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YMMV, but I don't normally see women under 30 at my co-ed running socials. I'm not actually sure what, if anything, women about my age do. I'm not so convinced there will be much of a generation with zoomer moms if they're just bed rotting. Zoomer guys still show up. They look and behave fairly normally.
Women pop a child, realize how womanhood-affirming it is and either seek the next dick to pump out another or make it their whole life. But not in that romantic "single mom who does everything for her child" way, but the "takes selfies and posts it online" sort. The kind that fills their dating bio with paragraph after paragraph about their kid; something inherently negative in a dating space yet beside it she's got no identity.
Zoomers aren't very social, they think everything is "cringe," they're entitled, they don't want to put any effort into anything ... Just not a very fun or inspired group of people.
I work in a psych ward and it's baffling to see 18 year old mental girls be able to play the piano incredibly well. I can't for the life of me imagine what kind of life one must lead these days to have time or interest in hobbies let alone music. I grew up wanting only to associate with ebin memesters but now I'd take any fucking boomer normie over having to deal with phones, brainrot and no aspirations in life.
Also this, I hate how boomers PLASTER pictures of their grandkids on facebook. My friend has a no photos online of her kids policy for obvious reasons. She doesn't have a facebook as she is not geriatric, so she isn't familiar with her parent's internet habits. I went to her parents fb and what did I find? Yep, dozens if not hundreds of photos of her children. Boomers refuse obsec, those great grandparent updoots from their aging church friends are worth more than their grandkids being turned into an indians AI CSAM.
I blame Gen X parents. I don't hate or even dislike Gen X, but DAMN they've disappointed me in how hands-off they are about everything. I understand that they just want to do their job and be left alone....except when it comes to leading and being in charge, they refuse to do it because they don't want the pain in the ass that comes with it. Is it any wonder why they haven't taken control away from the Boomers in high-ranking positions? Seems to match up with how they are with parenting because they just left their kids to their own devices and now Gen Z is just floating around rudderless. Zoomers are capable of working and getting good at stuff, but a corporate job is like an albatross for them.
Then you have Millenials who were raised by Boomers, and both of those generations complain non-stop about each other. Both sides have good points sometimes, but holy SHIT I hate how arrogant the Boomers are. They actually seriously think they had life on hard mode and AT THE SAME TIME they actually believe life was better when they were in their prime. I have never seen a Boomer work harder than anyone else from a different generation. Ever. Any time they have to get off their ass and do something, they will complain about how things shouldn't be complicated or use the "I'm too old for this" excuse while refusing to let others assist them because they don't want to feel helpless. Idk, maybe that's less of a 'Boomer' specific issue and just a thing about the elderly in general but considering how many Boomers we have right now, it's annoying as fuck.
He stole my daughter's halloween candy last year. He will literally steal the food out of his grandkid's mouths and think it's okay to do so. He also refuses to let us claim him as a dependent on our taxes even though he doesn't even file.
It's so common now and boomers love doing it to make their family upset. The refusal to plan estates, make wills, DNRs, etc. and power of attorney and figure out who is in charge of boomers when they become full vegetables. It literally takes 20 minutes of sitting with a lawyer. Can't be bothered.
Especially infuriating how they try to keep so much to themselves but are so stupid that they get scammed out of tons of money by the crustiest jeets on the planet.
I said that I don't think we need to import all this foreign labor to replace the shrinking population and she exclaimed "What do you want us to do, all die!?"
Literally every boomer/gen x Californian I know and have come across.
"I wanna be in as much debt as possible in one of the most expensive dates for as long as possible, sell my literal falling apart shack that's now worth 4x as much as I paid for it, and move to a completely different state that has zero people I know, fuck up their housing market, and constantly complain how I wish I was in California still"
I blame Gen X parents. I don't hate or even dislike Gen X, but DAMN they've disappointed me in how hands-off they are about everything. I understand that they just want to do their job and be left alone....except when it comes to leading and being in charge, they refuse to do it because they don't want the pain in the ass that comes with it. Is it any wonder why they haven't taken control away from the Boomers in high-ranking positions? Seems to match up with how they are with parenting because they just left their kids to their own devices and now Gen Z is just floating around rudderless. Zoomers are capable of working and getting good at stuff, but a corporate job is like an albatross for them.
You mean the latchkey generation, who insists "they turned out fine," are raising an entire generation that's directionless, emotionally neglected, cynical, and depressed kids? Color me shocked! We can thank a lot of Boomers for this too, I guess.
There's a lot that I like about Gen X, but there's a difference between "mess with me, I dare you because I don't give a fuck" (aka the cool Gen Xers) and actually not giving a fuck about anything. A lot of Gen Xers did not grow out of their edgy teenage angst phase, and it clearly shows with Zoomers right now.
Then you have Millenials who were raised by Boomers, and both of those generations complain non-stop about each other. Both sides have good points sometimes, but holy SHIT I hate how arrogant the Boomers are. They actually seriously think they had life on hard mode and AT THE SAME TIME they actually believe life was better when they were in their prime. I have never seen a Boomer work harder than anyone else from a different generation. Ever. Any time they have to get off their ass and do something, they will complain about how things shouldn't be complicated or use the "I'm too old for this" excuse while refusing to let others assist them because they don't want to feel helpless. Idk, maybe that's less of a 'Boomer' specific issue and just a thing about the elderly in general but considering how many Boomers we have right now, it's annoying as fuck.
I'm just thankful that I was raised by Boomer parents who are awesome people. I have vivid memories from childhood of listening to my parents complain about their own generation and how they're messing everything up for their kids, grandkids, further future generations, etc.
There's a lot I have to criticize about Millennials, my own generation, but a lot of the stereotypes put on us by Boomers are just flat-out false for the most part. Millennials had it hard when it came to entering the job market right after the economic crash of 2008 ... I remember that time well, and most Millennials I was around were hustling hard to find work and some were even working two jobs. And Millennials still made the time to go out and be social with their friends, too (stark contrast to a lot of Zoomers, who are reluctant to work and reluctant to have interests, hobbies, or friends). But Boomers successfully put the "lazy and entitled" label on us, and it stuck. Wild.
I am curious to hear other people talk about how observing boomers has impacted their parenting decisions.
I have great boomer parents but they did make the mistake of trusting that a college degree would automatically put me on a comfy path in life. Spouse and I are planning to set our kids up with some kind of professional path (a trade, clearly defined education to career path, etc) and investments so they don’t start off as a blank slate at 18.
One night, about 20 years ago, I had the misfortune of drinking at the bar with my mom. She asks me, "So, when are you and your woman going to start having kids?"
I replied, "We have no plans for children at this particular time."
She replied, "GOOD! I have no desire to be a grandma."
I guess "pro-choice" only applied to her and no else. If that isn't peak Boomer, I don't know what is.
There's a fine distinction between the way that Millennials are "lazy and entitled", and the way zoomers are.
Millennials grew up actually knowing what things were like before 9/11, and what stuff cost before 2008. I BOUGHT five dollar footlongs, it was worth your time to keep quarters in your pocket. You could support a single household on the average wage, it would be lower-middle-class but plenty of kids were like that. Go out to eat once in a blue moon - Applebee's was legit kind of a treat - and if you're a bit more well-off maybe you get Round Table delivered some weeks.
Then nobody was hiring, right as all the Millennials are getting out of college and entering the workforce, then once they start hiring again suddenly housing has shot up. Okay, you can sort of afford that kind of lifestyle except you have 2 roommates and you're not saving money, you're just paying off student loans. At least you still get pizza on Fridays! And you ask the boomers how to get a raise, and they ask why you feel so entitled to it, "just put your time in, you kids want everything handed to you like a participation trophy LOL". And then you get laid off anyway, job hop a few times, realize that company loyalty is dead and that working harder doesn't mean you get any real reward; suddenly, you're lazy for working to the JD, and entitled for wanting a living wage.
Zoomers don't know what it was like, and in many ways that's worse. They lack the positive vision of a single parent coming back from work on Friday night, takeout pizza and a rented PS1 game from BlockBuster, and you're stoked because it's summer and you have all weekend to beat it. If Millennials are lazy and entitled, zoomies feel 'entitled to laziness' - they don't see anything worth working towards, so why do you expect them to care or work hard? The most common aspirational career is some nebulous "content creator" which just means getting paid millions for posting dumb shit online, which they already do recreationally.
Millennials got stuck with the label because we were stunned doing the math on how fucked we were, at the generational rug pull happening in real time. Sometimes I like to tell zoomers how I bought a Craigslist beater for under $1k, and it ran fine. They don't know about Cash for Clunkers, they didn't have it dawn on them in real time how that alone had a bigger impact on their quality of life than a hundred stupid Congressional resolutions sending money to Israel. Millennials are trying to figure out how many lifelong Senators need to peacefully pass away of old age before we can have the old order back, but zoomers assume it's never happening, and I don't know which of us is more delusional.
"Gen Z is going broke... because they're afraid to ask their friends to pay them back.
A new study finds many Gen Zers are putting group trips, dinners, and other shared expenses on their own cards, then avoiding the awkward conversation about getting reimbursed.
The result? 76% say they've never been fully paid back for something, and 55% say money between friends has created tension."
Boomers think genz is broke not because of the terrible economy created by boomers but instead because we're too autistic to ask our friends to pay for their part of a bill.
One night, about 20 years ago, I had the misfortune of drinking at the bar with my mom. She asks me, "So, when are you and your woman going to start having kids?"
I replied, "We have no plans for children at this particular time."
She replied, "GOOD! I have no desire to be a grandma."
I guess "pro-choice" only applied to her and no else. If that isn't peak Boomer, I don't know what is.
When my mother in law brings up grandkids I politely remind her we cannot afford children right now. A real piece of shit has kids they cannot afford to support and cannot give a good childhood. I've tried to explain this and she has said those are stupid reasons and me and my wife just need to work harder. Of course the good common sense of her parents generation just flys over her head. God I hate these fucking people.
Another interesting tale of my mother in law. She befriended a total stranger and her husband decades younger than her. They met when the younger woman was pregnant. I suspect she legit went out looking for a pregnant woman to befriend. She basically took on a total stranger and her husband as "family" and refers to their daughter as her "grandchild" and buys this woman and her husband lavish gifts and dotes on them. She refers to this woman as "her good daughter" and it's driven my wife to tears more than once. She does things for this woman and her husband she would never do for us. Me and my wife have to be prompt and on time for things or it's meltdown time. This woman and her husband? We've sat for hours waiting for them show up for a family event or dinner and its all roses and kisses for them. And before you think she would be the same towards us if we had a child? She made it clear that if we had a child it would be 100% our responsibility and she was not obligated to help in any way.
I find it interesting how a lot of the (relatively) decent Boomers will not give that label to their own Millenial children even though they give that label to everyone else. I also notice that Millenials will admit their parents are good if there's a good relationship, even though they're sick of Boomers in general. I feel the same way about my Boomer relatives I'm fond of, maybe if there was some sort of common ground we could meet on, we might not despise each other as much as we do.
It really is too bad that Boomers hate videogames, we could get along better if they didn't.
-snip-...Friday night, takeout pizza and a rented PS1 game from BlockBuster, and you're stoked because it's summer and you have all weekend to beat it....-snip-
I feel you on everything said but I have to emphasize this part that needs to be called out. American Millenials have a 'consumerism' problem. We grew up in a time where children were targeted by advertisers and a lot of things that were made 'just for kids'. It was a great time to grow up in, but have you noticed that Millenials seemed to ALWAYS be the target audience for random bullshit marketing? Once we were of drinking age there was this upward trend of getting intoxicated in media, I'll never forget when Four Locos came out (I mean the OG one that killed people) and now we have Disney Adults. Buying stuff that looks cool is such a dopamine hit that even I have to stop myself from getting bullshit I don't need like, idk, an oreo dunking spoon. Boomers are to blame for this because they conditioned Millenials to be this way at a young age by both buying and selling this type of thing. I don't think they MEANT to do it, I honestly believe they were just trying to make their kids happy but it annoys me when they call Millenials out on this behavior because they have the exact same problem! They buy some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen! I remember in the 2000's about half of the Boomers I visited all had that stupid as FUCK talking bass fish on their wall that yelled at everyone that walked by it. I REALLY hope Millenials aren't making the same mistake with their Gen Alpha kids by buying them stuff to flex their status.
Mark my words: Millenials are going to turn out just like how the Boomers are about creature comforts, GenX and Zoomers don't seem to be as bad with that. Wouldn't kill us to be more understanding with Zoomers either, shit man I'm already starting to feel like a Boomer when I remember that I was able to rent a 1 bedroom apartment for 500 dollars 20 years ago (last I checked, that complex was charging 2.5x month rent for the same size unit and it's an even bigger dump now than it was back then).
Sounds like the opposite of stories seen on YouTube from teachers complaining about Gen Alpha. Then again I’m not sure how much of it is millennial feminist teachers breaking down because the class doesn’t want to learn about pronouns or how they live on stolen land.
Anyway, so we're in the 1st class dining car and they had classical music playing. This clearly drunken Boomer woman comes stumbling into the dining car and as loudly as possible states, "What's with this old people music?
Not all, but a lot of them have an aversion to classical. You’d think that they would learn to appreciate it with age, but I guess it was firmly brainwashed into their heads that it’s “old people music”. I despise that boomers fell for this because it’s a huge part of the reason music classes in American schools today teach awful slop, rather than teaching the kids about the great classical composers.
I don’t want to get too schizo, but if you listen to music with lyrics in it, it’s obviously going to affect and alter your thoughts and worldview (humans used song to teach and memorize things from the beginning of humanity. Dementia patients are able to sing old songs they know, we store songs well). It has to be done carefully and with intention. It’s actually better to listen to classical/ movie scores/ other instrumental music as background music as you go about your day so that you can think your own thoughts without the lyrics of some pop song commandeering your brain.
The older I get, the more I understand the aversion people in the 40s and 50s had to rock music being played on TV. The whole Laurel Canyon/ hippy music being a CIA psy-op is a rabbit hole everyone should peek down at some point.
Sounds like the opposite of stories seen on YouTube from teachers complaining about Gen Alpha. Then again I’m not sure how much of it is millennial feminist teachers breaking down because the class doesn’t want to learn about pronouns or how they live on stolen land.
Those teachers never tell you the race of the kids they’re teaching. If they’re complaining about behavior, they’re teaching nigs and spics at the ghetto school. And yes, the political aspect plays a part. My daughter has had some issues with her English teachers, despite being a really good student, because they keep picking straight-up bizarre things to read.
When my mother in law brings up grandkids I politely remind her we cannot afford children right now. A real piece of shit has kids they cannot afford to support and cannot give a good childhood. I've tried to explain this and she has said those are stupid reasons and me and my wife just need to work harder. Of course the good common sense of her parents generation just flys over her head. God I hate these fucking people.
Boomers: Never want to spend any time with their children or help them in anyway asking when they'll be grandparents, but will gladly help anyone else.
I would've disowned them if this was me. Don't be surprised when they die and they leave a portion of their will/estate to these random people she's delusional about being the "grandparent" of.
There is a film from 1968 called "Wild in the streets" that shows a dystopia where the Boomers "Then still young drugged addled pieces of shit" guided by a deranged young drug addict rock star seize power and destroy the country. Putting everyone over 35 into detainment camps and basically partying non stop high off their asses tearing apart everything their parents built while brutalizing everyone older than them. Basically if the hippies had a cultural revolution here in the U.S thank god the dumb fucks were too lazy and high to organize like the Chinese youth right? Too busy humping each other and retard dancing to Jefferson Airplane.
In a way it was prophetic. Except they didn't seize power when they were young. No, it came in the 1990s when middle aged self righteousness set in and the drugs went from acid and LSD to Rogaine and Lisinopril. They still destroyed everything their parents built but in the name of "progress" and they brutalized everyone older AND younger then them and yeah they still went on partying while shaming you for having a good time.
Zoomers don't know what it was like, and in many ways that's worse. They lack the positive vision of a single parent coming back from work on Friday night, takeout pizza and a rented PS1 game from BlockBuster, and you're stoked because it's summer and you have all weekend to beat it. If Millennials are lazy and entitled, zoomies feel 'entitled to laziness' - they don't see anything worth working towards, so why do you expect them to care or work hard? The most common aspirational career is some nebulous "content creator" which just means getting paid millions for posting dumb shit online, which they already do recreationally.
I currently have a young Gen Z intern. This is someone who was born in like 2005 or some shit. Now, I did an internship way back in the yesteryears of 2011. This doesn't feel all that long ago or anything but yeah, definitely getting older.
Anyhow, I hear about what he's done to be competitive in terms of getting into university and looking for a job. He took the SAT like 4 times, had a boatload of community college courses, did every single extracurricular he could reasonably support that was related to technology. This was before he even got to university and I asked him if he was trying to get into Harvard. He told me no, that just to get into UT Austin (flagship of the UT system sure) you had to do all of this or you just don't go to that university. Slowly but surely, all of the UT schools have been squeezed like that due to the priority of international students, and rapid increase of population that makes the previously nice state programs much more competitive as well. Kid's family is of modest middle class means, heritage white American from Texas and not a transplant or second gen immigrant.
Now he tells me that you can't just sign up for a major either. Computer Science (my own major forever ago) and several others are strictly competitive majors and you have requirements to get in. This was not a thing when I was going, I literally just filled out a form in the registrar and walked out. I also went to a public state school. On top of that the coursework is strict in that you have to take a lot of sequenced classes now and "wandering" is severely punished. After some amount of diminishing returns taking more credits than the 120 necessary for an undergrad they just start charging you more for each one.
He did all of this knowing that entry level jobs are hyper competitive, especially in tech sector and OPT visas get more entry level jobs than citizens. He knows how fucked prices are for everything. I told him shit like my old car was a $7000 Mazda that was decent enough and I drove that for 10 years and that I bought a house the decade prior for $180k in this area. He is flabbergasted and can't even believe it.
Point being, these kids are acutely aware of how hard they are being squeezed by the system in 2026. They will direct their resentment and action somewhere as the Boomers fade out.
