Sonichu Facebook Update 8/25/14- Sonichu Allergic to Pickles...

[BillRiley]

Why does he insist on continuing to talk about Sonichu if he allegedly is never going to draw another comic again? Or have I been severely misinformed?

Well, it isn't like he's every directly stated: "I'm not never go-gonna draw da Sonichu c-comic ever again. So dere!" But it's easy enough to infer from Chris'tards behaviour that he's realized, however dimly, that his grand geinus-level once-in-a-millennium idea will never magically morph into a wildly popular comicbook/game empire that will solve all his money problems, cure his autism and bag him that hot model/rich entrepreneur he's always deserved. And if that's not gonna happen, well then, it's back to the autistic purgatory that is Cwcville for poor old Sonichu.

tl;dr - Sonichu hasn't ceased to be. It's just ceased to matter.

 

[drtoboggan]

Sonichu is alive and well in his head. If he draws anymore, which is a toss up, he probably keeps it to himself due to the "trolls"

 

[A Random]

Someone has suggested that Chris just doesn't verbalize what his imagination does anymore, at least in public. This is a rare change.

 

[warongiygas]

Why does he insist on continuing to talk about Sonichu if he allegedly is never going to draw another comic again? Or have I been severely misinformed?

Chris is really proud of Sonichu. It's literally the best thing he's ever accomplished. Given his lifestyle as social pariah, I'm not surprised he's still developing his fantasy reality. He's just not sharing it with the unwashed masses of the internet because every one of us is a DANG, DIRTY TROLL... unless we give him lego $$$

 

[Anustart]

Now he must do a retcon a la the Raichu tail debacle and redraw the pages where CWCville's fast food restaurants not only offer pickles but knowingly give them to Sonichu.

He has occasionally said things like "I am ok with gay men in principle, they should just keep it to themselves." Which is basically his attitude about men in general.

Yeah that's just one of his "I don't know why people are mad but they're threatening to leave, so I'll tell them the lie they want to hear because of their utility to me" things. Chris feels assaulted by the fact that gay men even exist and considers his preoccupation with them to be their fault somehow, so there will never be a universe where they "keep it to themselves" enough to satisfy him. That platitude is most likely just another thing he's heard other people say (and of course many of them are also secretly lying to seem tolerant).

 

[Henry Bemis]

Chris is really proud of Sonichu. It's literally the best only thing he's ever accomplished.

Fixed

 

[Mogambo]

Why does he insist on continuing to talk about Sonichu if he allegedly is never going to draw another comic again? Or have I been severely misinformed?

I think... its actually a long, complicated issue. I don't think Chris was ever all that interested in doing the Sonichu comic in the first place. That's hard work, and causes too much stress. If Chris was really interested, one would expect he would actually practice drawing, invest in some decent quality paper, charcoal pencils, and other art supplies, and not just scan in the first crappy go at it, complete with typos and... misdrawn abominations with no sense of perspective. Hell, even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he really believed his efforts were all masterpieces, just look at how long the delays were between issues.

So no, I don't think that Sonichu was ever intended as a comic, and its not just because of Chris' atismu. He always seemed to view them more like TV shows, down to referring to them as "episodes" and giving them TV ratings! More tellingly, he had incredibly elaborate back stories that were only explained in detail on the wiki... or worse yet, only existed in his head canon. I think, for Chris, Sonichu was about wish fulfillment. It was sort of like an imaginary friend for him to go on adventures with, and we were just sort of spectators. Not to mention, Chris sucked as a storyteller. He didn't have a sense of character development, or personality, but more importantly, he never put his characters into any real sense of danger or conflict either. It was more of a sandbox than a linear story.

Between the trolling and forced death of Simonla, Chris has retreated into a more private medium. His Lego universe is more suited to the adventures of Sonichu, and I suspect Chris is still telling the story. Its just that its not really going anywhere, and with his piss poor memory, its likely he doesn't even remember all of the details. More's the pity, because Sonichu was... amusing in its own sort of way.

 

[Marvin]

Except in OPL's case, he's actually not okay with it in principle. He's far too deeply indoctrinated to push aside his natural homophobic urges.
Ah, but that is the rub. He has both homophobic and homoerotic urges.
Like most hardcore gaybashers, he hates in others what he most hates in himself.
He, like most hardcore gaybashers, never got the memo: Other "men in general" are NOT "tormented" by thoughts of throbbing dicks and succulent manflesh. The 100% heterosexual male can go for decades without "craving" gay sex or even noticing it exists.
The 100% heterosexual male does not need to grip their optimus prime doll and stare fixedly at Sailor Moon to fight off those urges; because they don't have those urges.

TL;DR version: OPL is Ted Haggard, except fatter and dumber.

Pfft, Chris doesn't have gay fantasies. He's a retard who thinks ever imagining a dick implies sexual attraction.

You're looking at Chris as if he was a not-retarded.

 

[drtoboggan]

I think... its actually a long, complicated issue. I don't think Chris was ever all that interested in doing the Sonichu comic in the first place. That's hard work, and causes too much stress. If Chris was really interested, one would expect he would actually practice drawing, invest in some decent quality paper, charcoal pencils, and other art supplies, and not just scan in the first crappy go at it, complete with typos and... misdrawn abominations with no sense of perspective. Hell, even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he really believed his efforts were all masterpieces, just look at how long the delays were between issues.

So no, I don't think that Sonichu was ever intended as a comic, and its not just because of Chris' atismu. He always seemed to view them more like TV shows, down to referring to them as "episodes" and giving them TV ratings! More tellingly, he had incredibly elaborate back stories that were only explained in detail on the wiki... or worse yet, only existed in his head canon. I think, for Chris, Sonichu was about wish fulfillment. It was sort of like an imaginary friend for him to go on adventures with, and we were just sort of spectators. Not to mention, Chris sucked as a storyteller. He didn't have a sense of character development, or personality, but more importantly, he never put his characters into any real sense of danger or conflict either. It was more of a sandbox than a linear story.

Between the trolling and forced death of Simonla, Chris has retreated into a more private medium. His Lego universe is more suited to the adventures of Sonichu, and I suspect Chris is still telling the story. Its just that its not really going anywhere, and with his piss poor memory, its likely he doesn't even remember all of the details. More's the pity, because Sonichu was... amusing in its own sort of way.

You brought up some good points. I'm going to say he probably abandoned the comic due to ween shenanigans and troll intrusion, that Sonichu exists primarily in his autistic imagination alone now. Probably still draws, but not as a comic.
This could be why he still talks to the fictional characters and retcons them. I forgot to factor in laziness when I assumed he might still draw them. Even at his own slow pace, why bother with things like effort?

 

[timtommy]

I think... its actually a long, complicated issue. I don't think Chris was ever all that interested in doing the Sonichu comic in the first place. That's hard work, and causes too much stress. If Chris was really interested, one would expect he would actually practice drawing, invest in some decent quality paper, charcoal pencils, and other art supplies, and not just scan in the first crappy go at it, complete with typos and... misdrawn abominations with no sense of perspective. Hell, even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he really believed his efforts were all masterpieces, just look at how long the delays were between issues.

So no, I don't think that Sonichu was ever intended as a comic, and its not just because of Chris' atismu. He always seemed to view them more like TV shows, down to referring to them as "episodes" and giving them TV ratings! More tellingly, he had incredibly elaborate back stories that were only explained in detail on the wiki... or worse yet, only existed in his head canon. I think, for Chris, Sonichu was about wish fulfillment. It was sort of like an imaginary friend for him to go on adventures with, and we were just sort of spectators. Not to mention, Chris sucked as a storyteller. He didn't have a sense of character development, or personality, but more importantly, he never put his characters into any real sense of danger or conflict either. It was more of a sandbox than a linear story.

Between the trolling and forced death of Simonla, Chris has retreated into a more private medium. His Lego universe is more suited to the adventures of Sonichu, and I suspect Chris is still telling the story. Its just that its not really going anywhere, and with his piss poor memory, its likely he doesn't even remember all of the details. More's the pity, because Sonichu was... amusing in its own sort of way.

In one of Chris' very first videos. He said "It has come to my attention that I have a lot... more fans of my electronk—Electric Hedgehog Pokémon Sonichu than I had originally thought, and I thank each and every one of you for your support." I think that really supports your theory.

Sonichu was a fun thing for him to think about. "What if my two favourite characters, Sonic and Pikachu, merged, and lived in a world where I was mayor? Wouldn't that be neat?" So when he was bored, he would daydream about it, or build things from that world out of lego, or draw it. He put some drawings online, not planning to launch anything big, but just as another way of screwing around casually in this world.

Then he was hit with what he is most vulnerable to, insincere, over the top complements. If you tell him something good about him he absorbs it into his identity very quickly, even if he hadn't thought about it before.

So he very quickly came to believe that the crap he had been drawing was fantastic and had a huge following. I assume he never thought it was crap, he probably thought of it as good stuff that would impress people, but never really considered developing a fandase.

Once he thought he had a fandase, he had no end of troubles and a bunch of "obligations". He enjoyed it at first, but then the bad started outweighing the good and he blocked it out and backed away from publishing Sonichu publicly.

But I don't think Sonichu was ever over. The full Sonichu canon, in Chris' mind, is made up of every time he has ever daydreamed, or played with legos, or gotten into a situation and wished he had a friend with superpowers to help him out of it, or doodled something on a piece of paper. The comics saga was just a period of time when Chris let us see a small part of that canon.

 

[Half The Idea]

Chris DOES know that pickles are made from cucumbers, right?

Spoiler

Update: Finally figured out how SPOILERS works, so I reformatted the post.

Just noticed this, which might suggest Chris actually at some point knew what a cucumber is in relation to 'pickles':

http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/CWC_Update_18_March_2009_More_Updated#Video

Official description: If I do not have the website back up by the Eye of Judgment Tournament's End, I will upload the comic pages to the comic page hosting site I have been made aware of, and will post the address alongside the following video then. Also, cucumbered people, the Police are onto your game now, after that fiasco the afternoon of March 19 in front of Eddie Baur; Watch Your Backs.

 

[Holdek]

You brought up some good points. I'm going to say he probably abandoned the comic due to ween shenanigans and troll intrusion, that Sonichu exists primarily in his autistic imagination alone now. Probably still draws, but not as a comic.
This could be why he still talks to the fictional characters and retcons them. I forgot to factor in laziness when I assumed he might still draw them. Even at his own slow pace, why bother with things like effort?

Chris has explained that Sonichu is not dead, but that he stopped for now because of the combination of trolling and the pressure of his fandase to keep making it, which "killed [his] creativity." I think otherwise he genuinely enjoyed putting in effort on the comic when he wasn't being prodded to by capitalist overlords.

 

[Dr. Tremolo]

For "now", huh...
I think he stopped because he got even lazier than before, and he doesn't need it anyway because he has his adventures in his head.

 

[drtoboggan]

For "now", huh...
I think he stopped because he got even lazier than before, and he doesn't need it anyway because he has his adventures in his head.

Sadly, I doubt any of them are interesting. Revenge of the German Warfare Bitch is probably way more entertaining in someone else's head than it is for Chris.

 

[Holdek]

Sadly, I doubt any of them are interesting. Revenge of the German Warfare Bitch is probably way more entertaining in someone else's head than it is for Chris.

You can't make up the crazy shit Chris comes up with as real, though.

 

[LordCustos3]

Pfft, Chris doesn't have gay fantasies. He's a exceptional individual who thinks ever imagining a dick implies sexual attraction.
You're looking at Chris as if he was a not-retarded.

I never said he had gay "fantasies", I said he had gay "urges".
And yes, I am keeping in mind that OPL is wetodded. Thats why I say OPL has urges but doesn't have enough creativity, depth or vision to turn those urges into full blown fantasies.

But lets put that aside.....his deep-seated disgust with Da Gheyz is indistinguishable from the same deep-seated self-loathing that closetcases like George Rekers, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, etc. etc. etc. have.
Granted, the self-loathing of said closetcases is still delusional self-deception, but its at least the delusional self-deception of someone stuck at a mental age of 11......instead of the mental age of 4.
Marv, I would like you to give a fuller rebuttal than a vague dismissal. You may know OPL better than I do, but it doesn't take that much personal contact with OPL to spot where his head is at. Neither of us need to be Masters and Johnson to spot it. A blind man with a broken gaydar could detect OPL's closetcasedness through a brick wall.
I stand by my assertion that OPL is a self-loathing fruitcup. There are only differences between Rekers/Haggard/Craig et al and OPL when it comes to Da Gheyness:
1) Rekers/Haggard/Craig have thought consciously about their condition and have burned lean tissue into the night concocting carefully calibrated narratives of self deception. OPL hasn't thought that deeply, merely acted on his infantile urges.
2) Rekers/Haggard/Craig at least dress like men (at least in public, as far as i know.) OPL doesn't even fucking bother with that shit. He WANTS people to see him as The Worlds Most Unappealing Drag Queen.....because it is his weetoded way of busting falling clumsily out of the closet.


TL;DR version: OPL is dumb, but wants cock and is too dumb to know he wants cock. Prove me wrong.

 

[Marvin]

I never said he had gay "fantasies", I said he had gay "urges".
And yes, I am keeping in mind that OPL is wetodded. Thats why I say OPL has urges but doesn't have enough creativity, depth or vision to turn those urges into full blown fantasies.

But lets put that aside.....his deep-seated disgust with Da Gheyz is indistinguishable from the same deep-seated self-loathing that closetcases like George Rekers, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, etc. etc. etc. have.
Granted, the self-loathing of said closetcases is still delusional self-deception, but its at least the delusional self-deception of someone stuck at a mental age of 11......instead of the mental age of 4.
Marv, I would like you to give a fuller rebuttal than a vague dismissal. You may know OPL better than I do, but it doesn't take that much personal contact with OPL to spot where his head is at. Neither of us need to be Masters and Johnson to spot it. A blind man with a broken gaydar could detect OPL's closetcasedness through a brick wall.
I stand by my assertion that OPL is a self-loathing fruitcup. There are only differences between Rekers/Haggard/Craig et al and OPL when it comes to Da Gheyness:
1) Rekers/Haggard/Craig have thought consciously about their condition and have burned lean tissue into the night concocting carefully calibrated narratives of self deception. OPL hasn't thought that deeply, merely acted on his infantile urges.
2) Rekers/Haggard/Craig at least dress like men (at least in public, as far as i know.) OPL doesn't even fucking bother with that shit. He WANTS people to see him as The Worlds Most Unappealing Drag Queen.....because it is his weetoded way of [strike]busting [/strike] falling clumsily out of the closet.


TL;DR version: OPL is dumb, but wants cock and is too dumb to know he wants cock. Prove me wrong.

Gay urges aren't anything quantifiable.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Why does he insist on continuing to talk about Sonichu if he allegedly is never going to draw another comic again? Or have I been severely misinformed?

Not much to add that hasn't been said but don't forget Chris thinks Sonichu actually exists in a Who Framed Rodger Rabbit style parallel universe and claims to speak to Sonichu and the others so maybe he sees it as giving everyone an update to what's going on in Cwcville?

 

[BillRiley]

TL;DR version: OPL is dumb, but wants cock and is too dumb to know he wants cock. Prove me wrong.

Gay urges aren't anything quantifiable.

Well, look, you're both kinda right. One way to describe human sexuality is on a sliding scale. (Well, a series of scales actually but lets jut stick to one for now.) On one end of the scale is 100% Heterosexual and at the other end is 100% Homosexual. Very very very few people rank at the far ends of the scale.

Now, absent a battery of tests it's impossible to tell approximately where Fat Dummy parks in on the scale. But it's a safe bet to predict he doesn't rank on either extreme end. So it's also safe to say that Ricky Retardo has, from time-to-time, thought about homosexual acts. It's the bizarre way that Chris reacts to these thoughts that I find so hilarious.

tl:dr - Chris'tard is probably a little gay (like most people) and very very very weird (unlike most people).

 

[Marvin]

Well, look, you're both kinda right. One way to describe human sexuality is on a sliding scale. (Well, a series of scales actually but lets jut stick to one for now.) On one end of the scale is 100% Heterosexual and at the other end is 100% Homosexual. Very very very few people rank at the far ends of the scale.

Now, absent a battery of tests it's impossible to tell approximately where Fat Dummy parks in on the scale. But it's a safe bet to predict he doesn't rank on either extreme end. So it's also safe to say that Ricky Retardo has, from time-to-time, thought about homosexual acts. It's the bizarre way that Chris reacts to these thoughts that I find so hilarious.

tl:dr - Chris'tard is probably a little gay (like most people) and very very very weird (unlike most people).

Eh, we can't establish that he's had specifically sexual thoughts about men that aroused him. So, then we're just having to determine if he's heterosexual or asexual, with the latter being pretty unlikely.