What do you think about Ukraine?

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My instructor for algebra and political science was from the Ukraine, she was among one of the first women to get a college education when Ukraine got its independence from the Soviets, and she went on to get a doctorate.

She was pretty cool, but she has a weak immune system because of Chernobyl, so she was often out sick.
 
Being very honest; Ukraine is very beautiful. The people, country side and even buildings.
Sure like a lot of countries it has so many problem with corruption and the people not having any dreams to live by.
But I think it really is quite a wonderful little place
 
Independent Ukraine had enormous possibilities for development, but shitty leadership screwed the country over. A country with sea access, natural resources, industrial capabilities and lots of potential tourist sites has long fallen behind Belarus in GDP per capita.
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Also, everything that happened in 2014 was a fucking disgrace. Everyone involved showed their worst side.
Ukrainian nationalists cheered on the deaths of their own fellow citizens in Donetsk and Lugansk, while the brave Ukrainian Armed Forces recklessly bombed civilians they were supposedly liberating from terrorists. I should note the Ukrainian airstrike on the regional administration building in Lugansk - Ukrainian Internet made up incredibly shitty excuses like "Separatists have fired an anti-air missile into the air conditioner" and cackled about the civilian deaths. Ukraine's "patriots" made absolutely disgusting reactions to a NSFL video of a woman who was literally torn apart by a Ukrainian rocket - they laughed about how that "female kolorad" (самка колорада) deserved it.

And now about Russian irredentists from DNR/LNR and their backers from the Russian Federation, oh boy. Firing a Buk SAM at the very first blip on the radar and shooting down a fucking civilian airliner was spectacularly dumb. Trying to cover their own ass with exceptionally unconvincing conspiracy theories (Americans sent a decoy planes with corpses! Ukrainians tried to shoot down Putin's personal plane! Ukrainians shot down MH17 with a Su-25 ground attack aircraft! Etc.) was even dumber. And it goes on and on. Trying to "retaliate" against Ukrainian rocket artillery attacks on civilian areas by firing rocket artillery on civilian areas (Mariupol, Kramatorsk, etc.) Firing said rocket artillery from positions meters away from their own civilian areas. Producing stupid propaganda like "Ukrainian Nazis have crucified a Russian boy in Slavyansk's central square", and so on and so forth.
I used to root for those guys back then, and I'm very much ashamed of it.

I especially despise the Russian nationalist nutjobs who stirred the flames of the conflict. They devastated the whole region, tore apart countless families in the resulting information war, threw away the lives of innocents to the dogs - all in the name of imperialist delusions of their country's "destiny" to fight off the Western liberal homosexual tide, or whatever.
Russia shall sleep well while Russian warriors defend her to the last resident of Donbass.

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Guardian G.I. dijo:
Independent Ukraine had enormous possibilities for development, but shitty leadership screwed the country over. A country with sea access, natural resources, industrial capabilities and lots of potential tourist sites has long fallen behind Belarus in GDP per capita.
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Wasn't talking GDP it was a refernce to Lukashenko and I agree that the Ukraine government have shot themselves in the foot.
 
Kari Kamiya dijo:
My instructor for algebra and political science was from the Ukraine, she was among one of the first women to get a college education when Ukraine got its independence from the Soviets, and she went on to get a doctorate.

She was pretty cool, but she has a weak immune system because of Chernobyl, so she was often out sick.
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WTF? Ukrainian women were going to college in huge numbers from the 1920s on.

Edit: proportionately I mean. Obviously as a whole they were poor and disliked by the leadership for their nationalism and religiosity.
 
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WTF? Ukrainian women were going to college in huge numbers from the 1920s on.
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Oh yeah? It's been a good several years since I had last seen her and read her profile someone had made to put on the wall at the college, so it might've been that she was one of the first for a doctorate (I'm sure she got it after Ukraine liberated from the Soviet Union), but she had gone in to be a scientist, so maybe that's what it was actually talking about. I never got her age (she looked like she was in her 60s, she might've actually been at least 10 years younger), and she never really talked about when she had gotten her doctorate, so I couldn't do the math in my head. She only really brought up Ukraine in political science when we talked about socialism and communism, and she'd talk about life under the Soviet Union's control. Stalin might've been just before she was born, but she knew full-well of his horrors.

I'm thinking that if I were to have taken the class with her today, she might be scared shitless of the current political climate and we would know about it as she was very open about her political views. That also makes me wonder what the debates would be like in the classroom, my class then was civil about it, but I didn't have any SJW classmates in there, so that's why.
 
Yeah I have no idea what the situation is like now or since the end of communism.

But sixty or seventy years ago, practically every medical school graduate for instance was a woman, whether GP or surgeon. Of course the Ukrainians had it tough in their own way, but equality of the sexes wasn't one of them.

P.S. my grandmother was in the soviet army in Ww2. This was regarded as completely unremarkable.
 
i knew someone in high school that spent the first 12 years or so of his life in Ukraine. he said he got vaccinated as a kid and the vaccination somehow actually got him really sick and he still has food allergies from it. probably the only place where those anti vaxxer fantasies actually happened.
 
According to Risk it's the largest country in Europe
according to Wikipedia it's the largest country in Europe
 
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