The mental illness epidemic - Why is everyone losing their minds?

[Nazi vegeta]

I'm not some anprim fag who hates science and modern medicine. I get vaccinated and am not scared of GMOs, I think organic food is a waste. I don't hate technology I just think accessibility and sustainability in it's design shouldn't be considered special interests, it should be standard. I'm just an animist and polytheist. Call me Pagan if you will but I don't see myself as a hippie. I think the mental health issues of society are caused partially due to our separation from nature and abandoning the ways of our ancestors for imperialist Semitic religions. This is just my personal perspective on why mental illness could be more common today from a religious angle.

There are also more practical issues surrounding this problem that other Kiwis have commented on. I think free access to psychotherapy and medication would go a long way so at least people have no financial excuse to remain sick. It was shortsighted to close down all these institutions for the mentally ill and then privatize most of the therapy and drugs, making it less accessible especially for maladjusted lower income mentally ill people like the homeless you see that need it to help regain perspective on reality and ultimately better their lives. Campaigns to combat stigma are essential in my view and it's sad Tumblr has appropriated this and twisted it into an excuse to glorify mental illness and treat it as an identity rather than an illness.

I was just talking shit. I actually agree with most of your points.
But I don't know how much psychotherapy can actually help people, unless we are talking about people with severe depression or schzophrenia or other serious stuff.
the majority of people, especially young ones who say that they are depressed, In my opinion at least, are just lacking guidance. Someone to look up to, someone who can show them the ropes.
that's why people like jordan peterson do manage to have a cult following, by saying the most basic shit.

And also the disgregation of the family. A lot of parents are very bad at parenting, single motherhood, divorces etc. All of this can have destabilizing effects on a youth's psyche.

 

[El Garbage]

People have always been crazy, back in the day they just didn't get diagnosed, and couldn't sperg about it on the internet.

 

[AtrocityVoyeur]

Individualism itself is a horrific pathology, this inescapable notion that anxieties and sorrows originate in the self and have to be treated in the self. Even the concept of a discrete emotional episode, that begins with how you react to what you think or perceive, and ends with feeling a certain (usually awful) way, puts you halfway down the slope to pathology. If there was a way to crawl up the slope back towards communal emotions, communal triumphs, we'd potentially see an alleviation of these self-caged sufferings. But we all know how the last attempts at going back up the slope ended. You can't put that fucking genie back in the lamp.

 

[Medicated]

People have always been crazy, back in the day they just didn't get diagnosed, and couldn't sperg about it on the internet.

I agree to a point. But I wonder at what point how much deviation from the "norm" is considered mentally illness. Maybe someone is miserable because shock horror; their life is miserable, their environment is miserable, the people around them are strangers, their prospects for the future are grim. Maybe being miserable is a natural response to things being soul crushing. But it's okay PharmaTech have you covered!

 

[ToroidalBoat]

People have always been crazy[...]

Maybe, but the amount of insane behavior is definitely on the rise. Like school shootings being pretty much a modern issue -- even though firearms have been around for centuries.

 

[Hui]

Hm? Shootings happen all the time just like not in big numbers. Think drive by's and stuff like that.

 

[El Garbage]

Maybe, but the amount of insane behavior is definitely on the rise. Like school shootings being pretty much a modern issue -- even though firearms have been around for centuries.

You might be right. It could also be cultural change, people feel more "victimized by society" instead of just hating individuals - in the past they murdered That One Guy, but now they go on a killing spree. Of course schools were also much different in the past, and the violent autists probably never attended them.

I blame the media also. You get instant worldwide fame for shooting up a school, it's probably the easiest way to feel like you're achieving something.

Or maybe people are just getting crazier.

 

[Absolutego]

Maybe, but the amount of insane behavior is definitely on the rise. Like school shootings being pretty much a modern issue -- even though firearms have been around for centuries.

I 100% believe the Media (particularly 24/7 news channels) are responsible for the rise of mass shootings. Gun violence overall is on the decline, and has been since the 1990's. The only kind of gun violence that's increasing is well-publicized mass shootings, and media coverage of those shootings has been increasingly irresponsible as profits go down and sensationalism takes an ever greater role in determining what gets covered.

This video is critiquing the BBC for their coverage, it's even worse with American channels:

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

Does the media itself need to be reformed? LIke, install standards like we don't fucking create panics for the purpose of sensationalism. Has anyone in the news media ever stood up and taken some responsibility in their role?

 

[chocolate honky]

Prescribed psychotropics, cell towers, GMO's affecting over all health. Societal pressure through the manufactured inequality to achieve financial stability, just to name a few causes. Also it seems that the official narratives following these violent incidences are mottled with holes............so who really knows?

 

[AnOminous]

There are also "communities" that are basically contagious, self-reinforcing mental illness. Look at antivaxers, tumblr troons, Pizzagate, and other shit like this. Previously if you were some nut who believed some specific utterly crazy shit, everyone around you would tell you no, that's fucked up, knock that shit off. Now you can lock yourself in a shed full of guns and tin foil hats and find some community where everyone agrees with you, no matter how fucked up your shit.

 

[chocolate honky]

It's a mad mad world because a man in a room full of crazies is himself crazy. A tin foil shed will do just fine.

 

[Medicated]

Does the media itself need to be reformed? LIke, install standards like we don't fucking create panics for the purpose of sensationalism. Has anyone in the news media ever stood up and taken some responsibility in their role?

Media companies are corporations, driven by profit. If by some miracle they are able to get some hard standards passed in government. (And you know the media companies would spend billions to stop that from happening). Then as time draws on the same media companies will gradually wear away those protections by lobbying the government. Not because they hate society, but because they simply see it as a chokepoint for profiteering.

 

[Bassomatic]

There are also "communities" that are basically contagious, self-reinforcing mental illness. Look at antivaxers, tumblr troons, Pizzagate, and other shit like this. Previously if you were some nut who believed some specific utterly crazy shit, everyone around you would tell you no, that's fucked up, knock that shit off. Now you can lock yourself in a shed full of guns and tin foil hats and find some community where everyone agrees with you, no matter how fucked up your shit.

That's always been a thing though, it's just easier to get.

Frankly, it's a mixed blessing as it's also easier to debunk and provides us with so much milk.

Let's take something comically dumb like, scientology. How can I disprove it? The same 2 clicks as it takes to defend it.

 

[AnOminous]

That's always been a thing though, it's just easier to get.

Frankly, it's a mixed blessing as it's also easier to debunk and provides us with so much tard cum.

Let's take something comically dumb like, scientology. How can I disprove it? The same 2 clicks as it takes to defend it.

Previously you actually had to join a cult to get a group like this, and it wouldn't be specially tailored exactly for people like you, because there are only so many cults. Now nearly anything can spawn an accidental, leaderless cult that develops quite often without anyone intentionally doing anything to create it. It's just a lunatic aggregator that then captures more loons and amplifies their lunacy.

 

[Plaguemine]

What in fuck from recent memory can you take some form of social collective pride in? The new McDonalds self serve screens?

Yeah nothing makes me want to give up my money more than having to build my own order myself. Next it will be a self serve location where you make the burger yourself too while still paying McD for the experience.


-Anyway I looked into forms of depression and mental illnesses for shit n giggles and found that if you were to break a kid down emotionally/mentally whatever. By the age of 5-6. The DNA of that child actually changes, normally it becomes less emotional over time. Do that over hundreds of years of wars, beatings, abandonment what have you. And it can create some nasty adults.
-It also can be food. Chemicals can mess people up anything from too much hidden sugar to actual toxins.
-Studies have shown that living conditions can mess people up too. Example cities with no trees. A town in the EU if i remember right, installed blue lights for christmas. They ment to be purple. But realized that in that area there was 10% less crime after the instillation. So theres another example of living conditions/environment too.

 

[waffle]

Life is too safe, and we don't weed enough kids out. Even 50 years ago your chances of getting killed as kid by doing something retarded was way higher, and your chances of getting murdered for being a shit-heel were also way higher. As a result we have a bunch of retards and shit-heels who would have been dead not very long ago, running around acting a fool.

Also, kids are too supervised and don't get to work anything out on their own, this is kind of the "is bullying good" thread again, but it's related. Letting kids just be kids and interact is how they learn about life.

As a result of the confluences of these forces we have a bunch of kids who at 15 have already passed their expiration date and have zero life skills. Our solution is to give them a shit load of prescription drugs and that'll fix it all, some how.

 

[Bum Driller]

I would sum it up to two factors; the speed of technological development and the erosion of collective culture. While I personally think that the collective mainstream cultures we had in the past weren't to my liking, it seems that most people would benefit from having a system that kind of forces them to a certain collective identity. On the other hand, we have the amazing leap of technological progress that's been going on for the last 80+ years, and which has accelerated all the time. World simply changes nowadays at so great pace that most of the people have hard time catching up with it.

 

[Trilby]

Kids became smartphone addicts and got depressed from the lack of social interaction. The internet too has also been an enabler of mental illness, now any nutcase with a laptop and camera, or even just a smartphone can feel like they're on TV and in front of the world, and will do stupid shit for attention.

And then you have tech companies who just like big pharma don't see the consequences of their bad choices, and only see more dollar signs. Smartwatches and "smart speakers" are a thing now and furthermore you have car companies trying to shove as many internet connected tech in cars as possible, despite you know hackers showing that that is in fact a terrible idea.

Why I fear the future.

No natural predators, fucked up genetics becoming more prevalent, etc...

I suppose that's what happens when you're top o' the heap.

Obsession with identity politics* + pollution and poisons everywhere + stressful lifestyles + internet and smartphone addiction?

Also lack of adequate mental care like others said.

*(it's hard to enjoy life when "problematic" is everywhere)

Ironically I don't even think about "that" at all. Of course I don't find identify politics that interesting anyway, we're supposed to be equal, yet this is the shit people do.

I would sum it up to two factors; the speed of technological development and the erosion of collective culture. While I personally think that the collective mainstream cultures we had in the past weren't to my liking, it seems that most people would benefit from having a system that kind of forces them to a certain collective identity. On the other hand, we have the amazing leap of technological progress that's been going on for the last 80+ years, and which has accelerated all the time. World simply changes nowadays at so great pace that most of the people have hard time catching up with it.

That's really how I feel on the matter. I certainly saw that type of collective culture via my parents, grandparents and relatives, how we treat others, the people we know in our everyday life (like the "Family Doctor") and the world around us. It's not like that anymore. Nobody really knows each other (aside from secrets or rumors).

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Ever hear of the rodent utopia experiments?