3/2018 - Trespassed at Fashion Square Mall / banned from End Games

Where did he tresspass?

  • Fashion Square Mall (including the Gamestop within)

    Votos: 420 44.9%
  • Gamestops (outside of the Mall)

    Votos: 246 26.3%
  • BestBuy

    Votos: 22 2.4%
  • Walmart

    Votos: 66 7.1%
  • Snyder's Home

    Votos: 92 9.8%
  • Other

    Votos: 89 9.5%

  • Total de votantes
    935
  • Encuesta cerrada .
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If anywhere would be intent on enforcing a trespass action, it would be that place. Stores will put up with a lot of shit for $$$ from tards and ignore some sperging but they don't want to be liable for potential worker's compensation claims or worse if they let some idiot in that previously pepper sprayed one of their employees.

Especially if said trespassing idiot was spotted carrying a bat while traversing the area.

Wouldn't matter if the bat was safely tucked into his backpack the entire time; after the pepper spraying incident, you'd have to be especially incompetent not to immediately intervene and remove him from the premises.

Considering they had to go to court for this - chances are good that CWC put up a fight instead of immediately leaving when instructed to do so.
 
I like that after all this time Chris still surprises us with his dumb actions.
It's a miracle he hasn't referred to himself as a trap. Also, I don't trust that ebay message.
I think it might be legit, if Chris thinks he’s getting something from you (Like in this case where there’s a potential customer) he sometimes answers random questions.
 
It's a miracle he hasn't referred to himself as a trap. Also, I don't trust that ebay message.

Probably because he's convinced himself that he would only count as a trap if he was looking for a male lover and not a boyfriend free girl. Because, in CWC's warped reality, lesbians are totally keen on dating trans women; especially if she still has a dick; because, all women - no matter what their sexual preference - crave the D (why would they use dildos if they didn't?)!

And CWC is just the whole irresistible enchilada - what with him oozing femininity and sporting that 'damned 7 incher!' that women will readily drop their panties for. What woman could possibly resist him?

*hurk!*
 
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The Gamestop probably makes the most sense. Given that he was just charged with trespassing, it seems like he probably didn't do too much beyond just being some place he shouldn't. And the general procedure of a place that bans someone is to ask them to leave and then to forget about it if he goes quietly and doesn't come back for a while. It's just not worth the effort to follow-up with police and the court system to make sure some weirdo who didn't cause you or your store much harm gets a slap on the wrist.

But Gamestop is an exception. If you take it from the perspective of someone working at Gamestop who doesn't know much Christory, a weird looking guy comes in and starts messing with your merchandise. You ask him to leave, and he is back a couple weeks later. You ask him to leave again and he maces one of your employees. It's easy to conclude he is a potentially unstable menace and you can't have him around.

From Chris perspective I think it went something like this.

Chris wrote a bunch of letters after the Gamestop incident trying to clear things up. He made some attempts at apology, and definitely tried to put the incident to bed and get himself reinstated as a welcome customer.

I actually think he has a good sense he fucked up during the December 26 incident. Proobably not as much as of a sense as he should, but he knows he isn't blameless for that. But he also has the formula "I apologize, you forgive me" permanently ingrained in his psyche. So if he apologized, and they not only didn't forgive him, but continued to ban him and brought further charges against him when he came back, he thinks they violated the rules of society in a way that victimized him.
 
The Gamestop probably makes the most sense. Given that he was just charged with trespassing, it seems like he probably didn't do too much beyond just being some place he shouldn't. And the general procedure of a place that bans someone is to ask them to leave and then to forget about it if he goes quietly and doesn't come back for a while. It's just not worth the effort to follow-up with police and the court system to make sure some weirdo who didn't cause you or your store much harm gets a slap on the wrist.

But Gamestop is an exception. If you take it from the perspective of someone working at Gamestop who doesn't know much Christory, a weird looking guy comes in and starts messing with your merchandise. You ask him to leave, and he is back a couple weeks later. You ask him to leave again and he maces one of your employees. It's easy to conclude he is a potentially unstable menace and you can't have him around.

From Chris perspective I think it went something like this.

Chris wrote a bunch of letters after the Gamestop incident trying to clear things up. He made some attempts at apology, and definitely tried to put the incident to bed and get himself reinstated as a welcome customer.

I actually think he has a good sense he fucked up during the December 26 incident. Proobably not as much as of a sense as he should, but he knows he isn't blameless for that. But he also has the formula "I apologize, you forgive me" permanently ingrained in his psyche. So if he apologized, and they not only didn't forgive him, but continued to ban him and brought further charges against him when he came back, he thinks they violated the rules of society in a way that victimized him.

Yeah, Chris thinks apologies are hugely valuable currency when he offers one. That’s probably cuz he has a lot of difficulty with accepting when he’s wrong. Plus you can accuse someone of rudeness when they don’t accept your apology, so that blame shift is a huge motivator to apologize. For instance, if Chris apologizes to the store manager and they don’t forgive him free and clear, then they’re now the guilty party who dared to rudely ignore a sincere apology. He pulled the same shit with Mary Lee Walsh.
 
The Gamestop probably makes the most sense. Given that he was just charged with trespassing, it seems like he probably didn't do too much beyond just being some place he shouldn't. And the general procedure of a place that bans someone is to ask them to leave and then to forget about it if he goes quietly and doesn't come back for a while. It's just not worth the effort to follow-up with police and the court system to make sure some weirdo who didn't cause you or your store much harm gets a slap on the wrist.

But Gamestop is an exception. If you take it from the perspective of someone working at Gamestop who doesn't know much Christory, a weird looking guy comes in and starts messing with your merchandise. You ask him to leave, and he is back a couple weeks later. You ask him to leave again and he maces one of your employees. It's easy to conclude he is a potentially unstable menace and you can't have him around.

From Chris perspective I think it went something like this.

Chris wrote a bunch of letters after the Gamestop incident trying to clear things up. He made some attempts at apology, and definitely tried to put the incident to bed and get himself reinstated as a welcome customer.

I actually think he has a good sense he fucked up during the December 26 incident. Proobably not as much as of a sense as he should, but he knows he isn't blameless for that. But he also has the formula "I apologize, you forgive me" permanently ingrained in his psyche. So if he apologized, and they not only didn't forgive him, but continued to ban him and brought further charges against him when he came back, he thinks they violated the rules of society in a way that victimized him.
I wonder if being asked not to return to EOG was a catalyst for this event. He might have thought he had nothing to lose and wanted to relive some sweet nostalgia buy roughing up some displays or by hanging around young people that think he's ugly.
 
I'm sure he didn't expect someone to still remember him at all there. I bet the GameStop location has his face placed on a xeroxed noticed in the break room reminding people never to serve him permanently.
I'll admit that I stopped at the Fashion Square Mall last year for lunch and while walking to the food court I saw the Gamestop where Chris had maced that one employee. I'll even further admit that I went inside and looked around and then asked the employee behind the counter about Starwars Battlefront 2. While we were talking I casually asked the man if he was aware of an incident back in 2014 or so where a man in drag maced an employee after being caught defacing a display. The man said he had heard nothing about it and I even showed him the video of Chris in action and the man was surprised that that had happened there. I think that incident is largely forgotten by the current store employees and probably long time mall operations employees are the only one's who remember Chris.
 
Yeah, Chris thinks apologies are hugely valuable currency when he offers one. That’s probably cuz he has a lot of difficulty with accepting when he’s wrong. Plus you can accuse someone of rudeness when they don’t accept your apology, so that blame shift is a huge motivator to apologize. For instance, if Chris apologizes to the store manager and they don’t forgive him free and clear, then they’re now the guilty party who dared to rudely ignore a sincere apology. He pulled the same shit with Mary Lee Walsh.

Nah, nah - you got it all backwards! CWC isn't apologizing to them and expecting them to accept said apology and make things right; CWC is forgiving them and is offering them the peaceful contract to sign as proof of their acknowledging his forgiveness and, by signing the contract, are agreeing to make amends for treating him so unjustly in the first place by lifting the ban, with the promise they'll take no further action against him should he act out again.
 
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Probably because he's convinced himself that he would only count as a trap if he was looking for a male lover and not a boyfriend free girl. Because, in CWC's warped reality, lesbians are totally keen on dating trans women; especially if she still has a dick; because, all women - no matter what their sexual preference - crave the D (why would they use dildos if they didn't?)!

And CWC is just the whole irresistible enchilada - what with him oozing femininity and sporting that 'damned 7 incher!' that women will readily drop their panties for. What woman could possibly resist him?

*hurk!*
Chris would probally consider himself the perfect woman for lesbians if it wasn’t for the stark reality of them not wanting to date or have sex with him which he can’t make up excuses for in his head.
 
Chris would probally consider himself the perfect woman for lesbians if it wasn’t for the stark reality of them not wanting to date or have sex with him which he can’t make up excuses for in his head.

Pssh - they're just jealous that he's sexier than they'll ever be. They just can't stand to be that close to so much raw womanly sensuality.

...excuse me...*hurk!*
 
I think that incident is largely forgotten by the current store employees and probably long time mall operations employees are the only one's who remember Chris.
Thats probably it. I mean its mall security's job to protect not only customers but the people who rent stores there. Mall security has to be on the ball with this or they could lose renters or get slapped with a lawsuit if something serious happens.

Chris is probably conflating mall security with Gamestop and when he says "late" that probably means he was already in the store when he got told to leave.
 
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I'll admit that I stopped at the Fashion Square Mall last year for lunch and while walking to the food court I saw the Gamestop where Chris had maced that one employee. I'll even further admit that I went inside and looked around and then asked the employee behind the counter about Starwars Battlefront 2. While we were talking I casually asked the man if he was aware of an incident back in 2014 or so where a man in drag maced an employee after being caught defacing a display. The man said he had heard nothing about it and I even showed him the video of Chris in action and the man was surprised that that had happened there. I think that incident is largely forgotten by the current store employees and probably long time mall operations employees are the only one's who remember Chris.
Hmm, that's interesting and a little surprising. I would have thought that would be the sort of thing that would be handed down by employees shooting the shit. Every place I have ever worked has always had legends about the funny and interesting things that have happened there, even if they aren't particularly exciting to an outsider.

It still seems possible that if Chris wandered in and an employee who was working the time of the previous incident was working, the employee might say "oh no, we can't have this bullshit again." Although the more time passes, the less the chance of that happening there is.


Nah, nah - you got it all backwards! CWC isn't apologizing to them and expecting them to accept said apology and make things right; CWC is forgiving them and is offering them the peaceful contract to sign as proof of their acknowledging his forgiveness and, by signing the contract, are agreeing to make amends for treating him so unjustly in the first place by lifting the ban, with the promise they'll take no further action against him should he act out again.

Good point on two counts. He goes into it with the attitude that the other person is at least equally in the wrong and equally as eager to apologize, grant concessions, and move on. And he does have a tendency to play both sides of a negotiation, so he lays out not only the apology and concessions he makes but the apology and concessions he feels the other person should make. And then feels like the other person has rejected his apology if they haven't accepted every term of his peace treaty.

And while I said that he thought he messed up the previous time and accepted some blame, I don't claim that that extended to feeling the ban was ever justified. He acknowledges that he shouldn't have maced the guy, but he thinks the ban in response to it was a huge overreaction. Which then makes the aggrieved feeling a lot stronger than the guilt.

It's kind of like if you bump into someone while carelessly walking through a bar and spill their beer, and then they punch you in the face. You might have felt bad about the beer and tried to make reasonable amends, but as soon as they punch you, you see them as completely in the wrong, and beyond maybe acknowledging if pressed that you should have been more careful, you feel very little guilt, and a whole lot of anger. For Chris, the macing was the beer spilling, and the ban was the punch in the face.
 
It's kind of like if you bump into someone while carelessly walking through a bar and spill their beer, and then they punch you in the face. You might have felt bad about the beer and tried to make reasonable amends, but as soon as they punch you, you see them as completely in the wrong, and beyond maybe acknowledging if pressed that you should have been more careful, you feel very little guilt, and a whole lot of anger. For Chris, the macing was the beer spilling, and the ban was the punch in the face.

Only difference is that, in CWC's case, he was the aggressor who overreacted to being thrown out/banned from a store after defacing private property and expects the people who banned him to apologize for not letting him do as he pleased.

It's this mentality - the whole 'you should acknowledge I'm special and the rules/laws don't apply to me' - that royally makes me loathe his parents (specifically his mother). They're the ones who taught him this lesson by spoiling him.
 
A GameStop employee not knowing who Chris is kind of shows how irrelevant he is slowly becoming. Being educated on Chris Chan used to be their rites into becoming part of the team. I remember forever ago a guy came into #sonichu and more or less said he worked at the Fashion Square Mall GameStop. I went to the mall (not explicitly for this reason) and ended up talking to the guy and letting him know he needed to be careful because it was definitely during a time of peak weens.

Chris apologizing is along the same lines of a kid apologizing. As kids we grow up learning to apologize and when someone apologizes you forgive them. Of course, as we grow older we learn that no one is obligated to accept your apology, but Chris never learned this. Most likely due to his growing up coddled and everyone forgave him for whatever mishaps he got himself into prior to becoming a legal adult. It also doesn't help that he never learned to SINCERELY apologize. He just learned to say sorry and all is forgotten and forgiven so he never actually had to face consequences.
 
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