Money Update 9/23/2014 - Chris Makes a Kickstarter

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...now I feel really stupid.

Anybody remember me going on and going "oh, geez, Project CWCstarter, yeah right, what's he gonna do" and now, just a little while down the pipe, this happens. and not only is it asking for way more than I thought, it's asking for completely different things than I theorized it would, and they're even more ridiculous (and desperate) than I could have possibly imagined.

I should learn to stop trying to predict a lolcow's movements, but then again, learning was never my strongest suit.
 
Moon Moon dijo:
So theoretically speaking, the weens chipped in little money so they can sue Chris to get his money if he doesn't reach his goal by his due date?
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Do you mean that if the donate a little, and he doesn't reach his goal?

In that case the answer is no, the money would be returned to them automatically, Chris would never see any of it.

Or do you mean if Chris raises $5000 but doesn't build lego?

In that case, techinically yes, although Kickstarter won't be involved. But it is hard to imagine a scenario where Chris will fail to satisfy a legal requirement by not playing with lego enough.

Marvin dijo:
I don't think there are enough weens around to risk it.

But if there were, it'd kind of amount to ween chicken in the end. Every ween wants to push the dollar amount as close as they can to $5k, but they don't want it to go over, lest they actually get on the hook for however much they pledged.
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One thing to keep in mind is that as much as weens might find it hilarious if Chris got $4000 plus and failed, that is fairly unrealistic. At that point he just needs to put in a little of his own money/borrowed money to unlock the $4000. Would you really want to risk that he wouldn't figure that out, and that someone wouldn't go to him and offer a short term, high interest loan that benfitted both sides immensely?

So I don't think that the conditions are right for a game of chicken. I would start worrying about losing my money as soon as it went above $2000 or so.

Although the cruel part of me would be amused if the weens were dumb enough to put in $4000. Either Chris would figure out how to game the system and the weens would get screwed. Or he wouldn't figure it out/couldn't put together enough funds to unlock the money, and hilarity would ensue.

I am not sure what the motivations are of the people who put money in. There is one two-hundred dollar backer and 20 people who donated a dollar or two. My suspicion is the $200 is him getting the ball rolling, or maybe is sweetheart/some friend showing support, but I have no evidence of that. The other people donated at or just above the minimum amount. That allows them to post comments which a few of them did. Maybe some of a plan to use it to try to get into CWC's good graces. A few others seem to have backed other projects. Maybe they get their kicks by going around and throwing a buck or two at projects that amuse them to get on the mailing list or whatever. But I assume most of them are saying "worst case scenario, it is a couple bucks".
 
timtommy dijo:
In that case, techinically yes, although Kickstarter won't be involved. But it is hard to imagine a scenario where Chris will fail to satisfy a legal requirement by not playing with lego enough.
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You'd be surprised. He recycled his valentine's day "gift" to Kacey originally for Julie, he was too lazy to even invest time in a game he was playing obsessively at the time. It's like the more you want him to do something, the less inclined he is to do it even if it's something he enjoys.

That said I'm a little surprised that he actually needed more lego for this. He kinda has a shit-ton of lego.
 
Marvin dijo:
I don't think there are enough weens around to risk it.

But if there were, it'd kind of amount to ween chicken in the end. Every ween wants to push the dollar amount as close as they can to $5k, but they don't want it to go over, lest they actually get on the hook for however much they pledged.
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Actually you only get charged when the project ends and you can change or withdraw your funding at any time before then. (It's all in the sites FAQ - https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backer+questions )
 
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timtommy dijo:
One thing to keep in mind is that as much as weens might find it hilarious if Chris got $4000 plus and failed, that is fairly unrealistic. At that point he just needs to put in a little of his own money/borrowed money to unlock the $4000. Would you really want to risk that he wouldn't figure that out, and that someone wouldn't go to him and offer a short term, high interest loan that benfitted both sides immensely?
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Oh, I would never, ever think Chris would come up with that idea on his own. Even if a bunch of weens trying to get that idea to him, he probably couldn't scrape together the money and wouldn't ever think about how he could get an actual, legitimate loan on that. He'd probably complain for a week on facebook for people to contribute, because it's so close. Maybe he'd try to bum some money off of friends.
timtommy dijo:
So I don't think that the conditions are right for a game of chicken. I would start worrying about losing my money as soon as it went above $2000 or so.
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Oh yeah, nah, but we aren't weens. It's not that there aren't stupid enough participants for this game of chicken, it's that there aren't enough of them.
timtommy dijo:
Although the cruel part of me would be amused if the weens were dumb enough to put in $4000. Either Chris would figure out how to game the system and the weens would get screwed.
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Oh no, that'd be hilarious.
timtommy dijo:
I am not sure what the motivations are of the people who put money in. There is one two-hundred dollar backer and 20 people who donated a dollar or two.
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Eh, it's simple, no one expects to have to pay.
Pickle Inspector dijo:
Actually you only get charged when the project ends and you can change or withdraw your funding at any time before then. (It's all in the sites FAQ - https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backer questions )
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No, I know that. The weens would want to keep their money in as long as possible, to make the loss more dramatic for Chris. But some of them would get scared and pull their money out or not put in money. Hence a game of chicken.
 
Marvin dijo:
No, I know that. The weens would want to keep their money in as long as possible, to make the loss more dramatic for Chris. But some of them would get scared and pull their money out or not put in money. Hence a game of chicken.
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I get what you mean now, realistically though if the funding suddenly shoots up it'll likely be shut down since it's already a suspicious project .
 
Crazy 108 dijo:
Nobody can be this asinine without deep psychological issues.
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We're talking about the guy who pierced his taint to scissor with lesbians, attempted to shoot a Kamehameha wave of bad luck at the dean of his college, and claims that a comic book store owner, his spergy female friend, the school board from his hometown and thousands of internet trolls world wide crafted an elaborate plot to keep him single for life, right?


You think hes got psychological issues? I think you're reaching.
 
Christian really has no idea what the word "risk" means does he? ...it explains quite a bit.

In his head, a risk means putting Legos together to try and match his little blueprint, risk means he's concerned as to how to buy the Legos needed.

In actuality, a risk is taking a chance on something knowing that the end result may lead to consequences that aren't in your favor - say oh, getting a piercing in an area that's hard to clean without properly knowing how to keep it from infection and a poor track record of personal hygiene.
 
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If it gets pulled and he tard rages on Facebook it'll be funny. If the weens succeed and screw Chris it'll be chuckle-worthy at the very least. If he actually gets their money and screws them it'll be hilarious. Whoever loses, we win.
 
mapdark dijo:
You gotta love how his mall design has this horribly huge courtyard that is bigger than a JCPenney's XD

And how some stores have retail space that is smaller than the toilets.
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I can't tell if it has 3 anchors or not, but that's certainly an odd floor plan if any. With all the malls I've been to in my lifetime, the food court was often small or non-existent (a defunct mall near me pretty much had restaurants that had their own sit-down space scattered throughout the place).
 
"Pledging to your own project is not allowed by either Kickstarter or our payments partners."

So... it's not like anyone can just slip a few bucks into their own project without creating a completely separate identity for themselves through Amazon's payment system. Cancelling or retracting pledges, however, it absolutely allowed, though I'm not sure how it would play AFTER the project reaches its goal.

Dammit, weens.
 
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