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Dear God! Why? Just why?
Money Update 9/23/2014 - Chris Makes a Kickstarter
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If only Chris realised the potential of his notoriety, he might actually get it backed if he said he'd give regular video updates of his progress and added his eBay items as reward levels.
He could troll his fans/trolls and promise new Sonichu issues as stretch goals.
He could troll his fans/trolls and promise new Sonichu issues as stretch goals.
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Y'know, see, I'm completely down with this sort of thing. Kickstarter funds projects. It's a website, it's not like they have someone vetting projects to filter out "stupid" projects. This potato salad project is a perfect kickstarter project. It has good rewards, the guy seems to have kept up on the rising funds and kept all his promises.
As long as he's done those things, I don't give a fuck. Good for him.
Now Chris, on the other hand, totally fucked up his kickstarter...
DrChristianTroy
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
The guy wanted to make some quality potato salad. Anyway at least potato salad provides sustenance. The lego mall helps nobody.
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- 10 de Mar, 2013
You're right, it's not a good sign if the project owner can't even be bothered to make a video explaining their Kickstarter.
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- 22 de Jul, 2014
Any rewards that people could possibly want from a kickstarter, original art, medallions, etc, they're on ebay. His rewards are also things people can get this very moment, for less money than he is charging. There is no incentive to support his Kickstarter, and it is quite amazing how he set it up that way.
People will pledge money, it will get funded, then those people will drop out, and Chris will probably lose money when he factors in shipping to the few people who stay in and fund it.
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I decided to back for a dollar in case he did any backer only updates and an interesting thing is Chris has named his Kickstarter Amazon payment account "CWC Comics".
(At least that's what I think it is, maybe it's his PayPal account name? This is the email I received:
Authorization summary:
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Recipient: CWC Comics, Kickstarter, Inc.)
(At least that's what I think it is, maybe it's his PayPal account name? This is the email I received:
Authorization summary:
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Recipient: CWC Comics, Kickstarter, Inc.)
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- 25 de Feb, 2013
That's probably just his stupid business name that he has on his cards.
I'd have gone for 'CWCstarter' myself.
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- 30 de Jul, 2013
On the other hand, Chris has both of his testicles. Let's call it a draw.
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- 14 de Jun, 2014
For now MrTroll. For now. Who knows how far his lesbian soul will penetrate his autistic brain.
Also, this Kickstarter is stupid.
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- 30 de Jul, 2013
Not far enough to do anything drastic like having actual sex change surgery. Chris is a firm believer in half-measures. He'll take some estrogen pills and wear a dress and call it a day.
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- 24 de Jun, 2014
Yeah, but infected taint piercing might level the playing field.
I'd hate to see Chris after estrogen without a super-reinforced meemaw bra.
Anustart
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He should have used GoFundMe. They just let you run off with whatever you ended up getting and you don't even have to have rewards for donators.
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- 22 de Jul, 2014
That would require some effort in researching ways to fund something. Effort from a guy who needs to be in the right mood and motivated to create crayola model magic medallions for people who have paid for them.
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- 16 de Sep, 2013
Just to recap the details:
Although he has $230 in donations, he has one donation of at least $200. He has $15 other backers pledging an average of $2. For all we know the $200 was him trying to get the ball rolling (there are only 10 backers listed in the backers section, I suppose you can do it anonymously.
He doesn't get any money unless he gets $5000. He could of course put the remaining gap in himself to unlock the donations. If he does that, he loses 5% of what ever money to kickstarter and 2.9% of what is left to Amazon. If he were to raise exactly $5000, this would be almost $400. Therefore (assuming the $200 was not him) he has to about double his current pledges to be able to make money by putting the rest in himself. And then of course he would be making a relatively trivial amount.
Kickstarter does not guarantee that the project will take place. He can't really be held responsible if he doesn't deliver. Further to this point, all he said he would do is make something out of lego. So of course he will "deliver" on that. He delivers on it every day.
Is he in violation of Kickstarter's rules? Well, his rewards definately are. Kickstarter has on it's list of "prohibitions".
"All rewards must have been produced or designed by the project or one of its creators — no reselling things from elsewhere."
No question he violates that one. I am inclined to say his project is ok.
Kickstarter has 3 "rules".
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"Projects must create something to share with others.
Kickstarter can be used to create all sorts of things: art and gadgets, events and spaces, ideas and experiences. But every project needs a plan for creating something and sharing it with the world. At some point, the creator should be able to say: “It’s finished. Here’s what we created. Enjoy!" "
I suppose he is a little iffy on this, since he hasn't specified how he will "share" it. But one assumes he will create a video like the high school one, which would meet the standard, I would think.
2.
"Projects must be honest and clearly presented.
Our community is built on trust and communication. Projects can’t mislead people or misrepresent facts, and creators should be candid about what they plan to accomplish. When a project involves manufacturing and distributing something complex, like a gadget, we require projects to show a prototype of what they’re making, and we prohibit photorealistic renderings."
He isn't exactly clear, but he isn't misrepresented anything. I read through Kickstarter's literature, and my guess is their reaction would be "He should be more specific in order to impress potential donors, but he that is between him and them".
"Projects can’t fundraise for charity, offer financial incentives, or involve prohibited items.
We’re all in favor of charity and investment, but they’re not permitted on Kickstarter. Projects can’t promise to donate funds raised to a charity or cause, and they can’t offer financial incentives like equity or repayment. We also can’t allow any of these prohibited things."
He does like to think of himself and his online money ventures as a charity, but his wrongness about that probably works in his favour. Nothing on the list of prohibited items mentioned applies, except for the reward problem I mentioned above.
Hope this helps everyone understand what is going on!
Although he has $230 in donations, he has one donation of at least $200. He has $15 other backers pledging an average of $2. For all we know the $200 was him trying to get the ball rolling (there are only 10 backers listed in the backers section, I suppose you can do it anonymously.
He doesn't get any money unless he gets $5000. He could of course put the remaining gap in himself to unlock the donations. If he does that, he loses 5% of what ever money to kickstarter and 2.9% of what is left to Amazon. If he were to raise exactly $5000, this would be almost $400. Therefore (assuming the $200 was not him) he has to about double his current pledges to be able to make money by putting the rest in himself. And then of course he would be making a relatively trivial amount.
Kickstarter does not guarantee that the project will take place. He can't really be held responsible if he doesn't deliver. Further to this point, all he said he would do is make something out of lego. So of course he will "deliver" on that. He delivers on it every day.
Is he in violation of Kickstarter's rules? Well, his rewards definately are. Kickstarter has on it's list of "prohibitions".
"All rewards must have been produced or designed by the project or one of its creators — no reselling things from elsewhere."
No question he violates that one. I am inclined to say his project is ok.
Kickstarter has 3 "rules".
1.
"Projects must create something to share with others.
Kickstarter can be used to create all sorts of things: art and gadgets, events and spaces, ideas and experiences. But every project needs a plan for creating something and sharing it with the world. At some point, the creator should be able to say: “It’s finished. Here’s what we created. Enjoy!" "
I suppose he is a little iffy on this, since he hasn't specified how he will "share" it. But one assumes he will create a video like the high school one, which would meet the standard, I would think.
2.
"Projects must be honest and clearly presented.
Our community is built on trust and communication. Projects can’t mislead people or misrepresent facts, and creators should be candid about what they plan to accomplish. When a project involves manufacturing and distributing something complex, like a gadget, we require projects to show a prototype of what they’re making, and we prohibit photorealistic renderings."
He isn't exactly clear, but he isn't misrepresented anything. I read through Kickstarter's literature, and my guess is their reaction would be "He should be more specific in order to impress potential donors, but he that is between him and them".
"Projects can’t fundraise for charity, offer financial incentives, or involve prohibited items.
We’re all in favor of charity and investment, but they’re not permitted on Kickstarter. Projects can’t promise to donate funds raised to a charity or cause, and they can’t offer financial incentives like equity or repayment. We also can’t allow any of these prohibited things."
He does like to think of himself and his online money ventures as a charity, but his wrongness about that probably works in his favour. Nothing on the list of prohibited items mentioned applies, except for the reward problem I mentioned above.
Hope this helps everyone understand what is going on!
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It will be funny when he gets this yanked, because being Chris, he'll have seen that he already has several hundred dollars towards the kickstarter, and will have already spent that in advance. If this went far enough, he could be out over $4000, if he had that kind of credit (which I seriously doubt).
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- 14 de Abr, 2014
For a long time now I'd been saying that Chris should be doing a Kickstarter. Of course, when I said that I thought he'd do it for more Sonichu material or... well almost anything other than buying more fucking Legos!!! As others have said, he might actually make more money if he was smart about it and actually made appropriate, hand-made rewards. Sadly, this is Chris. He really does think of Legos as being interchangeable with money, not that anyone would want boxes that have been sprinkled with rodent feces.
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i'm surprised you're surprised...sonichu and the lego thing were never more than explorations of the fantasy world in his brain, he'll never do sonichu again because lego cwcville is private, performs the same functions as sonichu, and can't be desecrated by pranksters
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And is easier
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