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Should be a wild four years.

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I think you're overthinking it. You get a pretty good ending by not doing anything. Arguably, an even better ending. But it isn't actually much fun. Murdering people by the thousand with assault rifles is fun.
I think non-sentient humans that can't understand or express basics.. I dunno anymore. It's not pleasant to deal with human NPCs much. And I'm usually only exposed to upper 50% level.
 
meh you poke Jersh at your own peril. Fatty's schitck was getting old anyway. Good riddence.
Go gold then, don't lecture on it under $250 a year crypto. Also, it won't stop you from getting banned, he's made it clear no matter what he'll shitcan you no matter the $ you give. Fatpacks was gold towards the end.

And for him he did it to himself on here and the other thread. I'm amazed we don't have a signup going 'we're all gonna die, MAGA's dead' already, but I guess that would be too janny-obvious because the eyes are watching
 
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Realistically if there was an attempt at a modern day Crusade, the Christians involved would be fighting not only the enemies of their faith but also their own as a number of churches would be quick to disavow the whole ordeal and cry "pacifism" as it played out. Christianity also doesn't have an equivalent of land-based Zionism (some sort of Holy Land that needs to be taken back) for everyone to rally around.
33% of Americans in the colonies supported the revolution and 33% supported the crown. You're always going to have faggots who are in the way who make life more difficult no matter what.

Treat them as a obstacle you have to work out or bypass. Don't argue with them, it's a waste of time. If they don't see that:

Mohammad fucking a 9 year old = bad then their opinion doesn't matter.
 
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meh you poke Jersh at your own peril. Fatty's schitck was getting old anyway. Good riddence.
Go gold then, don't lecture on it under $250 a year crypto. Also, it won't stop you from getting banned, he's made it clear no matter what he'll shitcan you no matter the $ you give. Fatpacks was gold towards the end.
you're supposed to lick up the null clitty leak trail, not go for the source. Its how you can enjoy delicious null sneed without the gaze of Sauron vaporizing you to the shadow realm.
 
Wow, the site must have been down overnight because there's not been the usual /pol/-style slap fights from the night owls and the Euros.

Anyway, hail and good morning, my fellows.
 
Anyone else having trouble getting images to load? They either appear in a post but won't enlarge (yes, I'm phone-fagging right now), or they won't even load in a post and instead leaves a hyperlink that subsequently leads to the spinning wheel of disappointment.
 
33% of Americans in the colonies supported the revolution and 33% supported the crown. You're always going to have faggots who are in the way who make life more difficult no matter what.

Treat them as a obstacle you have to work out or bypass. Don't argue with them, it's a waste of time. If they don't see that:

Mohammad fucking a 9 year old = bad then their opinion doesn't matter.
So even before America became America proper, there were guilty white people who hated America?
That's the most American shit ever. Fuck those queefs.
 
Trump will be speaking at 3PM EST/ Noon PST today about nuclear innovations and, once again, not respecting Jewsh's time slot.
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Commie Mamdani is shiddding and pissing himself and has earned the ire of the NYPD by all but instigating a riot in advance of the UN General Assembly in September,
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“The mayor’s activist posturing puts police officers on the street in a terrible position,” NYPD Police Benevolent Association President Patrick Hendry said. “Protests during the UN General Assembly are nothing new, but when the mayor of the city is actively calling for demonstrations, violent agitators will assume they have permission to cause as much havoc as possible. “Those same agitators know that the NYPD’s protest response is already hamstrung by the dangerous lawsuit settlement the city signed over the PBA’s opposition,” Hendry said. “The mayor’s heated rhetoric could be enough to push demonstrations over the edge into chaos.”

The mayor was forced to backtrack this week by admitting he didn’t have the juice to do it — but urged New Yorkers to protest Netanyahu, which means more work for the NYPD.

“This is a city where, if anyone feels a level of frustration or opposition, protest is something that we will always respect,” he told reporters at City Hall this week. “That New Yorkers can express themselves, whether they are in support or in opposition, no matter on whatever topic. “And I’ve always said that when we respect our Constitution, we also respect our First Amendment.”

New York’s Finest already went above and beyond to handle the unprecedented tourist rush this summer, and were put on 12-hour shifts to handle the extra duty — which they pulled off flawlessly.
Now, their own mayor is adding to the workload.

“Was he serious?” one incredulous Manhattan cop asked. “Cops just came off a crazy six weeks between the Knicks and the World Cup working long hours every day, and now he’s going to subject them to unnecessary problems,” the cop said.

One Brooklyn cop called Mamdani “nothing more than a cheap politician looking for cheap headlines” who knew — or at least should have known — that he “didn’t have the power” to arrest the prime minister.

Another department veteran added, “When will he realize that he is not an activist anymore? “He should be governing the city and trying to keep the peace, instead of inciting a riot with his rhetoric,” he said. “He is basically telling the crazy people to do what they want, and there will be no repercussions. If a cop gets hurt, it will be on him, but that is the least of his worries.”

Yet, despite the added burden, police union officials said the NYPD will be ready as always when the UN General Assembly kicks off in September.
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In a rare act of bipartisanship both the RINOs and the Neocons are going after ya boi Diamond JD in an attempt to derail his, inevitable 48th and 49th presidential terms.
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As JD Vance prepares to make a decision about his 2028 plans, the vice president is facing a barrage of online attacks from within his party, criticism his allies say appears to be part of a coordinated attempt to poison the well for him politically.

His detractors have adopted the “Never Vance” slogan and flooded social media, especially over the past week, with attacks including claims that Vance is “unfit” to be vice president due to his efforts to negotiate a peace deal with Iran. They have asserted, without evidence, that Vance is making policy decisions not supported by President Donald Trump. They have likened him to former president Barack Obama and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont).

The sustained public hostility from Vance’s own side of the aisle is unlike that faced by other vice presidents in decades, both in intensity and in the early timing — two years before the party will choose its next presidential nominee. The unusual nature is a product of the central role that social media plays in today’s political discourse, as well as the high stakes as Republicans prepare to select a new standard-bearer after Trump, Vance allies and critics say.
Vance’s political team remains dismissive of the social media onslaught and its impact on Republican voters, believing that many of the attacks are not organic, a close ally of the vice president told The Washington Post — a sentiment echoed by two other people with knowledge of Vance’s strategy. The ally and other advisers spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

Vance’s allies are keenly aware of and monitoring the online attacks, but his team says the criticism sends a signal to the conservative base that establishment Republicans and opponents they label as neoconservatives hate Vance. That, they say, could ultimately strengthen his standing in a GOP primary.
“Loud Washington establishment voices form an online cacophony,” said Steve Cortes, a conservative commentator supportive of Vance, “but they do not remotely represent the consensus views of Republican voters.”

Vance, whose brand of politics is populist and skeptical of foreign wars, has remained the front-runner in 2028 Republican primary polling. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the favorite of many more traditional, business-minded Republicans, has gained ground in recent months, however, although Rubio has insisted he will support Vance if he runs.

The knives have long been out for Vance within the GOP, since before Trump selected him as his running mate. At the time, hawkish donors and conservative media personalities lobbied for Trump to reject Vance in favor of Rubio or Doug Burgum, now secretary of the interior.
Polling of Republican voters shows Vance’s favorability within the party as roughly on par with Trump’s.
Intense criticism from some Republicans, largely over Vance’s foreign policy views, has ebbed and flowed since the start of the second Trump term. The criticism reached a first peak in the fall as neoconservatives and pro-Israel activists portrayed Vance as antisemitic for sympathizing with figures who expressed skepticism over the U.S. relationship with Israel. More recently, attacks ticked up again after Vance sat for a nearly three-hour interview July 15 on Joe Rogan’s widely watched podcast.

During the show, Vance described himself as a “reasonable moderate” in the debate over the U.S.-Israel relationship. He also cited a recent Time report about an online pro-Israel influence operation run by a former Trump campaign official, through which Vance said he was being attacked “in dishonest ways” by paid influencers.
“You know, my response to that is, ‘Well, go to hell,’” Vance told Rogan. “I’m going to do what I have to do for the American people. I represent Americans first, and that’s the way that I’ve tried to do this job.”
Pro-Israel conservatives erupted. A Washington Post analysis of conservative influencers’ posts on X found that criticism of Vance spiked immediately after his appearance on Rogan’s podcast.
Critical posts poured in from prominent commentators including Ben Shapiro, Marc Thiessen and Batya Ungar-Sargon, as well as online right-wing influencers and little-known X users whose anti-Vance posts quickly gained traction. Some of the users who pledged to oppose Vance and support Rubio in 2028 had profiles that strongly suggested they aren’t American voters and are based in other countries.

It was “obvious to anyone with an IQ above 70″ that the barrage of attacks has been “totally inauthentic and probably coordinated to a certain extent,” the close Vance ally said.

The upsurge in online criticism “hasn’t been reflected in any data correlating with Vance’s image among GOP voters, which currently tracks President Trump’s image to a T,” the person said. “If it were organic, authentic or effective,” Vance’s favorability rating with Republican voters would have cratered over the past nine months, since the intense online criticism first peaked, the person said. “And that just hasn’t happened.”

A spokesperson for the vice president said Vance’s only focus is “fighting for the president’s agenda and delivering wins for the American people,” and that he is not concerned with social media.

Vance allies have pushed back publicly against some of the attacks, at times calling attention to common language used among those posting insults.
Jon Schweppe, a Vance supporter and senior adviser at the American Principles Project, who worked for Trump’s Federal Trade Commission until earlier this year, posted a chart on X last week that showed the vice president’s favorability among Republicans had remained steady despite an “anti-Vance op.” His post quickly received dozens of replies from accounts that didn’t follow him — all attacking Vance. Schweppe described the response as curious, since his post had not been shared by any high-follower accounts.

“Primary season — I guess it’s beginning before the midterms this year,” Schweppe said, adding that Vance’s detractors are “trying to create a divide and separate him from the president.”

“There’s going to be folks within the party structure, within the influencer structure, who are going to try to knock him down a few pegs in hope that a challenger can emerge to beat him, and that’s just what we’re seeing,” Schweppe said. “But it’s absolutely organized.”
The intense focus on the vice president is unusual. Trump’s first vice president, Mike Pence, didn’t face intense backlash from Republicans until the final weeks of his term, as the president and his supporters blamed Pence for failing to act to overturn the 2020 election results. Before that, Pence had been widely liked by Republicans, with few prominent conservatives raising their heads to harshly criticize him.
Is J'Dizzle the most relevant Veep in American history? Many are saying this.
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The France-based vendor IDEMIA, responsible for New Jersey's DMV software counters Gov. Mikie Sherrill's that illegals were registered to vote based on a "software error."
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The company at the center of New Jersey’s voter registration debacle is pushing back against Gov. Mikie Sherrill’s claims that noncitizens were registered to vote because of a “serious software error."

Sherrill announced on Tuesday that 6,600 noncitizens had registered to vote between 2023 and 2024, with around 400 of them casting ballots — a stunning revelation that has made waves in Trenton and Washington. When individuals applied for drivers licenses and ID cards at the state Motor Vehicle Commission, Sherrill said, even those who indicated they were a noncitizen were erroneously added to the voter rolls anyway.


The France-based vendor IDEMIA, however, said that its systems functioned perfectly well, and had in fact been specifically approved by the state before being implemented. The error, the company claimed, arose when the Motor Vehicles Commission sent noncitizens’ data to the state Division of Elections — which the company said should not have happened, but was the state’s own doing.


“All 6,600 individuals indicated ‘Yes’ to wanting to register to vote and ‘No’ to being a US Citizen,” Lisa Shoemaker, IDEMIA’s senior vice president of global corporate relations, said in a statement. “This information was recorded correctly and always available to the MVC via the database that MVC utilized to gather voter information and transmit to the Division of Elections. At no point was a noncitizen ever marked as a citizen in the database.”

In June 2024, Shoemaker said, the MVC requested that IDEMIA change its settings so that those who indicated they were noncitizens were automatically marked as declining to register to vote. That solved the issue going forward, but the 6,600 people mistakenly added to the rolls in the year prior were not removed or disclosed publicly until now.

At an unrelated press conference on Thursday, Sherrill continued laying the blame on IDEMIA, saying that the state had already decided to part ways with the company before the voter registration scandal was uncovered — a decision that was made due to IDEMIA’s “incompetence,” the governor charged.

“I think it’s well known that the Motor Vehicle Commission has been a mess, and IDEMIA is at the heart of that: long wait times, bureaucracy, red tape,” she said.

The issue has quickly taken on political significance well beyond New Jersey, and President Donald Trump’s administration has leapt on it as evidence of the widespread voter fraud that many Republicans have warned about for years. Assistant U.S. Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division Harmeet Dhillon sent a letter on Tuesday requesting information on the identities of the noncitizen voters, and indicated on a podcast with a conservative influencer that the voters could face prosecution.

Sherrill has signaled that her administration does not intend on complying with the demand, though she has not definitively ruled it out.

“We are not in the practice of turning this kind of personally identifying data over to the federal government, because we have seen them weaponize it,” she said on Thursday.
You know shit is dire when Politico wants to get out ahead of things and disavow rather than try to carry water for the Democrat Party
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Fuck my vantablack nigger life. Sneedforo is being a persnickety bish today and will not let me format that last quote without randomly deleting paragraphs from earlier in this post. Apologize for the lack of polish, but it should fit in with my usual, copious spelling errors resulting in the hamsters being too hung over to get the treadmill spinning.

The July 23rd issue of Frontiers in Ethology. Reported a novel new hunting strategy for Killer Whales.
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Scientists documented this brutal activity among orcas (Orcinus orca) in the Gulf of California in 2024 and 2025. In both cases, one adult orca held a dead sharp-tail sunfish (Masturus lanceolatus) steady while another slammed into it with enough force to smash the sunfish into smithereens.

Killer whales might pulverize sunfish to break them into smaller bites for young orcas — or they might just find it entertaining, researchers report July 23 in Frontiers in Ethology.

“I was absolutely gobsmacked” by this behavior, says Marianne Nyegaard, a marine biologist at Auckland Museum in New Zealand who was not involved in the work. She’d seen a couple videos of orcas battering sunfish on social media before the new paper did a deep dive on this phenomenon. “I thought it was the coolest thing I had ever seen,” she says.
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Nyegaard is not necessarily surprised that orcas have come up with such a creative strategy to dispatch sharp-tail sunfish, which can get up to a few meters long. “Orcas will do all sorts of things,” she says. “They are so clever at figuring out how to hunt and deal with a ton of different prey types.” That hunting is often a team sport, as when orcas band together to ambush blue whales or collectively make waves to knock penguins off ice.


Orcas most likely annihilate sunfish this way to help feed their young, says Francesca Pancaldi, a marine biologist not involved in the work. After one of the sunfish explosions reported in the paper, she notes, a young orca began feeding on the small bits of carnage.

But that may not be the only reason for this practice, adds Pancaldi, of the marine science center in La Paz associated with Mexico’s Instituto Politécnico Nacional. “Killer whales are highly social animals, and a behavior can simultaneously provide nutritional benefits, reinforce social bonds and serve as an opportunity for younger individuals to learn hunting techniques.”
We have the best killer whales don't we folks? Leading the world in hunting technology. A year ago I was talking with Saudi Arabia and they said American killer whales were dead, now they are saying our killer whales are stronger than ever.
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So even before America became America proper, there were guilty white people who hated America?
That's the most American shit ever. Fuck those queefs.
They literally relocated north and became Canadians. Funny story, those proto-canadian started off doing the most heinous war crimes imaginable, using the excuse of the revolution to raid isolated farms on what would become the northern border to pillage, rape, and murder entire communities. Canadians, from the start, have been subhuman animals. Look into the Acadians if you want to see how the leafniggers will sell an entire population of hundreds of thousands with Whites into slavery on a whim.

Canadian identity, from the start, has always been about being the most craven slaves to their german rulers in England, and committing as many attrocities as their masters will allow. They are truely the most vile subhumans imaginable. Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed.
 
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In a rare act of bipartisan both the RINOs and the Neocons are going after ya boi Diamond JD in an attempt to derail his, inevitable 48th and 49th presidential terms.
As it stands now, I would vote for Vance in a heartbeat over any names being floated by the Dems, Jeet wife and all. The prospect of a Harris (for reals this time, gais) or Newsome run is laughable.
 
Trump will be speaking at 3PM EST/ Noon PST today about nuclear innovations and, once again, not respecting Jewsh's time slot.
He's also doing round 2 of the press correspondence dinner tonight because a gay reddit nigger ruined the first one.
 
Is J'Dizzle the most relevant Veep in American history? Many are saying this.
As far as the position of Vice President itself is concerned, he is doing a lot more then Kamala Harris but he's not to the same level of influence and power as Dick Cheney was. The VP being attacked by politicians from his own party outside of a campaign cycle is certainly something not seen much in living memory though.
 
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He's also doing round 2 of the press correspondence dinner tonight because a gay reddit nigger ruined the first one.
Nigger it's Friday night. I don't got time for alla that bullshit. I am going to press my suit, trim my mustache, and then head out to the country club to have some drinks, listen to some music, do a little dancing, and talk to some CUTE 30-35 SINGLE♀FEMALE♀COMPANION boyfriend free girls.:tomgirl:

As far as the position of vice president itself is concerned, he is doing a lot more then Kamala Harris but he's not to the same level of influence and power as Dick Cheney was. The Vice President being attacked by politicians from his own party outside of a campaign cycle is certainly something not seen much in living memory though.
Dick Cheney's most relevant shit under W was shooting a nigger in the face and being a punchline for late night talkshow hosts. His actual most relevant shit was orchestrating the first Iraq was under Bush Sr.
 
Why is the democrat party DNC machine pushing him so hard now? They are desperate, that's why.
Seems like the democrats refuse to take an L and move on from losing issues, the whole Hunter Biden debacle was an L for them and they just can't accept it and try to turn any loss into a win by doubling down on it.

I have a feeling both Swalwell and Platner will come back soon as well for the same reason.
 
In a rare act of bipartisanship both the RINOs and the Neocons are going after ya boi Diamond JD in an attempt to derail his, inevitable 48th and 49th presidential terms.
JDs position on the Iran war has shown real strategic immaturity and thats not even getting into his online sphere of supporters who call any criticism a conspiracy op.

The 60 day MoU went down in flames after only 20 days thanks to a fundamental failing to understand the Iran threat or thinking. I get the need to avoid forever wars, but his brand of isolationism is worrying. Had we listened to the Rubio and Israel more, and gone for regime change from the start and stuck with it, the war would largely be in the rearview. Instead Trump listened to people like Vance who pushed for diplomacy against a country who has never lost at the negotiating table and ended up dragging the war on far longer than it needed to be.

Hes better than whoever the democrats put up, but he needs a lot of work before a serious 2028 campaign.
 
As it stands now, I would vote for Vance in a heartbeat over any names being floated by the Dems, Jeet wife and all. The prospect of a Harris (for reals this time, gais) or Newsome run is laughable.
I would vote for JD Vance because after Trump he's the best man for the job. I like him as a person and I don't care about his Indian wife, although his relationship with Peter Thiel does give me pause.
I feel like if he runs in 2028 that's going to be the only thing that they can touch him with will be the Thiel relationship. Although they met in college and Thiel hired him back in the day so I don't think it's that sordid that he would later go on to pump a bunch of money into getting Vance elected.
 
I like JD and I think he can be a good president but he really needs to tell the retard right to fuck off and understand that there are some that you can't reason with and you need to use force.
 
The Chinese AIs show that's it's more then possible for companies to host their own AIs on-premise, which makes that bulk of these datacenters moot. When you add in the fact that we are clearly in a bubble, it's clear that as soon as that bubble pops a good portion of AI infastructure will not be neccessary.

Those, combined with the speed that all of these data centers are being propped up, means that there might be something horribly wrong going on. it could be we have literally built a massive LLM that thinks it's Roko's Basilisk and we're screwed as a species, or the deep state is setting up an omnipotent surveillance state. Too many potential scenarios have the same scenario where we need to start chopping up fiber optic backbones yesterday.
You misunderstand and/or mix up. The new Kimi 3 is open weight, which means anyone can host it, it doesn't mean it's efficient or makes sense for everyone to have it on their own hardware (it is _massive_, requiring multi-node GPU clusters on the order of 8–16 nodes of 8x H100 or B200, a multi-million dollar investment sitting mostly idle in most businesses).

Data centers exist because they're the most efficient way (economically and every other sense) to store and process data, and that includes hosting LLMs.

The positive with massive and capable open weight models is that you're not locked into a single vendor, not that you should buy the (very expensive and underutilized) hardware to have it under your own roof with your own electricity.
 
I would vote for JD Vance because after Trump he's the best man for the job. I like him as a person and I don't care about his Indian wife, although his relationship with Peter Thiel does give me pause.
I feel like if he runs in 2028 that's going to be the only thing that they can touch him with will be the Thiel relationship. Although they met in college and Thiel hired him back in the day so I don't think it's that sordid that he would later go on to pump a bunch of money into getting Vance elected.
My only hope with JD would be that he refocuses on domestic improvements. I think Trump has lost the plot on that to a significant degree.
 
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