💤 Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 1)

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littlebiscuits dijo:
Nick's new podcast for all those interested...

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0GIKajsYGOZ

And yes, he really does say "Aboot" and things like that out loud.
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I'm listening to his podcast now, his speech sounds fairly normal, not disorganized like a schizophrenic. is he just some disturbed attention whore?

Also i know this has been said many times before, but his teeth are fucked up and i thought my teeth were bad.
 
you know this really hurts my brain how does a person like Nick bait, a person like Christian Weston Chandler go throught life. Throughout middle school, high school and not be caught by some counselor or teacher and shown the right way in life. Also it baffles me the neglect in personal hygiene his teeth have to be killing him I mean those are exposed nerve endings for god sakes, he couldn't start brushing his teeth if he wanted to I mean he really couldn't he has to go to the dentist and get all of them riped out. okay I've been rambling and I don't really want to get to all the sick fetishes so let me just say this.

Diagnosis: life fucked.
prescription:heavy therapy, counseling, life coaching.

but I'm no fucking white knight.
 
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Hello, this is Anna. Yes, that Anna. Seriously. I know I cannot prove to you that it is, in fact, me, but please read this regardless. I want to address what happened and give my side of the story, and to address a few bits of misinformation. I do hope this info is of use.

This is gonna be a long post, and I do apologize for that; however, the full story is far too long to condense. Given the length of it, I'll post it under a spoiler.

Nick and I first met on a wiki for a long-forgotten webtoon several years ago. I was, I believe, 13 at the time--possibly 12, but given the timeline, 13 seems a bit more probable, so it almost certainly would have been in 2006 (my birthday is fairly early in the year). We became fast friends, because I was too fucking stupid to see that he was a creepy bastard.

In retrospect, there were a number of red flags that I really wish I had noticed. He was always clingy towards me, and frequently brought up his creepy fetishes. But, again, I didn't really notice. (Gimme a break--I was 13 and stupid.)

We actually became close enough that we would write actual, physical letters to each other. I had--and continue to have--several penpals, and I trusted him enough to give him my mailing address. This was, obviously, a huge mistake. So was exchanging cell phone numbers with him. Say it with me: I WAS 13 AND STUPID.

Now, there's one thing that I must note: I never gave Nick my home phone number or my street address. (The latter is different from my mailing address--my podunk little town runs on the P.O. box system.) This will be important later on.

His behavior didn't truly start scaring me until sometime in 2008. I remember him comforting me after a falling-out with a friend, which occurred about midway through the summer, but I was already starting to get a bit weirded out by the guy at this point. I wish I could remember what the straw that broke the camel's back was, but I really don't. All I know is that at some point, I blocked him on every IM client I used at the time.

For the next few months, I kept my fears secret from my parents, out of (unfounded, thank God) concern that they would blame me for what had happened. I distinctly remember my mom telling me I'd received a letter from him in (I think) October of 2008, and I told her to throw it away, saying he had been a dick and we weren't friends anymore. (Technically true, I suppose, but reductive at best.) However, this cover was blown late in the year--at some point in either late November or December, he called my house.

As I mentioned before, I NEVER gave Nick my home phone number, so I was naturally terrified. Luckily, my mom managed to cover for me, and was able to hang up. He hasn't called back since, as far as I know.

Obviously, the whole story came spilling out then. I'm very, very fortunate that my parents have been loving and supportive throughout this whole trial.

I must admit that I did not completely cut off contact with Nick at first. In fact, my old Twitter shows that I still talked to him up until late August of 2009. (Dumb as fuck of me, I know.) None of what I said to him was pleasant. Here are a few notable tweets from that old account of mine.

Additionally, a (former) friend of mine by the name of Jessa--who I believe has been mentioned in this thread a few times--would try to organize "Anna Therapy", as she called it, in an attempt to make him less obsessed with me. This "therapy" consisted of MSN conversations between the three of us. Needless to say, it did absolutely nothing to help.

Fast-forward a bit, to 2011 and the infamous 789chan thread(s). This was where Maddi entered the picture--she had also been dealing with harrassment from Nick, and, if I recall correctly, may have been the OP of the initial thread. (She and I are actually pretty good friends these days, but that's irrelevant.) I also recall having to get my cell phone number changed roughly around the same time, since Nick would not stop texting me.

Another notable thing about 2011 is that I lost my virginity that year. Nick was insistent that this never actually happened and that I was lying about it. (When I came out as gay about a year and a half later, having realized that I wasn't actually attracted to men, he took that as "proof" that we hadn't "done stuff".) He began threatening to kill my then-boyfriend (who admittedly did egg Nick on a bit, though certainly not enough to earn death threats).

In general, Nick has not approved of any of my life decisions, such as starting college or dating people who aren't him. Hell, I'm pretty sure he didn't even want me to finish high school--I know he viewed dropping out as some sort of achievement, and I'm sure he was unhappy that I did, in fact, graduate.

I should also note that, fortunately, Nick has not attempted to contact me directly for a few years now. This is a small mercy, however, given that--as you all know, of course--he still tweets about me incessantly. I live in genuine fear that someday he'll try to contact me again, or worse, show up outside my house.

And that's the story from my end. I've probably forgotten a few things, but that's the general gist of it.

Now, to clear a few things up and add some extra info:

-I'm not sure where the idea that I was born in Canada came from. I was born in North Carolina and moved to California when I was six, and have never been a long-term resident of any other country, Canada obviously included. It's possible there's some confusion with Jessa there, since she actually is from Canada; however, I seem to recall him having an obsession with the country pretty much since we met.

-Regarding the Amber thing, I'm not sure he ever brought it up with me. (The Anna he was chatting with in the IM log posted in this thread is the other Anna, the one who lives in Britain or something. I don't know much about her, just that she's also named Anna.) However, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that he did indeed molest her. I'm fairly sure he did admit to me that he's a pedophile, and given everything else about him, I've no reason to doubt that.

-Humorously enough, several of the things on Nick's "ideal girlfriend" list don't apply to me. I have several piercings and a tattoo with plans for more of both, I'm an agnostic deist rather than a Christian (though I was raised Anglo-Catholic), I'm actually a bit flinchy about physical contact and thus wouldn't call myself a "hug monster", I have a vagina, I'm not into poop, and I'm not a virgin. The one that strikes me as odd is the "not a vegetarian" thing, though. I was actually raised vegetarian, and remained so until I was around 17. I guess that just proves how little he cares about me as a person, that he doesn't know that.

-I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but Bate isn't his real last name--his full name is Nickalaus Stoutzenberger. (Yes, really.) He's also been using "Nick Nickel" as an alias lately, as shown on his Twitter--Nickel being my last name.

-Any references to someone named "Jo" on his Twitter are of special note. My given name is Johanna, though I've gone exclusively by Anna since before meeting Nick. Jo was a childhood nickname, and for some time he used that on his Twitter to refer to me, apparently as an incredibly shitty attempt at obfuscating who he was truly referring to.

-My family and I did attempt to get the authorities involved--several times, in fact. However, the sheriff dismissed our concerns entirely, and the DA was unable to do much given the fact that Nick lives in another state.

All in all, Nick is a terrible excuse for a human being. He's an abusive, manipulative borderline sociopath with no regard for other people, he's quite likely delusional (I say "quite likely" because it's entirely possible he doesn't believe a word he says about fate and God and all that), and he's disgusting on every possible level. I truly hope he gets locked up, and frankly I won't feel entirely safe in the world unless and until he does.

Thanks for reading. I hope I was able to shed some light on the situation.
 
It's okay. Someday someone will complain that the smell coming from his place is even worse than usual and they'll find him dead on the bathroom floor, most likely due to massive infection from an untreated cut covered in scat.
 
Ancani dijo:
Hello, this is Anna. Yes, that Anna. Seriously. I know I cannot prove to you that it is, in fact, me, but please read this regardless. I want to address what happened and give my side of the story, and to address a few bits of misinformation. I do hope this info is of use.

This is gonna be a long post, and I do apologize for that; however, the full story is far too long to condense. Given the length of it, I'll post it under a spoiler.

Nick and I first met on a wiki for a long-forgotten webtoon several years ago. I was, I believe, 13 at the time--possibly 12, but given the timeline, 13 seems a bit more probable, so it almost certainly would have been in 2006 (my birthday is fairly early in the year). We became fast friends, because I was too fucking stupid to see that he was a creepy bastard.

In retrospect, there were a number of red flags that I really wish I had noticed. He was always clingy towards me, and frequently brought up his creepy fetishes. But, again, I didn't really notice. (Gimme a break--I was 13 and stupid.)

We actually became close enough that we would write actual, physical letters to each other. I had--and continue to have--several penpals, and I trusted him enough to give him my mailing address. This was, obviously, a huge mistake. So was exchanging cell phone numbers with him. Say it with me: I WAS 13 AND STUPID.

Now, there's one thing that I must note: I never gave Nick my home phone number or my street address. (The latter is different from my mailing address--my podunk little town runs on the P.O. box system.) This will be important later on.

His behavior didn't truly start scaring me until sometime in 2008. I remember him comforting me after a falling-out with a friend, which occurred about midway through the summer, but I was already starting to get a bit weirded out by the guy at this point. I wish I could remember what the straw that broke the camel's back was, but I really don't. All I know is that at some point, I blocked him on every IM client I used at the time.

For the next few months, I kept my fears secret from my parents, out of (unfounded, thank God) concern that they would blame me for what had happened. I distinctly remember my mom telling me I'd received a letter from him in (I think) October of 2008, and I told her to throw it away, saying he had been a dick and we weren't friends anymore. (Technically true, I suppose, but reductive at best.) However, this cover was blown late in the year--at some point in either late November or December, he called my house.

As I mentioned before, I NEVER gave Nick my home phone number, so I was naturally terrified. Luckily, my mom managed to cover for me, and was able to hang up. He hasn't called back since, as far as I know.

Obviously, the whole story came spilling out then. I'm very, very fortunate that my parents have been loving and supportive throughout this whole trial.

I must admit that I did not completely cut off contact with Nick at first. In fact, my old Twitter shows that I still talked to him up until late August of 2009. (Dumb as fuck of me, I know.) None of what I said to him was pleasant. Here are a few notable tweets from that old account of mine.

Additionally, a (former) friend of mine by the name of Jessa--who I believe has been mentioned in this thread a few times--would try to organize "Anna Therapy", as she called it, in an attempt to make him less obsessed with me. This "therapy" consisted of MSN conversations between the three of us. Needless to say, it did absolutely nothing to help.

Fast-forward a bit, to 2011 and the infamous 789chan thread(s). This was where Maddi entered the picture--she had also been dealing with harrassment from Nick, and, if I recall correctly, may have been the OP of the initial thread. (She and I are actually pretty good friends these days, but that's irrelevant.) I also recall having to get my cell phone number changed roughly around the same time, since Nick would not stop texting me.

Another notable thing about 2011 is that I lost my virginity that year. Nick was insistent that this never actually happened and that I was lying about it. (When I came out as gay about a year and a half later, having realized that I wasn't actually attracted to men, he took that as "proof" that we hadn't "done stuff".) He began threatening to kill my then-boyfriend (who admittedly did egg Nick on a bit, though certainly not enough to earn death threats).

In general, Nick has not approved of any of my life decisions, such as starting college or dating people who aren't him. Hell, I'm pretty sure he didn't even want me to finish high school--I know he viewed dropping out as some sort of achievement, and I'm sure he was unhappy that I did, in fact, graduate.

I should also note that, fortunately, Nick has not attempted to contact me directly for a few years now. This is a small mercy, however, given that--as you all know, of course--he still tweets about me incessantly. I live in genuine fear that someday he'll try to contact me again, or worse, show up outside my house.

And that's the story from my end. I've probably forgotten a few things, but that's the general gist of it.

Now, to clear a few things up and add some extra info:

-I'm not sure where the idea that I was born in Canada came from. I was born in North Carolina and moved to California when I was six, and have never been a long-term resident of any other country, Canada obviously included. It's possible there's some confusion with Jessa there, since she actually is from Canada; however, I seem to recall him having an obsession with the country pretty much since we met.

-Regarding the Amber thing, I'm not sure he ever brought it up with me. (The Anna he was chatting with in the IM log posted in this thread is the other Anna, the one who lives in Britain or something. I don't know much about her, just that she's also named Anna.) However, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that he did indeed molest her. I'm fairly sure he did admit to me that he's a pedophile, and given everything else about him, I've no reason to doubt that.

-Humorously enough, several of the things on Nick's "ideal girlfriend" list don't apply to me. I have several piercings and a tattoo with plans for more of both, I'm an agnostic deist rather than a Christian (though I was raised Anglo-Catholic), I'm actually a bit flinchy about physical contact and thus wouldn't call myself a "hug monster", I have a vagina, I'm not into poop, and I'm not a virgin. The one that strikes me as odd is the "not a vegetarian" thing, though. I was actually raised vegetarian, and remained so until I was around 17. I guess that just proves how little he cares about me as a person, that he doesn't know that.

-I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but Bate isn't his real last name--his full name is Nickalaus Stoutzenberger. (Yes, really.) He's also been using "Nick Nickel" as an alias lately, as shown on his Twitter--Nickel being my last name.

-Any references to someone named "Jo" on his Twitter are of special note. My given name is Johanna, though I've gone exclusively by Anna since before meeting Nick. Jo was a childhood nickname, and for some time he used that on his Twitter to refer to me, apparently as an incredibly shitty attempt at obfuscating who he was truly referring to.

-My family and I did attempt to get the authorities involved--several times, in fact. However, the sheriff dismissed our concerns entirely, and the DA was unable to do much given the fact that Nick lives in another state.

All in all, Nick is a terrible excuse for a human being. He's an abusive, manipulative borderline sociopath with no regard for other people, he's quite likely delusional (I say "quite likely" because it's entirely possible he doesn't believe a word he says about fate and God and all that), and he's disgusting on every possible level. I truly hope he gets locked up, and frankly I won't feel entirely safe in the world unless and until he does.

Thanks for reading. I hope I was able to shed some light on the situation.
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Did he ever actually harm his sister?
 
Surtur dijo:
Did he ever actually harm his sister?
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I wish I could say I knew for certain. I also wish I could say I doubt that he did.

Unfortunately, given what I've seen and heard, in addition to my personal experience, I'd be surprised if he hadn't. I don't think he was "joking"--I think he admitted to an actual crime and only backtracked once people threatened to report him to the cops. I will admit that's all conjecture on my part, though.

One of the other issues, which I forgot to mention in the post (see, this is why you don't write out things like this at 2:30 in the morning!), is that his family is, by all accounts, genuinely awful. Not to the same degree as him, and not necessarily in the same way, but none of what I've been told by non-Nick people who have, in some way, been involved in the whole mess paints them as even remotely decent people themselves. As much as Nick bitches about them taking his stuff away, they've never really made much attempt to get him to work on his piss-poor mental health. (Or his hygiene, for that matter.) As such, I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if they didn't do a whole lot about Amber, either. I do recall that at one point his family told him he couldn't be around her alone anymore, which itself raises a shitton of red flags, but that seems to have been a temporary thing.

He also admits to having watched his sister taking a shit, and that he masturbated to it. As far as I know, he hasn't retracted that statement.

It seems like a super dysfunctional environment in general, and Nick isn't doing the poor kid any favors.

And to those of you who called me strong: thank you. I do suppose cutting ties with an abuser of any sort takes some degree of strength. :)
 
Welcome to the forums. Any particular reason you decided to step forward and talk about this now? (not that we're complaining, the moar info the better)
 
Well, it's always interesting to see the unfortunate victims of a thread topic show up, and almost always incredibly enlightening. So, first off, I want to say thank you very much for the information on Nick (disturbing though it may be), and secondly I'll go ahead and echo the others who cheer your strength to get the hell away from him.

Also, I feel like I've seen your avatar before. Where's it from, if I may ask?
 
Dynastia: I actually found this thread several months back, and intended to respond then; however, the forum wouldn't let me post, for whatever reason. I'm guessing it was some sort of system glitch but I can't say for sure. In any case, I rediscovered the thread last night (well, early this morning, if you wanna be pedantic) while looking for some relatively concise info on Nick for a concerned friend. I noticed both times I read the thread that there was the occasional bit of misinformation and a fair bit of confusion on what did and didn't happen (which, given the circumstances and Nick's penchant for both making shit up and retracting earlier statements, is absolutely understandable), so I felt that I should set the record straight on a few things, as well as provide my side of the story, since I've been considerably less public about the exact details than he has.

I doubt I'll stick around on the forums much outside of this thread--it doesn't seem like my kind of place, I'm afraid. Nothing against this place, it's just not the kind of atmosphere I tend to enjoy hanging around in. So aside from posting in this thread, I'll probably just lurk. :P

The Mountain: Thank you! (Actually, thanks to most all of you who've posted in this thread--it's always nice to see people agreeing with me on anything, even when that thing happens to be an absolute, objective fact, such as Nick being disgusting as hell.) I'm very glad I could provide some insight, and my only wish is that I remembered things more clearly. I can do some digging around my old LiveJournal (due to Nick using the comments section as a vehicle for harassment, it's almost entirely friends-only, but I can provide screenshots of relevant posts) and Twitter (which I think is still public--it's @gleefulcynic--but also extremely embarrassing because I was a little shit and I hate my past self a lot), if anyone thinks this thread would benefit from some comparatively clearer accounts of things that happened.

As for the avatar, you most likely have seen it before, or at least something from the same source. It's from an infamously bad lesbian porn webcomic called Moon Over June, which has gained some notoriety for featuring, among many other things, absolutely ridiculous facial expressions. The one in my avatar is actually a pretty mild offender in that regard. It also features incredible amounts of stereotyping (despite being ostensibly written by an actual lesbian, though there is a decent amount of debate as to whether the author is actually female--she's disclosed next to nothing about herself, and there's a fair bit of evidence both ways), including misandry taken to a ludicrous extreme by a character who is intended to be sympathetic, all the lesbians in the comic (read: most of the cast) being portrayed as perpetually horny and utterly indiscriminate in their choices of sexual partners, and an apparent lack of romantic attraction on anyone's part. It's actually kind of worth reading, if only because of how over-the-top ridiculous the whole thing is.
 
Welcome to the forums Anna, I was wondering if I could ask you a couple questions:

#1. When/how did Nick decide that it was fated for you to be his wife?
#2. Do you have any chatlogs/emails from him?
#3. Can you shed some more information on his family life? All we are getting is that his Dad is some loser who smoked weed with him when he was 12 and that his mom and Joyce think if they pray enough Nick will stop being a freak rather than seek mental health.
#4. Did he ever threaten you?
 
Ancani dijo:
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Welcome to the forums, Anna. Thanks for posting your hair-raising story about Nick. I know several people who've been obsessively stalked, and it's a terrifying experience -- more so, I suppose, when the stalker is as obviously unhinged and depraved as Mr. Bate.

Looking forward to hearing more of your commentary about this...singular individual.
 
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