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Serious talk, can they actually do this legally? Like if they vote for secession will the Leaf Government just say "LOL no, you can't legally leave though"?

In the US we specifically made secession illegal after the Civil War.
I love how AFTER the civil war secession was illegal. Not before, not during, AFTER.

Which then begs the question, was the south right all along? 🤔
 
The amount of American tax dollars that has went to brown places is insane. Look at this fucking list. Any hour you worked, a decent amount of those minutes was wasted on these fucking shitholes.

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You know that Israel's economy globally ranks 25th in nominal GDP, 3rd in macroeconomic performance according to The Economist, and roughly 14th to 21st in nominal GDP per capita...right?


Also fuck the Marshall Islands damn COFA niggas. All my homies hate all 200,000 of them.
 
Well yeah I'm not gonna say it was right. Like no shit the Confederacy was wrong. I'm more talking legally.
Specifically looking at the matter on a legal level, there were two camps, one believed the Constitution was a contract among independent states and the other believed that the union was perpetual. To back up their arguments, the former used early state ratification documents referencing sovereignty and the latter would bring up the Perpetual Union brought up in the Articles of Confederation.
 
Specifically looking at the matter on a legal level, there were two camps, one believed the Constitution was a contract among independent states and the other believed that the union was perpetual. To back up their arguments, the former used early state ratification documents referencing sovereignty and the latter would bring up the Perpetual Union brought up in the Articles of Confederation.
one of the reasons the leadership of the confederacy (specifically Jefferson Davis) were not charged was because the Johnson administration feared that SCOTUS would rule against the federal government on the matter of secession, so they did not chance it.

the feds still pull this move today. when some one is picked up by the ATF for having an illegal machine gun or illegal silencer and actually tries to argue that the NFA is unconstitutional the ATF almost always drops the NFA charges.
 
one of the reasons the leadership of the confederacy (specifically Jefferson Davis) were not charged was because the Johnson administration feared that SCOTUS would rule against the federal government on the matter of secession, so they did not chance it.

the feds still pull this move today. when some one is picked up by the ATF for having an illegal machine gun or illegal silencer and actually tries to argue that the NFA is unconstitutional the ATF almost always drops the NFA charges.
So what were they charged for? Murder? Terrorism? Can't be treason right?
 
Never let neocons tell you that they're the "real" Republicans. 100 years ago the Party Platform was identical to MAGA.
I like how the platform sports the most successful ideas that actually secured American economic and cultural health during the Great Depression, shit that eve historic economists agree is basic goddamn sense.
 
So what were they charged for? Murder? Terrorism? Can't be treason right?
He was charged with treason in 1866, but a lot of factors, like Andrew Johnson's impeachment, led to his actual trial being delayed. On Christmas in 1868, they blanket pardoned all the Confederates, but it seems like they still considered trying him until February 1869, then dropped the charges.
 
Serious talk, can they actually do this legally? Like if they vote for secession will the Leaf Government just say "LOL no, you can't legally leave though"?

In the US we specifically made secession illegal after the Civil War.
Everything was codified in federal law to allow a province to secede in order to appease Quebec and simultaneously define terms that guarantee Quebec would never vote to separate. Stuff like paying back 10 years of federal government payments would utterly destroy Quebec.

The fun part is that everything that would discourage Quebec isn’t a problem for Alberta, as the Feds will owe Alberta an insane amount of money due to Alberta being the biggest net contributor of all provinces.
 
He was charged with treason in 1866, but a lot of factors, like Andrew Johnson's impeachment, led to his actual trial being delayed. On Christmas in 1868, they blanket pardoned all the Confederates, but it seems like they still considered trying him until February 1869, then dropped the charges.
It cannot be understated that if Andrew Johnson hadn't been Abraham Lincoln's Vice President then post-Civil War America would've been very different. Hannibal Hamlin, Johnson's predecessor, was a committed ally to the Radical Republicans and they were not so fond of the idea of being lenient to former Confederates.
 
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