Disaster Church Shooting At Sutherland Springs, Texas - 26+ Dead

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/texas-church-shooting/index.html

FBI responding to the scene of a shooting outside San Antonio, Texas


Multiple people shot at Texas church 01:13
(CNN)The FBI is responding to the scene of a reported shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas, according to Michelle Lee, spokeswoman for the FBI's San Antonio field office.

Local police also have responded to the scene, which occurred at the First Baptist Church, a witness told CNN. The witness, a cashier at a gas station across the street from the church, said she heard about 20 shots being fired in quick succession while a church service was underway.
Sutherland Springs is about 30 miles east of San Antonio.
Developing story - more to come

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/breaking-news/mass-shooting-at-texas-church/640130169

At least 27 people have been killed and 27 injured in a Texas church shooting today, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

The alleged shooter is dead, and it appears there is no longer an active threat at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, about 40 miles southeast of San Antonio, police told ABC News affiliate KSAT in San Antonio on Sunday afternoon.

The church's pastor, Frank Pomeroy, told ABC his 14yr-old daughter is among the dead. He added she "was one very beautiful, special child."

This is a breaking news story. Stay with WSBTV.com and watch Channel 2 Action News at 6 p.m. for live updates.

A person who said she works at a gas station across the street from the church told ABC News she heard rapid gunfire at around 11:15 a.m., leading congregants from the church as well as customers at the station to run inside for cover.

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“We heard several shots and we all started running inside the store,” she said.

“It lasted about 15 seconds. I yelled, ‘Get down! Get inside!’ and we all went into hiding,” said the woman, who said she is 49 but declined to give her name.

She said the gas station locked its doors. "We have not reopened,” she said.

She then that within minutes of the gunfire, emergency personnel had arrived at the scene.

“There were officers that were checking the wounded in here were asking them questions,” she said.

Connally Memorial Center in nearby Floresville told ABC News it has received six people from the shooting.

The FBI and ATF are heading to the scene, ABC News has learned.

Outside the church, police have formed a perimeter and flooded the grounds with emergency and police vehicles, according to KSAT.

A small group of people were seen standing together, holding hands as tears overtook an attempt to pray, a KSAT reporter said.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement, "The thoughts and prayers of all Texans are with the people of Sutherland Springs as tragic reports come out of First Baptist Church."

"Please join Angela and me as we pray for those impacted by this horrific shooting,” Paxton said.

Just after 3 p.m. Sunday, President Trump tweeted that he is monitoring Texas church shooting from Japan.

The killer has been identified as Devin Patrick Kelley. He was apparently an atheist and was dishonorably discharged from the military due to woman beating and breaking his stepson's skull.
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I have a PhD in armchair psychology, so let's profile this bitch
  • Rich but neglective parents, evidenced by expensive house, FAS and poor school record. Parents didn't care their son was a loser. Possibly felt guilty of retarding the kid with their drinking habits, and therefore let him do as he wished.
  • Wanted to be a super soldier but ended up as a supply clerk, that must've smarted.
  • Married at a young age but abused his wife, violent personality. Probably not a marriage out of love, but he managed to get the girl pregnant and she didn't want to abort the child, and conservative neighbors pressured them to marry.
  • Working at some religious camp & violent tendencies, great combination. Perhaps something happened. Combined with unhappy forced marriage, caused an intense hatred of Christianity.
  • Mall ninja gun with Walmart red dot shows a juvenile personality type, and style-over-substance Advanced Warfighter fantasies.
Based on the evidence, I diagnose Devin Patrick Kelley as a
cuck
 
I believe there's a thing in libel law where if your character is so defamed that further defamation cannot harm you, there would be no tort and therefore no damages. I ANAL (everyday).

It's called "no good reputation to defend." It's very narrow and limited. You practically have to be on the level of Charles Manson for it to apply.
 
Maybe we should get stricter with people who are felons or mentally ill being able to get guns.
it doesn't get much stricter than "you cannot ever possess a gun and if you do, you go to federal prison for 10 years minimum".

Apparently he was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force and married.

More information about why he is was dishonorably discharged, then court marshaled

The Big Chicken Dinner isn't quite a dishonorable discharge, but it's the next worst thing you could get.
a DD is generally something along the lines of forcible felonies - rape, murder, et c. you can also catch one for gross negligence or some other catastrophic event that affected operations.

a Bad Conduct Discharge is a type of discharge that might or might not be a felony depending on the time served in prison. since he served 12 months, it's likely a felony-level event which would generate a "deny" on most civil rights as if it was a felony conviction. DD is not the only type of discharge that wins you the loss of civil rights. more than likely he was a prohibited person and acquired the firearm through less than legal means.

i'd be curious when he posted that pic, as the Ruger AR-556 wasn't released until Sept. 2014, so either his BCD wasn't sufficient for an actual civil rights forfeiture or he acquired it privately in some fashion and stupidly posted about it.
 
Meanwhile in the scabrous world of Jones and Cernovich, ANTIFA did it. Not sure how they had time after insitgating a civil war only a couple of days back.

Cunts like Jones and Cernovich would not know the meaning of respect if it kicked them in the balls. With a number of liberals also trying to score political points from this tragedy, once again the nasty bits of right and left prove they are just different flavours of disgusting.

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http://www.newsweek.com/sutherland-...-kelley-was-antifa-according-far-right-702338
 
Since he served 12 months, it's likely a felony-level event which would generate a "deny" on most civil rights as if it was a felony conviction.
Rich parents. They own a 700000 dollar McMansion on a 24 hectare lot. Money probably helped to lessen the conviction.

http://www.dilloware.com/index.htm
This is the Kelley company, seems to be a billing software firm. One star on Yelp.
 
If you want to kill your family, please just leave everybody else out of it. *sigh*
I don't know if it's fair or reasonable to discount this as an anti-Christian attack, especially on account of currently circulating rumorsnews articles about his beliefs. The way he went about the shooting (outside in for most of the duration) also implies indiscriminate slaughter rather than a targeted attack.
I'm a little concerned by how easily the public accept "wuz Jihad" when a Muslim does it, the instant cries of jubilee from the media of "wuz Racism" when Roof did it, but it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to even just consider "wuz Anti-Christian" when this happens. I mean, aside from the Fort Hood Massacre anniversary angle, what else was it going to be?
 
I don't know if it's fair or reasonable to discount this as an anti-Christian attack, especially on account of currently circulating rumorsnews articles about his beliefs. The way he went about the shooting (outside in for most of the duration) also implies indiscriminate slaughter rather than a targeted attack.
I'm a little concerned by how easily the public accept "wuz Jihad" when a Muslim does it, the instant cries of jubilee from the media of "wuz Racism" when Roof did it, but it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to even just consider "wuz Anti-Christian" when this happens. I mean, aside from the Fort Hood Massacre anniversary angle, what else was it going to be?
Anti-Trumplestiltskin?
 
For those angered that the left gleefully politicizes this as being about entitled white men and white supremacy and gun control before the bodies are even cold, I feel you. But think for a moment what your own knee-jerk response is when it's a muslim immigrant instead of a white citizen. The farms has a lot of folk who just press F and give feels and horrified ratings when a tragedy occurs but there's also a hell of a lot of people whose immediate vocal response is about controlling immigration and how the left is sabotaging our freedom and safety.

A lot of people who bring up gun control are angry and scared and not even consciously thinking about scoring points for their side. I believe the left's stated proposals for stopping gun attacks are nonsensical for the same reasons as many of you do. But I think some people need to remember a little perspective when it comes to who should be allowed to feel like a tragedy is due to their opponents' politics and who is morally wrong to bring it up.
 
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