🪦 Deceased Amanda/Amelia Baggs / witharoundsmoothstone / ballastexistenz - moonfaced malingering autistic "activist"/SJW

All the stuff from shanndog is really interesting. Ive never understood the idea of wanting to become disabled, maybe it’s a control thing? Like if you have someone caring for you, you have control over their actions as you can easily guilt them into doing whatever you want.

Ive had Fibromyalgia (chronic pain and fatigue) for coming on to 3 years now, and I honestly couldn’t imagine someone wanting to have something like it- it’s horrible to loose the ability to do stuff that everyone around you can do. But people like Amanda seem to yearn for that... Maybe it’s a culture/country thing? Idk how your social benefits work across the pond but the U.K. system is terribly flawed- not sure if she would qualify for anything if she was here. It’s all assessment based, and the assessors aren’t even doctors (lmao), so it’s a bit of a lottery on what the outcome would be. I don’t get a penny from the gov, and anyone can look at me and see i’m crippled lmao. It would be interesting to see if she would change her fake illnesses of choice if she was here .

If she’s faking her way through this for monitary reasons, that’s a whole new level of reason to piss me off, it’s hard enough to be taken seriously as a cripple, we don’t need people like this making it worse.
 
All the stuff from shanndog is really interesting. Ive never understood the idea of wanting to become disabled, maybe it’s a control thing? Like if you have someone caring for you, you have control over their actions as you can easily guilt them into doing whatever you want.

Ive had Fibromyalgia (chronic pain and fatigue) for coming on to 3 years now, and I honestly couldn’t imagine someone wanting to have something like it- it’s horrible to loose the ability to do stuff that everyone around you can do. But people like Amanda seem to yearn for that... Maybe it’s a culture/country thing? Idk how your social benefits work across the pond but the U.K. system is terribly flawed- not sure if she would qualify for anything if she was here. It’s all assessment based, and the assessors aren’t even doctors (lmao), so it’s a bit of a lottery on what the outcome would be. I don’t get a penny from the gov, and anyone can look at me and see i’m crippled lmao. It would be interesting to see if she would change her fake illnesses of choice if she was here .

If she’s faking her way through this for monitary reasons, that’s a whole new level of reason to piss me off, it’s hard enough to be taken seriously as a cripple, we don’t need people like this making it worse.

When she as outed as a faker by her former friends and class mates years ago after her ''interviews'' and documentary they had some interesting things to write about her. She decided she was autistic in the very early 2000's and then that she would be ''non-verbal, low functioning'' shortly after.

After watching the 2004 documentary ''Autism is a world'' about an Autistic woman (Sue Ruban) who uses facilitated communication to communicate Amanda started copying this idea herself and also started using a communication device. Here is the documentary that ''inspired'' Amanda



Also I'm not sure if Amanda does this just to cheat the system for financial gain. Apparently her California based family had some money to send her to some private school in Massachusetts so they must not be too poor. I bet they would financially support her if she desired certainly with more money than what she could get from the government.
 
All the stuff from shanndog is really interesting. Ive never understood the idea of wanting to become disabled, maybe it’s a control thing? Like if you have someone caring for you, you have control over their actions as you can easily guilt them into doing whatever you want.

Ive had Fibromyalgia (chronic pain and fatigue) for coming on to 3 years now, and I honestly couldn’t imagine someone wanting to have something like it- it’s horrible to loose the ability to do stuff that everyone around you can do. But people like Amanda seem to yearn for that... Maybe it’s a culture/country thing? Idk how your social benefits work across the pond but the U.K. system is terribly flawed- not sure if she would qualify for anything if she was here. It’s all assessment based, and the assessors aren’t even doctors (lmao), so it’s a bit of a lottery on what the outcome would be. I don’t get a penny from the gov, and anyone can look at me and see i’m crippled lmao. It would be interesting to see if she would change her fake illnesses of choice if she was here .

If she’s faking her way through this for monitary reasons, that’s a whole new level of reason to piss me off, it’s hard enough to be taken seriously as a cripple, we don’t need people like this making it worse.

thanks, well i have the info i do because i personally knew her in real life as in hung out together for a few years and we were ''friends'' i use that term loosely because she lied and played games with me too- she was a major ass, and she was real good at twistin things so she could play that victim card, and would accouse other folks of playing victim or trying to be '' more disabled ten her'' but would be constantly doign that very same thing she accusing others of doing ! but yet early on she seemed so genuine. and she even helped me at one point , but later she used that as a scapegoat cop out type thing and turned the tables and acted like i was this and i was doin that, when i never did.
she called many folks a stalker, she even called me a stalker, uum, no honey, i asked if i could meet her and she said yes, i never stalked her- i dont have it in me to hurt another person i been burned way too much to do that, ---but amanda crazy mind she saw things in ways that just do not compute. --but she accuses all kinds of folks as stalking, when they did no such thing, so i have a personal level of hate for her and one other person
(thomas wood ) yes these are the type of people i knew / met when i lived up north )

right i agree, well the US our disability supports and befits are similar to you guys in the uk, and very flawed, underfunded and just poorly run and done...

but i guess for some folks who do this crap its the attention they like the attention, i dont understand it

no i dont understand why any body chooses to be disabled, i mean, there is no perks, its not a bad thing, its just a part of life its part of human diversity--- its not a bad thing or a good thing, its just, is.... but to want to be disabled, no, the so called supports and benefits are not worth it lol like i said i think for amanda and thomas, and similar i think its an attention thing, and its sick ! ;-/ im fascinated by this bizarre stuff but also confused disgusted by it too.


yes it is, its bullshit, FC has been tested many times and its been proven to be fake, its been debunked but people use it because agencies get funding for it---it lines employees pockets so...yeah at the expense of taking away a person autonomous voice :(

When she as outed as a faker by her former friends and class mates years ago after her ''interviews'' and documentary they had some interesting things to write about her. She decided she was autistic in the very early 2000's and then that she would be ''non-verbal, low functioning'' shortly after.

After watching the 2004 documentary ''Autism is a world'' about an Autistic woman (Sue Ruban) who uses facilitated communication to communicate Amanda started copying this idea herself and also started using a communication device. Here is the documentary that ''inspired'' Amanda

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fhNXUSuFt9w

Also I'm not sure if Amanda does this just to cheat the system for financial gain. Apparently her California based family had some money to send her to some private school in Massachusetts so they must not be too poor. I bet they would financially support her if she desired certainly with more money than what she could get from the government.

her family was not too well off, they a re country folks, she might have had a grant or such for that gifted school she was at , yes i rember seeing her early blogs and wrtings in the early 2000s, and she had so many disabled folks, proffessionals,( including my case worker and my job coach, ) teachers ect. me included fooled for YEARS, ( my case worker at the time had even introduced me to some of her writings )

now i had no clue she model herself after that sue rubin doc. i didnt realize that, but i would not be surprised if she did, the time line kinda lines up with that, but as the long list of details goes for her time line into insanety she was in a couple of mental places group home type half way facilities for mental illness she claimed BIID, schitz, multiple personalities, ect, but she befriended auties because they didnt make fun of her,.....now : she was a good strong advocate, she was really good at commuicating with autistics and other develppmetnally disabled folks.

BUT if she had just been an advocate and allie ---that would have been great, but no she had to put on this act, and just throw her whole life away and hurt others in the process her bullshit has made i t that much harder fort actual disabled people to be heard and took seriously, and like i said to another poster in this group she is a good actor if she had applied herself she would have been a damn good actor, and could played disabled parts and quite good too, but again, no she applied her self in the wrong ways and just ruined her life and a lotpof others with it.
 
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her family was not too well off, they a re country folks, she might have had a grant or such for that gifted school she was at , yes i rember seeing her early blogs and wrtings in the early 2000s, and she had so many disabled folks, proffessionals,( including my case worker and my job coach, ) teachers ect. me included fooled for YEARS, ( my case worker at the time had even introduced me to some of her writings )

now i had no clue she model herself after that sue rubin doc. i didnt realize that, but i would not be surprised if she did, the time line kinda lines up with that, but as the long list of details goes for her time line into insanety she was in a couple of mental places group home type half way facilities for mental illness she claimed BIID, schitz, multiple personalities, ect, but she befriended auties because they didnt make fun of her,.....now : she was a good strong advocate, she was really good at commuicating with autistics and other develppmetnally disabled folks.

BUT if she had just been an advocate and allie ---that would have been great, but no she had to put on this act, and just throw her whole life away and hurt others in the process her bullshit has made i t that much harder fort actual disabled people to be heard and took seriously, and like i said to another poster in this group she is a good actor if she had applied herself she would have been a damn good actor, and could played disabled parts and quite good too, but again, no she applied her self in the wrong ways and just ruined her life and a lotpof others with it.
Do you think it's possible for her to turn her life around, if by some miracle she came to her senses and stopped faking multiple disabilities/mental illnesses? Considering her internet presence, I would think she would have to drop everything, maybe even get a name change and move to another country, maybe. There's also the fact that she has a feeding tube and tons of other facilities to help with her fake disabilities.
 
Do you think it's possible for her to turn her life around, if by some miracle she came to her senses and stopped faking multiple disabilities/mental illnesses? Considering her internet presence, I would think she would have to drop everything, maybe even get a name change and move to another country, maybe. There's also the fact that she has a feeding tube and tons of other facilities to help with her fake disabilities.


i hear ya but she been doing this for so many years i dont see her as ever turning her life around and after all this she will never be respected anywhere i mean she had a following from allover US canada and europe and a few others here n there ... i mean even if she made a public formal apology that would help to a degree i think, maybe, and if she actually turned around and help people, then maybe, earn forgiveness and respct but she loooves her sum victim / oppression points, its sad and disgusting, i know i said it before but i cant wrap my head around this, i still cant... haha its funny you mention name change though, shes done that quitea bit through the years,
mel baggs, Amelia, Amanda, nightsong, and more, i actually met her mother once briefly , i cant believe her mom didnt disown her ! i would . if that was my kid pulling this crap id disown her
 
i hear ya but she been doing this for so many years i dont see her as ever turning her life around and after all this she will never be respected anywhere i mean she had a following from allover US canada and europe and a few others here n there ... i mean even if she made a public formal apology that would help to a degree i think, maybe, and if she actually turned around and help people, then maybe, earn forgiveness and respct but she loooves her sum victim / oppression points, its sad and disgusting, i know i said it before but i cant wrap my head around this, i still cant... haha its funny you mention name change though, shes done that quitea bit through the years,
mel baggs, Amelia, Amanda, nightsong, and more, i actually met her mother once briefly , i cant believe her mom didnt disown her ! i would . if that was my kid pulling this crap id disown her

Her following was from ages ago though, she had a very swift backlash against her when people found out she was faking and then her popularity tapered off. No more interviews with ''ability magazine'' and no media attention. If she decided to cut it out now I don't think anyone would bat an eyelash. The U.S government however might.. I'm not from the U.S but I know they're strict down there when someone is accused of fraud, even disability or medicaid fraud. She could end up serving time in prison. So I don't think she'd be willing to admit to anything.
 
tbh in her gross state i have a feeling she could go the way of that kadee constantino girl. if she tries to intentionally infect herself with something through the feeding tube, there is a very good chance it could be fatal. just cause you didn't die the first time doesn't mean it's not a stupidly dangerous thing to do.
also she's fat lol
 
Her following was from ages ago though, she had a very swift backlash against her when people found out she was faking and then her popularity tapered off. No more interviews with ''ability magazine'' and no media attention. If she decided to cut it out now I don't think anyone would bat an eyelash. The U.S government however might.. I'm not from the U.S but I know they're strict down there when someone is accused of fraud, even disability or medicaid fraud. She could end up serving time in prison. So I don't think she'd be willing to admit to anything.

yeah you gota good point, she has not been involved in anything in the gimp community in reallife or online that iknow of , i mean other ten her tumblr stuff

yeah i dont understand why our gov has not stepped in and arrested her !, but then again to have the mindd set to do the crap shes done over the years, you are mentally ill, no sane stable person with all the marbles does stuff like this, so i guess its catch 22 yes its illegal, it is fraud, but she is mentally ill, shes not sane and rational so i think that is where she gets her cop out, but--- there is plenty of mentally ill folks who are serving time for thew crimes they commit so---- uugh, i don get it, who knows,i do kinda wish the hat could be dropped and she would have to pay the price for whats shes done
 
she called many folks a stalker, she even called me a stalker, uum, no honey, i asked if i could meet her and she said yes, i never stalked her- i dont have it in me to hurt another person i been burned way too much to do that, ---but amanda crazy mind she saw things in ways that just do not compute. --but she accuses all kinds of folks as stalking, when they did no such thing, so i have a personal level of hate for her and one other person
(thomas wood ) yes these are the type of people i knew / met when i lived up north )

Something I have learned about stalkers, particularly female stalkers, is that they will accuse the person they're stalking of stalking them as a way of trying to make their target shut the fuck up about being stalked.

It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Amanda would do that.
 
Something I have learned about stalkers, particularly female stalkers, is that they will accuse the person they're stalking of stalking them as a way of trying to make their target shut the fuck up about being stalked.

It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Amanda would do that.

yeah thats true, especially since amanda has over the years ''collected''traits an symptoms from many people and copied them to add to her and play up her 'tism' ... i dont think she was stalking me really, she was just manipulative as hell and kept twisting things so me as well as other folks were seen as '' attacking her and endangering her'' my dad knows aaaalllll about this chick too since she was a supposed friend and even helped me at one point...-- and he is just as confused as te rest of us
 

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She didn't dispute their claims, but still lawyered up on them anyway.
 
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She didn't dispute their claims, but still lawyered up on them anyway.

yup and i notice anyt ime any body has said anything about the back story on youtube, on her things, or on there own channels, or wiki and so fourth, they get deleted, quickly, she got some body helping im sure, but some how some way there is active work goingon to shut down the truth, so im glad this is here and we can get the real truth out this way , like i said i got personal beef, as this person tried pulling some serious games on me plus she mislead me and many of my peers ;-/
 
The claims that she's faking being on the page at all is an improvement, at least, even if they're very whitewashed. There used to be an editor constantly removing all mention of them and blaming them on anti-autistic bigotry, which couldn't be further from the truth.
 
The claims that she's faking being on the page at all is an improvement, at least, even if they're very whitewashed. There used to be an editor constantly removing all mention of them and blaming them on anti-autistic bigotry, which couldn't be further from the truth.

the only mention i really see tat stays up is in te wording of it like '' she reportedly'' lost abilities around 20 yrs old, and used to go to gifted school, does not dispute these claims''' you know...but yes you are right its very vague and whitewashed like you said, and that is as far as it goes, things still get very quickly deleted if any one makes a vid of their own or a post abut her, on there own sites or on anything with her name mentioned, it gets deleted.... i honestly wonder how.... and i wonder how the stuff that is up, like the am baggs controversy how come those are ( thankfully) still up ?
 
I don't think it's come up in this thread before, but "with a round smooth stone" is from an ee cummings poem. It's a little weird, because the exact quote varies (sometimes 'round smooth' and sometimes 'smooth round', for example). It's always attributed to cummings, but there doesn't seem to be a 'rest of it' so perhaps it's just a couplet. Anyway:

“May came home with a round smooth stone
as small as a world and as large as alone.”

And no, I didn't happen to know that; I heard someone quote it on the radio recently.
 
I noticed this going through her selfie tag (I'm on mobile so I dont know how old this photo is, it was amongst a wall of text that would rival the great wall of China) and the brown bracelet has "I am a Steriod Dependent...user?" written on it. Cant quite make it out. But it's just assumption

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I noticed this going through her selfie tag (I'm on mobile so I dont know how old this photo is, it was amongst a wall of text that would rival the great wall of China) and the brown bracelet has "I am a Steriod Dependent...user?" written on it. Cant quite make it out. But it's just assumption


My guess is the wristband is there for EMTs that might come to her aid.

Of course Amanda would show it off.
 
My guess is the wristband is there for EMTs that might come to her aid.

Of course Amanda would show it off.

im sure she has those to show off, she has had medical id thigns when i knew here plus the life alert button---not sure if she still has those or not-----i have some medical ID dog tags but i keep them tucked under my shirt, i do NOT let people see them, they are for emergancy only. id neevr wear it where it was in plain view.

when i knew her in real life she also had a little white button on her necklace , and one on her wrist it was a life alert button, those were a thing a service that came with the howard services package, is 24/7 on cal for emergency, and phone call reminders to take meds and stuff, oh yes yes she had all these services
 
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