing that much where it's "Do whatever the fuck you want"

Ontop of that as I said Phil's tissues where not exactly perfectly healthy to begin with, that's going to have a serious impact on post operative care, we all have our own little medical issues that has an effect on this sort of thing but if you look at the skin used alone it's not fresh an supple it's thicker and harder that skin is more likely to heal with ugly tick scars than the latter, and it's also the kind less likely to heel uniformly. I mean look at your hands if you work with them often you can often pick out little scars or dings that are non issues but they are there and then look at another area of your body where you have had a cut those scars take longer to pick out because it's heald better as they tend to be more sheltered from the environment. Phil's own body had worked against him here as he is naturally short an dumpy with a odd gait leading to a lot of abrasion that hasn't been helped by obesity just the act of rubbing the tissue together over time will cause it to harden and thicken, it's not exactly a scar but it's close and has a similar impact on healing and the quality of the tissue to work with.

This is evidenced in your Top Photos and your second set, if you look the top are normal BMI (I'm not a great believer in BMI other than as a general guide) and the others are over the BMI guidelines, or at the very least carry weight in a unfortunate place leading to an impediment in the healing and appearance of the final result. There is a lot to be said for Surgical skill as well, but also the cost associated with it, about 8 years ago in the Lancett there was a study of reconstructive Surgical techniques for scrotal injury and there was a bit about how in natal males the cosmetic process wasn't much use as a starting point for total reconstruction however the starting point to people recovering from a double mastectomy was because they have to generate new tissue quite often or harvest it from other parts of the body, mostly being the back or abdominal area and not the thigh.

Well thats the thing. The human body is designed to heal wounds, even major wounds which is what this would technically qualify as, and the fact the wound is still looking fresh and slimy after nearly 2 months speaks that what you said about him chafing both due to his bulk and due to the dumb fucking fetish cloths he wears is almost certainly true.

This is a rare case of when stripping the edgelord "lol he rubbbs his poo on his unclit" hyperbole and speculations away makes the picture look even bleaker. Just being his normal self is turning his axe wound septic, and if something serious has not already infected him then it probably will sooner or later since that wound is always going to be in close proximity to all kinds of horrible bacteria that will have no barrier preventing them from entering his system

 

[nvrwastetree]

You also need to dilate on a consistent, rigorous basis. If you don't, the opening will close. Trans-women need to dilate 2-3 times a day, in at least 10 minute increments. Does he even have a dilator? Does he even know what a dilator is?

Phil understands the basic concept of it. He has posted pictures of himself in front of a mirror dilating a couple weeks ago. It's been stated by a few people on this forums that once Phil discovers how painful dilating is he will end up quitting because Phil is a gigantic pussy. So I have no doubt that not only does Phil have a infected trench, but now he also has a bacterial infection, as well as his flesh is in the beginning stages of rotting due to his hygeine habits. If only someone here could contact his mother so she could go to Portland to wipe her sons ass and give him a bath...

 

[Ravenor]

And he managed to fake disability by scamming a bunch of doctors so he's actually reasonably adept at getting the government money machine to spit gibs at him.

I oddly have done some digging into this and if Phil where to get a good reassessment today I doubt that he would qualify for SSDI or SSI, His judgement was based on historical documents and a push for diagnosis of that type, Phil is intellectually sub normal but he isn't so hindered by his mental state that he can't carry out a job he would need help and qualify for special treatment but not State Support, hell even here in the UK he'd be pushed for getting support over the long term and that's saying something.

Ugh, his poor hygiene reallllyyyy isn't helping this at all. Granted that this is really him, which I know is still in question.

Look i know it's strange to belive but yes this IS phil, this is his crotch, trust me I have sadly studyied him enough to say this without a shadow of a doubt that this is Spuds.

Well thats the thing. The human body is designed to heal wounds, even major wounds which is what this would technically qualify as, and the fact the wound is still looking fresh and slimy after nearly 2 months speaks that what you said about him chafing both due to his bulk and due to the dumb fucking fetish cloths he wears is almost certainly true.

This is a rare case of when stripping the edgelord "lol he rubbbs his poo on his unclit" hyperbole and speculations away makes the picture look even bleaker. Just being his normal self is turning his axe wound septic, and if something serious has not already infected him then it probably will sooner or later since that wound is always going to be in close proximity to all kinds of horrible bacteria that will have no barrier preventing them from entering his system

I agree the thing is Phil is unclean in a very clear definition of the word when it comes to his person and his environment, but if you strip that away his mental state just doesn't bode well at all. Phil was always the guy who had to be told to shower, he didn't realise that he may smell as he's was to borrow a phrase "Nose Blind" to himself, you can't be that unaware about yourself and be expected to maintain a long standard of long term care without serious issues cropping up, hell just look at it hair is growing into it already and that is something to need to keep away from a open wound no matter how well it's suposed to have healed.

And that's under ideal circumstances, people even far cleaner than phil still make mistakes later on when familiarity has bread laxity and the wounds have become infected turning into serious health issues. Even if he is keeping up now how about in a year? Two, Ten? this is the sort of thing that he's not going to be able to keep up with just by being ignorant of his own body to some extent,

 

[Ginger Piglet]

even here in the UK he'd be pushed for getting support over the long term and that's saying something.

Phil is on paper able bodied and not completely stupid. He would probably get sanctioned repeatedly for wigging out when asked to prove what attempts he'd made that week to get a job. Given the rigorous and regular reassessments one gets while trying to claim any form of disability benefit in Britain, he'd be sunk as soon as a DWP medical assessor who wouldn't be browbeat into submission by screeching about transmisogyny came along.

 

[ZippyZoopa]

Isn't Phil's made out of a piece of his colon? Yeah. Despite how nasty that sounds, it's much less of a horror show than inverting the penis...and the botch-jobs on that are much, much worse.

Are you so desentizied or "tolerant" that you find inverted your penis and mutilating it NOT botching your fucking body?

 

[Ravenor]

Phil is on paper able bodied and not completely stupid. He would probably get sanctioned repeatedly for wigging out when asked to prove what attempts he'd made that week to get a job. Given the rigorous and regular reassessments one gets while trying to claim any form of disability benefit in Britain, he'd be sunk as soon as a DWP medical assessor who wouldn't be browbeat into submission by screeching about transmisogyny came along.

Considering that nonverbal people get told they can work and Call Centers are given as a viable option your correct but, if Like phil your willing to game the system or able to spew out sprog after sprog your still able to ride the Dole like in the old days, the systems fucked and UC has more holes in the system than a fucking sive as it relies on you being honest, and to a large extent of people working for minimum wage making decisions they are untrained and unable to make.

 

[ZippyZoopa]

unpopular opinion (I guess) but its an okay vagina for a fake one. At first glance it doesn't appear abnormal. upon further inspection, sure, but once anyone gets to 4th base if thats not what they're expecting then they're deluded.

it does look smelly though. douche daily is my advice.

How about not mutilating your genitals because of a mental illness? How about that?

 

[AllCISPeople]

How about not mutilating your genitals because of a mental illness? How about that?

Can we like, not derail the thread and get back to ADF?

 

[Ginger Piglet]

How about not mutilating your genitals because of a mental illness? How about that?

For people who are TRUE AND HONEST trans, i.e. not Phil, and suffer from actual gender dysphoria, this is the treatment for that illness. However because of its very nature (viz. this thread), that's why they have piles of "gatekeeping" in front of it.

 

[ZippyZoopa]

For people who are TRUE AND HONEST trans, i.e. not Phil, and suffer from actual gender dysphoria, this is the treatment for that illness. However because of its very nature (viz. this thread), that's why they have piles of "gatekeeping" in front of it.

The treatment is to lead to life that most likely will make your mental state worse than before, look I was liberal and "free-thinking" like you once, but it's common sense that this is in their head. They are the sex they are born with and that will never change.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

The treatment is to lead to life that most likely will make your mental state worse than before, look I was liberal and "free-thinking" like you once, but it's common sense that this is in their head. They are the sex they are born with and that will never change.

If you are Phil, or one of the many other transtrenders we cover, yes. However. The trans people that actually put the effort in to pass and go through all the steps and so forth are generally fairly well adjusted.

Basically, if you want to gauge how truly and honestly trans someone is, think about this - how quickly can I clock them? The shorter a time it takes, the more likely they are to screech at some quack until he wolverine-claws a segment out their groin.

 

[AnotherForumUser]

Where did he manage to get the money for this horrendous operation? Is this kind of awful thing covered by social welfare services?

 

[Dog Prom 3D]

Wait, he had the colon graft technique? I thought he was too fat for that.

It would seem that he didn't do the colon approach - see below.

Why do people think he got the colon thing? He said he was just getting a one or two inch deep purely superficial fake pussy.

Part of it may be because I assumed (hahaha, fuck me right) that his surgeon would have gone with the best approach but that Phil was authorized for the surgery in the first place should tell me he's not dealing with a top of the list surgeon here. I mean, if he was too fat too get the colon graft, maybe he was too physically unfit to get the surgery at all. And maybe you shouldn't cut off a functioning penis to replace it with a barely useful dent.

All that physical pain for a useless replacement... If it's only a superficial opening, does he really need to be dilating? What is the point of keeping open a wound that will never be used as a sexual organ?

 

[Ti-99/4A]

Where did he manage to get the money for this horrendous operation? Is this kind of awful thing covered by social welfare services?

The People's Republic of Oregon paid for it.

 

[ZippyZoopa]

If you are Phil, or one of the many other transtrenders we cover, yes. However. The trans people that actually put the effort in to pass and go through all the steps and so forth are generally fairly well adjusted.

Basically, if you want to gauge how truly and honestly trans someone is, think about this - how quickly can I clock them? The shorter a time it takes, the more likely they are to screech at some quack until he wolverine-claws a segment out their groin.

You people are insane, you have given these mentally ill people the go through to fuck up their lives forever because you think sex is a social construct. Will someone just nuke the Western world already?

 

[Bassomatic]

Remember that kid who blew his head off with a 12 gauge on live stream?

That looked more like a vag and wasn't as funny. Good work Phil. both a 12g slug to the brain stem and a mentally retarded man cutting his dick off are gonna end in the same thing, a really funny messy death that made the internet laugh a lot.

 

[Ravenor]

If you are Phil, or one of the many other transtrenders we cover, yes. However. The trans people that actually put the effort in to pass and go through all the steps and so forth are generally fairly well adjusted.

Basically, if you want to gauge how truly and honestly trans someone is, think about this - how quickly can I clock them? The shorter a time it takes, the more likely they are to screech at some quack until he wolverine-claws a segment out their groin.

There is also the Kiwi Statistic, we have a disproportionate number of Transpeople involved in the forums who are active and respected members of the community we don't hate transpeople far from it, we just have a distate for people using being Trans as an excuse for doing a runner from responsibility or accountability.