Culture World War 1 Memorial to be torn down because shaped like a Cross

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...own-due-to-religious-message-court-rules/amp/

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A 40-foot memorial dubbed the “Peace Cross,” erected in 1925 in honor of 49 men who lost their lives during World War I, must now be torn down, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday.

The memorial, in Bladensburg, Maryland, was created by the American Legion and is shaped like a cross.

“Today’s decision sets dangerous precedent by completely ignoring history, and it threatens removal and destruction of veterans memorials across America,” First Liberty Institute attorney Hiram Sasser said, according to Fox News.

“This memorial has stood in honor of local veterans for almost 100 years and is lawful under the First Amendment. To remove it would be a tremendous dishonor to the local men who gave their lives during The Great War,” Jones Day attorney Michael Carvin said. First Liberty Institute and the Jones Day law firm are representing the American Legion in this legal battle.

In 2014, the American Humanist Association filed a lawsuit contending that the cross-shaped memorial is unconstitutional.

The group’s foundation believes in “being good without a god.” In their lawsuit, they asked for the memorial to be demolished, altered or removed.

The association claimed the memorial sends “an inherently religious message and creates the unmistakable appearance of honoring only Christian servicemen,” Fox reported.

The Fourth Circuit agreed, stating that the memorial tangles the government and religion because the cross is the “core symbol of Christianity” and “breaches” the wall separating church and state.

The American Legion could appeal directly to the Supreme Court.
 
Would it be feasible to hold an auction for the monument and have it transported to the private property of whoever wants to buy it?
 
Can you not make an exception for war memorials? Does simply seeing a cross offend you that badly?
 
So I'm guessing this isn't about anything actually offensive and it's just a scoreboard to them. For people so eager to prove their enlightenment, they sure are primitive as fuck.
 
First, they came for the Civil War statues, and I said "I don't give a shit about the civil war statues"

Then, they came for the WWI statues, and I said, "I don't give a shit about the WWI statues"

Finally, they came for the Anime statues, and there was no one left but me.

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In the days of the French Revolution, leaders went full euphoric and established the "Cult of Reason." One of the things they did (or at least tried to do) was removing religious symbols from France, such as from graveyards.

[something about history repeating]
 
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So...what is the American Humanist Association going to put in it's place if it gets torn down? Y'know to honor all servicemen. Seems pretty cruel to tear something down and not put something up in it's place. Especially if it's a WWI memorial.
 
I hope that there is a way of appealing this travesty of a decision because if this goes forward it sets forth a dangerous precedent to allow for more memorials to be taken down because people don't like them for not very good reasons.

There's a group which has been trying to get crosses removed from the overseas war cemeteries.

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https://www.duffelblog.com/2014/06/atheist-crosses-lawsuit-military-cemetery/

They want stars of David removed, too.

And the kicker

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I'm an atheist and I think it's beyond ridiculous.
 
I really wish these secular groups would wage war on the churches not getting taxed instead of making people hate them for no real gains.



Heh, lets target the Star of David and Crecent tombstones. I wonder how that'd go.
 
Heh, lets target the Star of David and Crecent tombstones. I wonder how that'd go.

Or symbols of Native American spirituality.

Let's knock down all the ancient temples throughout the world while we're at it. And destroy all those religious paintings and sculptures owned by government museums throughout the world.

It's beyond ridiculous and absurd that these people are even being given a hearing, let alone winning the argument.
 
I'm all about separating church and state in every aspect, but this is ridiculous. A war monument's purpose isn't to promote religious beliefs.
 
I'm an atheist and I think it's beyond ridiculous.

As am I, symbols of religion don't annoy me or have any effect on me where I take an issue with any belief is when it extends beyond the personal e.g.

I'm Sorry my Religion / personal Belief says I can't do that - Fine.
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I'm Sorry my Religion / personal Belief says that's offensive so you can't do that at all ever - Bad.

I really wish these secular groups would wage war on the churches not getting taxed instead of making people hate them for no real gains.

The thing is a lot really want to do that but can't because they would get sued into oblivion by parties with a vested interest and there isn't as yet enough public support for them to do it (however in some places that's changing), some don't do it because they have the moral backbone of a Sponge. But that's a totally different kettle of Fish compared to this, this is a memorial to the dead and not something that should be used as a stick to beat others with, those people have died and should be allowed to be memorialised by there Freinds and Family in the way that they decided was fitting.
 
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