🐱 Mumsnet intern leaks data. Sparks troon brigade against innocent mothers

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...gender-rights-row-ip-addresses-posted-twitter

Mumsnet has reported itself to the UK data regulator after a former employee published the IP addresses of forum users in a dispute over transgender rights.

The parenting site confirmed it had contacted the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) and informed the police after the recently departed intern had made a series of posts on Twitter criticising Mumsnet’s stance on trans rights, accompanied by screengrabs apparently taken while she worked at the company that included private information only visible to staff.

In a series of now-deleted posts on Twitter, Emma Healey, who was a paid intern in the site’s press office for six months, claimed that the “vast majority” of discussion of trans issues on Mumsnet “descends into scaremongering and hate speech”.

“Whilst I was at MN [Mumsnet] (Sept 17-Mar 18), there was really no attempt to keep this discussion civil or polite,” she wrote. “Misgendering and deadnaming were completely tolerated, and the internal moderation policy would change pretty much every day.

“There were many staff members, me included, who raised concerns about what was being said on site – but it was never taken on board. Any criticism has been dismissed as a smear attempt by ‘trans activists’ rather than actually thinking about what was being said.”

Healey had had limited access to the personal information of registered users that was not visible to the general public.

IP addresses are assigned to users by internet service providers and can used to ascertain the approximate location of an internet user. Although it is difficult to precisely identify an individual from their IP address without the cooperation of an internet provider, the information can be used to monitor other online activity and to corroborate other identifying information.

Mumsnet has recently been under pressure from trans rights activists over the content on its forums, with some campaigners contacting the site’s advertisers to complain about the tone of discussions on the issue. Justine Roberts, Mumsnet’s founder and chief executive, has publicly criticised the “thought police” attitude to trans rights in the UK and said she believed it was the “right thing to do to allow this discussion to take place” on her site.

A spokesperson for Mumsnet said Healey had now promised to delete all other Mumsnet-related material. The spokesperson said the company believed the former intern had not intended to publish the three IP addresses of forum users and had done so accidentally.

Justine Roberts, Mumsnet’s chief executive, said: “For us this is about civilised debate and free speech. As an organisation we absolutely believe in the rights of transgender people to be safe, happy and supported. However there are parents (including some trans parents) on Mumsnet who also believe that there are some issues - such as the prescription of hormone-altering medication to young children, and the impact of gender self-identification on women-only refuges and other ‘safe’ spaces - that merit discussion.

“We at Mumsnet have always strongly believe that robust, civilised debate is the best way to reach resolution on difficult issues. Some activists disagree with us on the merits of even having of debate and view it as transphobic in its own right.

“Transphobia is against our guidelines and we delete and ban users who are repeat offenders; we’ve also proactively reminded our users of the importance of abiding by our rules, and will continue to do so.”

Healey later issued a statement via Mumsnet apologising for her decision: “I was just mistakenly trying to do what I thought was the right thing as someone with very strong feelings on LGBTQ+ rights – and in doing so, I did something very misguided and frankly awful.

“I have definitely learnt my lesson: not only about not tweeting in anger but about the language I use, being careful what I say, the power of social media and thinking about all the potential outcomes of my actions (not just the outcomes I intend). As such, I am taking some time away from social media and will return with a hopefully more mature attitude.

“I’d like to also apologise to any users who have felt hurt, attacked or vulnerable due to my actions. I recognise that we do not agree on this issue, but I know the impact that my actions may have had on them and their mental health.”

An ICO spokesperson said: “We are aware of a possible incident involving Mumsnet and will be looking into the details.”


long and short of it, troons are attacking a mothering website because you know, mothers care about the welfare of their children. there's a big twitter shitstorm as well. including a harassment twitter targeting users of the site https://twitter.com/MumsnetT
 
Oh no! Trans feelings are being hurt by mothers with legit concerns for their children's welfare! Time to call the internet police!

Is this all ever going to come to a logical head? Like hordes of people speaking up and saying that bending over backwards for trannies at the cost of other people's safety and well being is unfair? I know I'm being :optimistic:, but I wish that medical professionals in particular would sound an alarm already and just profess what they already know. That no amount of hormones or surgery can change your birth sex and that there are fundamental and unchangeable differences between men and women on a physical level that need to be recognised and respected.
 
Mumsnet is a savage hugbox for drunk Mams who either can't cope with their sprogs or can't shut up about how perfect they are. Used to occasionally trawl their forums for a laugh.

I bet there are a few extra valiums being popped today.
 
RIP Mumsnet. They'll cave soon enough. Everything does when the baying troon mob and their supporters start shitting on them. The harassment won't end until Mumsnet has sacked it's head staff, banned every poster who dares even hint that trans people aren't perfect, pretty princesses, and filled its boards with LGBTQWTFASSHOLE and 'sex positive' rubbish.

How dare mothers put their kids' welfare ahead of kissing troon ass.
 
Mumsnet is a savage hugbox for drunk Mams who either can't cope with their sprogs or can't shut up about how perfect they are. Used to occasionally trawl their forums for a laugh.

I bet there are a few extra valiums being popped today.
This sounds like a britbonger thing, but was there anything worth sharing? If it's community watch worthy I'd like to see .
 
It's years since I really had an extended browse but there were always spats between users and mods. No clue what it's like these days, was rich with salty arguments and slapfights on how to raise your kids. Will have to have a quick look. It was the epitome of drunk mother fights while I was lurking. Just an online representation of the Moms gossiping at the school gates. Quick to fight, quick to turn on each other and as with the IRL school pick-up, incredibly entertaining when things kick off.
 
I’m becoming legitimately annoyed at these transgender people, with no kids of their own mind you (and thank god for that) telling people how to raise theirs. I’m sure the ladies at Mumsnet can do it better than them even when they’re coming down off the valium.
 
I’m becoming legitimately annoyed at these transgender people, with no kids of their own mind you (and thank god for that) telling people how to raise theirs. I’m sure the ladies at Mumsnet can do it better than them even when they’re coming down off the valium.

have you ever seen them swarm public facebook pregnancy declarations? thats straight up infuriating
 
have you ever seen them swarm public facebook pregnancy declarations? thats straight up infuriating
Oh I’ve seen the tard rage at gender reveal parties. You can’t even give birth before you’re accused of being an oppressive shitlord towards your own child. These people and kids just do not mix.
 
Oh no! Trans feelings are being hurt by mothers with legit concerns for their children's welfare! Time to call the internet police!

Is this all ever going to come to a logical head? Like hordes of people speaking up and saying that bending over backwards for trannies at the cost of other people's safety and well being is unfair? I know I'm being :optimistic:, but I wish that medical professionals in particular would sound an alarm already and just profess what they already know. That no amount of hormones or surgery can change your birth sex and that there are fundamental and unchangeable differences between men and women on a physical level that need to be recognised and respected.
This is the one area that Brits are way ahead of the US on. Doctors are writing opinion pieces about how fucked up it is. Women's place is organizing meetings, troons are protesting while wearing masks like crazy people. Mass resignations from the labor party. It's coming to a head.

I posted an article in this forum about #manfriday where feminists identify as men on Friday's to go to men only space and educate about self identification laws, the idea started on mumsnet.

Why on Earth are there troons on a mommy forum?
How many trans people are also parents? Like 5 of them?
be fair, I'm sure some of them read about pregnancy and breastfeeding on MN to help them jerk off
 
Social Media was a mistake.

It gives whack jobs and looney troons way to loud a voice. No way should a >1% subset of the population have this much say over social norms.

Fuck these bastshit Trannys and thier virtue signaling supporters. The sooner they sucicide out of life the better for the rest of us.
 
I know I'm being :optimistic:, but I wish that medical professionals in particular would sound an alarm already and just profess what they already know. That no amount of hormones or surgery can change your birth sex and that there are fundamental and unchangeable differences between men and women on a physical level that need to be recognised and respected.
While some transgender-friendly sources like the "National Transgender Discrimination Survey Report on Health and Health Care" outright confirm that people who medically transition or surgically transition have a higher suicide attempt rate, not lower, than those who do not undergo an operation, and long-term cohorts in ahead of the curve prog paradises like Sweden are finally turning up results, shithuffers like this guy help publish uncitable garbage like this paper.
Frank et al.'s use of Dhejne's work is a perfect demonstration in incompetence. They cited a 2016 contemporary literary analysis by Dhejne that "identifies 38 cross-sectional and longitudinal studies describing prevalence rates of psychiatric disorders and psychiatric outcomes, pre- and post-gender-confirming medical interventions, for people with gender dysphoria."
In other words, a paper that reviews the same sources used by the "what we know" paper, and comes to the same conclusion (not nearly as confidently!). They also cited Dhejne's 2014 analysis of no prevailing transgender "regret rate" as favorable, which utilizes the same cohort as the 2011 paper I mentioned before. Said 2011 paper was not cited as counter-evidence, or at all, even though it clearly states "Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism".
You can't just take what you like and then discard refutations out of hand and pretend you're doing fucking science.​
Furthermore, the 2011 paper words the results as favorably as possible to sex reassignment, even though it establishes no pre-op or no-op transgender control group to compare with. What it does demonstrate is a suicide aHR of 19.1 and preposterously huge confidence interval of 5.8 to 62.9 after reassignment surgery. A closer look at the actual suicide rate itself demonstrates 2.7 per 1000 person-years, which is enormous compared to the control group's rate of 0.1 per 1000 person-years.
Keep in mind, all it took to get the government to start mandating "WARNING: DO NOT DIVE" stickers at public pools was a mortality rate of about 0.45 per thousand person-years. That's how much of a joke this whole field of study is.
If something this fucking awful gets uncritical play in the media, how do you expect 'society' to react to a contradictory viewpoint? If you thought "violently", you're on the money. We passed the :optimistic: event horizon ages ago.
 
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