Australia passes Same Sex Marriage Bill

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...311a066ae8bfc2#block-5a28e69a83311a066ae8bfc2

In wonderful news Australia has finally passed the marriage equality bill. This was long overdue.

 

[heathercho]

“First, we have three legal/social questions to win: custody rights for gay men and lesbians; the legal right of paedophiles and their young loves; and finally, the sexual rights of children as a whole.”

“And I also have a friend, a paedophile, who is working very hard on making sense out of his relations with boys. Those relations consist of, among other things, a large amount of nurture and support for these boys, a real caring for their welfare and growth.”

“How different then is that gentle, tentative sexuality between parent and child from the love of a paedophile and his/her lover? From all their accounts and from many academic studies (some worse than others), that kind of love, warmth, support and nurture is an important part of the paedophilic relationship.”

“The current paedophilia debate then is crucial to the political processes of the gay movement: paedophiles need our support, and we need to construct the child/adult sex issue on our terms.”

That is your agenda.
"Oh, there is no agenda, you're just being a bigot, don't talk about a slippery slope!"

From the outset, some people, like myself, who opposed this bill - not because we don't want fags to fuck and marry, but because we already knew what "they'd" (the agitators) do. Some people are just not emotionally invested and they can see the truth behind the emotionally manipulative "Love is Love" bullshit.
It's truly embarrassing how pitifully stupid and easily swindled people can be.

When someone's laying out exactly how they're going to fleece you and get away with it - acknowledge you're an easy mark, believe them and run away. Don't sit there and ask "So how can I help you with this?".

 

[Munchingonfish]

I'm just wondering whats the next "progressive" step. It's not like all these groups just break up and go, okay we got it into law, it's over, we'll just let society naturally take it's course.

Didn't happen with Feminism, won't happen here.

What's to be legalized next?

Troonery, pro-pedo propaganda, and demanding laws to restrict dissenting voices.

Basically what's been happening in Canada and the US.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

You really think that is Emu meat? Remember, Australia lost the Emu war. I doubt the Emu Overlords running Australia would sacrifice their own kind. They might be clever enough to pass off something that tastes a bit like chicken off as "Emu", though.

If you develop the shakes from eating that "Emu" jerky, don't say no one ever warned you...

As for the Bill, it is clear that the Emu's are pro gay marriage to keep the population of the Aussies in check. Good for the Emu's!

Emu burgers, like most processed meat in Australia, are more likely than not made from Ibis.

 

[Robotron]

Opinion: We have marriage equality, now we need LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education in schools

Spoiler: Article Text

The results of the same-sex marriage postal survey were clear: Australia voted in favour of equality. The marriage equality bill has passed, and the mandate to deliver inclusive sexuality education in schools is more pressing than ever. LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education should embrace diversity in the classroom, the staff-room and in whole-of-school policies.

LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education reduces negative stereotypes and biases, creating a safer school environment for LGBTQI+ students. When schools adopt inclusive policies across all school curricula (not just sexuality education), all students feel safer.

How many young Australians identify as LGBTQI+?
The acronym stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex and more. Adolescents might not want a specific label, or might not feel safe disclosing their identities or attractions. So, we’re talking about a varied group, and about a lot of our country’s young people.

Around 10% of Australian secondary students are same-sex attracted. A smaller percentage will identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual.

Gender identity is how an individual conceives of themself as male, female, both or neither. Usually, this develops in the pre-school years.

We don’t have good Australian data yet, but a national survey in New Zealand found 1.2% of secondary students identified as transgender.

About 1.7% of children are intersex, which means they are born with physical sex characteristics that don’t fit medical and social norms for female or male bodies. A recent survey suggested intersex adults are more likely to be non-heterosexual.

What does LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education look like?
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation defines “comprehensive sexuality education” as being age-appropriate, culturally relevant, scientifically accurate and non-judgemental and acknowledges diversity. This means it includes information about, and resources relevant to, sexuality and gender diverse students.

Comprehensive sexuality education also addresses values, relationships, consent and pleasure, and provides information about access to relevant health services. It has a positive impact on knowledge, decision-making skills, communication with parents or carers, and use of protection against pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections (STIs) for sexually active students.

Canada and some states in the USA already mandate LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education.

Australia now has a national curriculum on Health and Physical Education that generally adopts these principles.

The problems are insufficient time, training, resources and policy support. This makes it difficult for many of our teachers to cover the range of topics that constitute comprehensive sexuality education for all students. A massive 44% of same-sex attracted Australian young people rated their sex education at school as not useful at all.

What do young people want to know?
A recent survey of 2,000 students in Victoria and South Australia found young people want less repetition of biology and more information about gender diversity, violence in relationships, sexual pleasure, intimacy and love.

I was the medical writer for Dolly Doctor for 23 years before the magazine closed. I found adolescents’ concerns about sex were mostly about changing bodies, feelings of arousal and attraction (including same-sex attraction), and relationships. Adolescents who were thinking about having sex wanted information about consent, communication, how to negotiate various types of sexual experiences, and pleasure.

Research among LGBTQI+ young people found tthey would like specific content about STI patterns in non-heterosexual relationships, how to prevent STIs, information about anatomy and diversity, more information in general about relationships, and where to find relevant resources and services.

Basically, when it comes to sexuality, heterosexual and LGBTQI+ young people are curious about the same things. They want to know about bodies and how they work, emotions (love, pleasure, desire and intimacy), relationships and consent, safety, STIs and how risk varies, contraception, and where to go for help with these things. More than this, they have the right to know.

What should happen now?
The school environment should promote understanding of and respect for sexuality and gender diversity. Policies and programs to address homophobic and transphobic abuse and support the professional development of school staff, are crucial to inclusive sexuality education.

Involving parents in information sessions within schools and listening to their views helps alleviate concerns.

A recent study of 342 Australian parents found the majority support sexuality education in primary school, including information about same-sex attraction. This was because it can be difficult for them to discuss at home, but they believe it’s important for children to learn about.

Respectful classrooms are great places for young people to learn about sexuality and where to go for relevant information. Much better than the sorts of places the internet could take them if they Google. Leaving young people to figure it out themselves because we’re nervous or uncomfortable could result in ill-informed decision-making. It also withholds knowledge that is their right to have. Sexuality education should be empowering and provide young people with the skills to live sexually healthy lives.

Marriage equality has been a long time coming. Let’s treat our sexuality and gender diverse young people with the respect they deserve.

It's never enough, it's always never enough.

 

[Black Waltz]

Opinion: We have marriage equality, now we need LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education in schools

Spoiler: Article Text

The results of the same-sex marriage postal survey were clear: Australia voted in favour of equality. The marriage equality bill has passed, and the mandate to deliver inclusive sexuality education in schools is more pressing than ever. LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education should embrace diversity in the classroom, the staff-room and in whole-of-school policies.

LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education reduces negative stereotypes and biases, creating a safer school environment for LGBTQI+ students. When schools adopt inclusive policies across all school curricula (not just sexuality education), all students feel safer.

How many young Australians identify as LGBTQI+?
The acronym stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex and more. Adolescents might not want a specific label, or might not feel safe disclosing their identities or attractions. So, we’re talking about a varied group, and about a lot of our country’s young people.

Around 10% of Australian secondary students are same-sex attracted. A smaller percentage will identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual.

Gender identity is how an individual conceives of themself as male, female, both or neither. Usually, this develops in the pre-school years.

We don’t have good Australian data yet, but a national survey in New Zealand found 1.2% of secondary students identified as transgender.

About 1.7% of children are intersex, which means they are born with physical sex characteristics that don’t fit medical and social norms for female or male bodies. A recent survey suggested intersex adults are more likely to be non-heterosexual.

What does LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education look like?
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation defines “comprehensive sexuality education” as being age-appropriate, culturally relevant, scientifically accurate and non-judgemental and acknowledges diversity. This means it includes information about, and resources relevant to, sexuality and gender diverse students.

Comprehensive sexuality education also addresses values, relationships, consent and pleasure, and provides information about access to relevant health services. It has a positive impact on knowledge, decision-making skills, communication with parents or carers, and use of protection against pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections (STIs) for sexually active students.

Canada and some states in the USA already mandate LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education.

Australia now has a national curriculum on Health and Physical Education that generally adopts these principles.

The problems are insufficient time, training, resources and policy support. This makes it difficult for many of our teachers to cover the range of topics that constitute comprehensive sexuality education for all students. A massive 44% of same-sex attracted Australian young people rated their sex education at school as not useful at all.

What do young people want to know?
A recent survey of 2,000 students in Victoria and South Australia found young people want less repetition of biology and more information about gender diversity, violence in relationships, sexual pleasure, intimacy and love.

I was the medical writer for Dolly Doctor for 23 years before the magazine closed. I found adolescents’ concerns about sex were mostly about changing bodies, feelings of arousal and attraction (including same-sex attraction), and relationships. Adolescents who were thinking about having sex wanted information about consent, communication, how to negotiate various types of sexual experiences, and pleasure.

Research among LGBTQI+ young people found tthey would like specific content about STI patterns in non-heterosexual relationships, how to prevent STIs, information about anatomy and diversity, more information in general about relationships, and where to find relevant resources and services.

Basically, when it comes to sexuality, heterosexual and LGBTQI+ young people are curious about the same things. They want to know about bodies and how they work, emotions (love, pleasure, desire and intimacy), relationships and consent, safety, STIs and how risk varies, contraception, and where to go for help with these things. More than this, they have the right to know.

What should happen now?
The school environment should promote understanding of and respect for sexuality and gender diversity. Policies and programs to address homophobic and transphobic abuse and support the professional development of school staff, are crucial to inclusive sexuality education.

Involving parents in information sessions within schools and listening to their views helps alleviate concerns.

A recent study of 342 Australian parents found the majority support sexuality education in primary school, including information about same-sex attraction. This was because it can be difficult for them to discuss at home, but they believe it’s important for children to learn about.

Respectful classrooms are great places for young people to learn about sexuality and where to go for relevant information. Much better than the sorts of places the internet could take them if they Google. Leaving young people to figure it out themselves because we’re nervous or uncomfortable could result in ill-informed decision-making. It also withholds knowledge that is their right to have. Sexuality education should be empowering and provide young people with the skills to live sexually healthy lives.

Marriage equality has been a long time coming. Let’s treat our sexuality and gender diverse young people with the respect they deserve.

This shit's the reason why I stopped associating myself with the lgbt community.

 

[polonium]

This shit's the reason why I stopped associating myself with the lgbt community.

Exactly.
There needs to be a clear disassociation between people who are attracted to the same sex, and faggots.

 

[HG 400]

]They might be clever enough to pass off something that tastes a bit like chicken off as "Emu", though. If you develop the shakes from eating that "Emu" jerky, don't say no one ever warned you...

We're Australian, we know perfectly well what human flesh tastes like.

It might be dog meat or something though, I guess.

 

[Medicated]

That is your agenda.
"Oh, there is no agenda, you're just being a bigot, don't talk about a slippery slope!"

From the outset, some people, like myself, who opposed this bill - not because we don't want fags to fuck and marry, but because we already knew what "they'd" (the agitators) do. Some people are just not emotionally invested and they can see the truth behind the emotionally manipulative "Love is Love" bullshit.
It's truly embarrassing how pitifully stupid and easily swindled people can be.

When someone's laying out exactly how they're going to fleece you and get away with it - acknowledge you're an easy mark, believe them and run away. Don't sit there and ask "So how can I help you with this?".

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/c43050a03326ab1fb6a96f5bef796dee

Vulnerable teenagers as young as 14, including some who had suicidal thoughts, were secretly interviewed without parental knowledge about their gender and sexuality by a university research team with links to the Safe Schools program.

The Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society, run out of La Trobe University, went to significant lengths to ensure its interviews with underage participants took place without parental consent when researching its report, From Blues to Rainbows.

The move has been savaged by education expert Kevin Donnelly and sparked questions from leading bioethicists about recruiting young people for research via social media.

Several gay, lesbian and transgender organisations promoted the project by sharing links to surveys on their Facebook and Tumblr pages. It was also promoted via other media, including gay magazines LOTL and the Star Observer, as well as ABC’s Triple J radio station.

Interviews via an online instant messenger platform were often held during the evening so some participants would not be interrupted by parents who did not know about their child’s “gender identity”.

 

[heathercho]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=x_FWDVGHvoM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/c43050a03326ab1fb6a96f5bef796dee

Vulnerable teenagers as young as 14, including some who had suicidal thoughts, were secretly interviewed without parental knowledge about their gender and sexuality by a university research team with links to the Safe Schools program.

The Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society, run out of La Trobe University, went to significant lengths to ensure its interviews with underage participants took place without parental consent when researching its report, From Blues to Rainbows.

The move has been savaged by education expert Kevin Donnelly and sparked questions from leading bioethicists about recruiting young people for research via social media.

Several gay, lesbian and transgender organisations promoted the project by sharing links to surveys on their Facebook and Tumblr pages. It was also promoted via other media, including gay magazines LOTL and the Star Observer, as well as ABC’s Triple J radio station.

Interviews via an online instant messenger platform were often held during the evening so some participants would not be interrupted by parents who did not know about their child’s “gender identity”.

Oh, would you look at that...
>La Trobe University
Who is attached to La Trobe University?

 

[Medicated]

Oh, would you look at that...
>La Trobe University
Who is attached to La Trobe University?

Apparently the Australian Parliment brought it up.

The Member for Dawson told Parliament Professor Dowsett was a "longtime advocate of intergenerational sex, otherwise known as paedophilia".

"He says: 'How different then is the gentle, tentative sexuality between parent and child from the love of a paedophile and his or her lover. That kind of love, warmth and nurture is an important part of the paedophilic relationship'," Mr Christensen told Parliament.

"He argued in that journal that paedophilia should be part of the gay movement, it must be legally recognised and depicts it as a wider sexual liberation.

"I think it would shock many parents to know that a paedophilia advocate was overseeing the organisation that came up with the Safe Schools program.

Professor Dowsett has declined to comment but a statement has been issued by a spokesman from La Trobe University.

"We are appalled that a respected academic has been attacked using parliamentary privilege," the spokesman said.
"This is a blatant attempt to distract attention from the independent endorsement of the highly effective Safe Schools program.
"We stand by the important work of Professor Dowsett and his team."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-...s-safe-schools-program-to-paedophilia/7252476

 

[AnOminous]

"We are appalled that a respected academic has been attacked using parliamentary privilege his own horrifying and appalling words," the spokesman said.

FTFT.

 

[The Valeyard]

Okay, but didn't the MPs representing electorates that voted No also disrespect the will of the people they represent by voting Yes?

EDIT: Here's another article where the "LGBTIQ community" is demanding more.

Marriage equality has passed but there’s more to be done for a fairer society

Spoiler: Article Text

After thirteen years of campaigning, marriage equality is finally a reality.

Marriage equality has consumed both media and activist space for years now, to the point where other issues have largely been pushed off the agenda. The question we should now ask is, what’s next for LGBTIQ people?

Here are some major issues that we should work on:

A reinvigorated debate about gender and sexuality
While the postal survey was a huge success, it also highlighted the nature of queerphobia that exists in our society, where it sits, and what form it still takes. The no campaign in particular whipped up fears about “a slippery slope”, arguing that marriage equality would fundamentally change the way we think about gender and sexuality.

Unfortunately marriage equality advocates often bought into these ideas. Non-monogamous relationship styles were actively rejected by marriage advocates, while the recent debate was largely devoid of any discussion about gender.

It is time the LGBTIQ movement reinvigorate broader debates about gender and sexuality. We should rethink the respectability politics that dominated the marriage equality debate, instead embracing a politics that argues that people should be allowed to express their gender or sexuality as they want, and form whatever sorts of relationships that suit them.

Trans rights
If history has taught us anything, it’s that the next round of attacks from conservatives will be targeted at trans people. Recent attacks on the Safe Schools Coalition for example focused on trans kids, while the passage of marriage equality in the US was followed by the introduction of bathroom bills around the country.

Unfortunately when faced with these attacks, mainstream gay organisations have often been quick to throw trans people under the bus. This has got to stop. We need to have a serious discussion about gender, both within LGBTIQ circles and in our broader society. That means supporting trans people when they come under attack, and fighting for a society that allows people to live and express their gender as they wish.

The forced surgeries and sterilisation of intersex people
Across Australia, medical practitioners routinely conduct surgeries on intersex people, primarily children, that are designed to “normalise” people into gender and sex norms. For example, in 2016, the Family Court allowed for an invasive medical intervention on a five-year-old intersex child called Carla.

Carla, who is genetically male but was born with genitals that “resembled that of a female” underwent surgery to “enhance the appearance of her female genitals.” It is very unlikely that this operation was medically necessary.

Intersex groups have intensified their pressure on this issue in recent years,releasing the joint Darlington Statement earlier this year, which called for the “immediate prohibition as a criminal act of deferrable medical interventions, including surgical and hormonal interventions, that alter the sex characteristics of infants and children without personal consent.” They have been backed up by both the Senate and the Australian Human Rights Commission, but there have been no policy changes.

Intersex advocates are fighting for bodily autonomy. It is a basic human right that is still denied to many people.

Anti-discrimination legislation
Among all the discussion regarding religious freedoms in the marriage equality debate, one thing went largely unnoticed: religious organisations already have wide-ranging exemptions to anti-discrimination legislation. In many states, for example, it remains legal for religious organisations to fire employees based on their sexuality. In Western Australia, the South Baptist College in Waikiki recently fired an employee when they found out he was gay. Religious schools in many states also have the right to deny a student enrolment or to expel them because of their sexuality, potentially forcing kids to stay in the closet throughout their education.

Just as it is not acceptable for secular organisations to discriminate based on gender and sexuality, it should not be acceptable for religious organisations to do the same. The right to expel students is particularly worrying, as it forces already isolated kids to hide their sexuality or gender identity, potentially creating long-term impacts. The right to discriminate is something we should reject, whether from a religious organisation or not.

Fighting for asylum seekers
In the midst of the postal survey, the humanitarian crisis on Manus Island has gotten demonstrably worse. Many of the asylum seekers on both Manus and Nauru are queer, with many of them fleeing oppression based on their sexuality. In response, they have been locked up, continuing to face violence because of their sexuality.

The marriage equality debate was a success for LGBTIQ people giving them the right to live their lives in security and happiness. Yet at the same time, our government denies that right to those seeking asylum in our country. Even as a non-LGBTIQ specific issue, fighting to bring asylum seekers to Australia should therefore be a major priority.

The success of same-sex marriage should give us space to think more about broader issues of both queer and other forms of oppression in our society.

Now it is up to us to work on ways to deal with these forms of oppression. These issues should just be a starting point. Marriage equality is not the end of the road.

 

[heathercho]

Okay, but didn't the MPs representing electorates that voted No also disrespect the will of the people they represent by voting Yes?

Ver archivo adjunto 331171

EDIT: Here's another article where the "LGBTIQ community" is demanding more.

Marriage equality has passed but there’s more to be done for a fairer society

Spoiler: Article Text

After thirteen years of campaigning, marriage equality is finally a reality.

Marriage equality has consumed both media and activist space for years now, to the point where other issues have largely been pushed off the agenda. The question we should now ask is, what’s next for LGBTIQ people?

Here are some major issues that we should work on:

A reinvigorated debate about gender and sexuality
While the postal survey was a huge success, it also highlighted the nature of queerphobia that exists in our society, where it sits, and what form it still takes. The no campaign in particular whipped up fears about “a slippery slope”, arguing that marriage equality would fundamentally change the way we think about gender and sexuality.

Unfortunately marriage equality advocates often bought into these ideas. Non-monogamous relationship styles were actively rejected by marriage advocates, while the recent debate was largely devoid of any discussion about gender.

It is time the LGBTIQ movement reinvigorate broader debates about gender and sexuality. We should rethink the respectability politics that dominated the marriage equality debate, instead embracing a politics that argues that people should be allowed to express their gender or sexuality as they want, and form whatever sorts of relationships that suit them.

Trans rights
If history has taught us anything, it’s that the next round of attacks from conservatives will be targeted at trans people. Recent attacks on the Safe Schools Coalition for example focused on trans kids, while the passage of marriage equality in the US was followed by the introduction of bathroom bills around the country.

Unfortunately when faced with these attacks, mainstream gay organisations have often been quick to throw trans people under the bus. This has got to stop. We need to have a serious discussion about gender, both within LGBTIQ circles and in our broader society. That means supporting trans people when they come under attack, and fighting for a society that allows people to live and express their gender as they wish.

The forced surgeries and sterilisation of intersex people
Across Australia, medical practitioners routinely conduct surgeries on intersex people, primarily children, that are designed to “normalise” people into gender and sex norms. For example, in 2016, the Family Court allowed for an invasive medical intervention on a five-year-old intersex child called Carla.

Carla, who is genetically male but was born with genitals that “resembled that of a female” underwent surgery to “enhance the appearance of her female genitals.” It is very unlikely that this operation was medically necessary.

Intersex groups have intensified their pressure on this issue in recent years,releasing the joint Darlington Statement earlier this year, which called for the “immediate prohibition as a criminal act of deferrable medical interventions, including surgical and hormonal interventions, that alter the sex characteristics of infants and children without personal consent.” They have been backed up by both the Senate and the Australian Human Rights Commission, but there have been no policy changes.

Intersex advocates are fighting for bodily autonomy. It is a basic human right that is still denied to many people.

Anti-discrimination legislation
Among all the discussion regarding religious freedoms in the marriage equality debate, one thing went largely unnoticed: religious organisations already have wide-ranging exemptions to anti-discrimination legislation. In many states, for example, it remains legal for religious organisations to fire employees based on their sexuality. In Western Australia, the South Baptist College in Waikiki recently fired an employee when they found out he was gay. Religious schools in many states also have the right to deny a student enrolment or to expel them because of their sexuality, potentially forcing kids to stay in the closet throughout their education.

Just as it is not acceptable for secular organisations to discriminate based on gender and sexuality, it should not be acceptable for religious organisations to do the same. The right to expel students is particularly worrying, as it forces already isolated kids to hide their sexuality or gender identity, potentially creating long-term impacts. The right to discriminate is something we should reject, whether from a religious organisation or not.

Fighting for asylum seekers
In the midst of the postal survey, the humanitarian crisis on Manus Island has gotten demonstrably worse. Many of the asylum seekers on both Manus and Nauru are queer, with many of them fleeing oppression based on their sexuality. In response, they have been locked up, continuing to face violence because of their sexuality.

The marriage equality debate was a success for LGBTIQ people giving them the right to live their lives in security and happiness. Yet at the same time, our government denies that right to those seeking asylum in our country. Even as a non-LGBTIQ specific issue, fighting to bring asylum seekers to Australia should therefore be a major priority.

The success of same-sex marriage should give us space to think more about broader issues of both queer and other forms of oppression in our society.

Now it is up to us to work on ways to deal with these forms of oppression. These issues should just be a starting point. Marriage equality is not the end of the road.

The amount of commenters chloroformed on that post was outstanding. Bravo Guardian.
Every second post "deleted for not meeting community guidelines" must be some kind of record.

Let's see what Simon Copeland looks like...

Yeah, that's the kind of fist dildo fetishist face I imagined he'd have.