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https://gizmodo.com/florida-man-jailed-for-failing-to-unlock-his-phone-1827600878/amp

What started as a routine traffic stop has quickly escalated into a civil rights case in a Florida courtroom after a man was put behind bars this week for failing to unlock his phone.

William Montanez was given 180 days in jail by a judge after he was asked to unlock two separate phones seized from him by police. Montanez told the court that he couldn’t remember the passwords, so the judge found him in civil contempt and threw him in jail, according to Fox 13 Newsin Tampa Bay, Florida.

The strangest part about Montanez’s predicament is that it started with a traffic stop. According to an emergency writ filed by Montanez’s lawyer, he was pulled over by police on June 21 for not properly yielding while pulling out of a driveway. The officers making the stop asked to search his car, which he refused, so the police brought in a drug-sniffing dog.

It’s worth noting that the emergency writsays the canine unit was contacted before police spoke to Montanez during the stop, which seems a bit suspicious. In 2015, the US Supreme Court’s ruling in Rodriguez v. United States made clear that police are not to turn traffic stops into investigations of other possible infractions. Police have to have reason to believe another crime has been committed in order to investigate further, and refusing to allow law enforcement to search your car is not a valid reason for suspicion.

The dog discovered small amounts of weed (about 4.5 grams) and THC oil, which Montanez admitted belonged to him. The police also found a concealed handgun, which supposedly belonged to his mom, and two cellphones. When law enforcement asked Montanez to unlock the phones—apparently after seeing a text message that read “OMG did they find it” on the screen—he denied the request.

The police got a search warrant for the devices, claiming that they contain evidence of “Possession of Cannabis Less Than 20 grams” and “Possession of Drug Paraphernalia”—both of which Montanez already admitted to, which makes it unclear why the cops still want to search the phone to prove the charges.

It was that warrant that brought Montanez to court, where the judge asked him to unlock the phones, which he again refused—or simply couldn’t do because he didn’t remember the passcodes for the devices. Now he’ll spend nearly the next six months in jail for not allowing police to dig through his phones for evidence they don’t seem to need.

Montanez’s lawyer, Patrick Leduc, filed an emergency petition to challenge the judge’s contempt ruling and raise issues with the warrant, but the situation is pretty damn sticky. The police did go through the process of getting a warrant to search the phone as they are supposed to do, but it seems the circumstances that led up to that point were questionable at best.

Leduc also said his client’s case should serve as a warning to everyone, per Fox 13 News:

“If they arrest you for anything — whether it’s drugs, guns, you name it — and an electronic device is nearby, they can get a search warrant and search it. And if you don’t provide that information to search it, to unlock, because you want to keep the information private, we’ll put you in jail,” said Leduc.
2nd sauce
https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/12/a-florida-man-arrested-for-pot-is-in-jai
 
:story: yeah, I think they have the grounds to be suspicious
I want to 4th Amendment sperg but this is a weird fucking case. The Police got a warrant to search the phones, but he already admitted to what the warrant was for, but it's still valid?

There's a very good write up of it all here:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-phones-to-get-evidence-drug-possession.shtml
"In any event, there's zero chance Montanez's phones will carry additional evidence of the chargedcriminal acts, which are all predicated on evidence the police have already obtained. The warrant appears to be a fishing expedition to try to prove Montanez is actually a drug dealer so the felony charge sticks. The two misdemeanor charges already have all the evidence prosecutors need, so police are pressing forward with zero probable cause to nail Montanez with a felony. The problem is, the probable cause has to come before the search, not after it, and that's why his lawyer is challenging the warrant."
I think the most problematic aspect of the case was that he refused a search of his car and they brought sniffer dogs which turned his traffic stop into a fishing expedition.

"Montanez was pulled over for failure to yield. During this stop, a K-9 unit was brought to the scene to sniff Montanez's car after he refused to consent to a search. This is already questionable. The Supreme Court's ruling in Rodriguez makes it clear regular traffic stops aren't supposed to be fishing expeditions. If no reasonable suspicion presents itself (and refusing consent isn't suspicious activity), officers aren't allowed to extend stops to further badger drivers into relinquishing consent or bring a dog to scene to ask its permission for a search."
 
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There's a very good write up of it all here:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-phones-to-get-evidence-drug-possession.shtml
"In any event, there's zero chance Montanez's phones will carry additional evidence of the chargedcriminal acts, which are all predicated on evidence the police have already obtained. The warrant appears to be a fishing expedition to try to prove Montanez is actually a drug dealer so the felony charge sticks. The two misdemeanor charges already have all the evidence prosecutors need, so police are pressing forward with zero probable cause to nail Montanez with a felony. The problem is, the probable cause has to come before the search, not after it, and that's why his lawyer is challenging the warrant."
I think the most problematic aspect of the case was that he refused a search of his car and they brought sniffer dogs which turned his traffic stop into a fishing expedition.

Especially since they allegedly brought the sniffer dogs before speaking to him; ergo before he could refuse/consent to a search. ACLU will have a field day.
 
There's a very good write up of it all here:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-phones-to-get-evidence-drug-possession.shtml
"In any event, there's zero chance Montanez's phones will carry additional evidence of the chargedcriminal acts, which are all predicated on evidence the police have already obtained. The warrant appears to be a fishing expedition to try to prove Montanez is actually a drug dealer so the felony charge sticks. The two misdemeanor charges already have all the evidence prosecutors need, so police are pressing forward with zero probable cause to nail Montanez with a felony. The problem is, the probable cause has to come before the search, not after it, and that's why his lawyer is challenging the warrant."
I think the most problematic aspect of the case was that he refused a search of his car and they brought sniffer dogs which turned his traffic stop into a fishing expedition.

"Montanez was pulled over for failure to yield. During this stop, a K-9 unit was brought to the scene to sniff Montanez's car after he refused to consent to a search. This is already questionable. The Supreme Court's ruling in Rodriguez makes it clear regular traffic stops aren't supposed to be fishing expeditions. If no reasonable suspicion presents itself (and refusing consent isn't suspicious activity), officers aren't allowed to extend stops to further badger drivers into relinquishing consent or bring a dog to scene to ask its permission for a search."
It definitely sounds like the police pulled him over with the intent of searching him. Hopefully he's got a good lawyer.
 
He had 4.5 grams on him. Now I’m a complete marajuana neophyte, but that seems like enough for a few joints, not a marketing opportunity. I’d say the cops are fishing so they can look tough by jailing a “dealer” vs. busting a druggie.
 
A bit OT but why do stoners always insist on driving around with weed in their car? It's the dumbest shit ever.

I don't drive around with alcohol hidden in the glovebox, console, and trunk. It serves no purpose and will only get me in trouble. I leave that shit at home. Why don't they?
 
A bit OT but why do stoners always insist on driving around with weed in their car? It's the dumbest shit ever.

I don't drive around with alcohol hidden in the glovebox, console, and trunk. It serves no purpose and will only get me in trouble. I leave that shit at home. Why don't they?

Short Answer (25 points):
If your weed man doesn't deliver how do you get your bud home?
 
A bit OT but why do stoners always insist on driving around with weed in their car? It's the dumbest shit ever.

I don't drive around with alcohol hidden in the glovebox, console, and trunk. It serves no purpose and will only get me in trouble. I leave that shit at home. Why don't they?
People who casually use substances like that like to have it with them -- alcohol is pretty readily available anywhere so people dont think about it. You dont need to hide your booze, so you dont notice how prevalent it is and how often people casually grab some beers or a bottle of wine, or even liquor, and openly use it. As long as it's closed, you arent getting in trouble if youre pulled over and have a few bottles of wine in the trunk unless you're obviously impaired. My major point is that youre comparing an illegal substance to a legal one.

That said you arent entirely wrong--casual users probably arent going to need to carry a lot with them. This guy had more than an eighth so I think that makes the charges more considerable.
 
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Oh man this is shady as hell. And I really hope the entire thing is thrown out, the cops clearly turned it into a hunt by bringing a k-9 and phone searching.

There's no reason to link "did they find it" to them, that post word for word if they saw it could be related to work, hiding your kids b-day gifts anything. Sure we all can guess what or why (also you are a retard if texting during a traffic stop) but with just that the police have no context, and no grounds for suspicion.

Florida never lets us down with absurdity.
 
Anyone else notice that mother of the year left her concealed carry piece in the Volvo and the cops found that too?
Oh that’s a major no no. That shit stays on you or in a place like a safe, in your house or in your car when you go into a federal building. Not in someone else’s car or let someone barrow your car with your gun still in the car.
 
Oh that’s a major no no. That shit stays on you or in a place like a safe, in your house or in your car when you go into a federal building. Not in someone else’s car or let someone barrow your car with your gun still in the car.
Yep. I'm guessing this was the "it" referenced in the text message that the cops saw on the locked phone. He doesn't want to give the passwords because mommy (or whoever's gun that is) will get in trouble. It's not at all about the stupid weed that the cops already found that he copped to.

Good work by the weasel lawyer for spinning it that way to idiot journos and getting everyone worked up about it though. A true shyster. Mom would be proud.
 
Meanwhile I can walk literally down the street in almost any direction and buy this much from a store, and walk or drive home with 0 negative consequences. But law enforcement in other states still think this is a serious issue worth their time.
 
The police got a search warrant for the devices, claiming that they contain evidence of “Possession of Cannabis Less Than 20 grams” and “Possession of Drug Paraphernalia”—both of which Montanez already admitted to, which makes it unclear why the cops still want to search the phone to prove the charges.

Because if the original evidence was obtained illegally, and the confession stemmed from that, it would be inadmissible as fruit of the poisonous tree.

Come to think of it, the phone evidence probably would be, too.

There's no reason to link "did they find it" to them, that post word for word if they saw it could be related to work, hiding your kids b-day gifts anything.

If they legally obtained the phones and the drugs in the first place, then that in combination with the message would seem to add up to probable cause. Without either, there is no reason to think "it" would refer specifically to something illegal.

If they called in the K-9 unit before even talking to him, that's extremely suspicious and really calls the whole thing into question.
 
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