DDoS attacks

[Nekoi.Inukuma.00]

Well Gelbooru ditched CF too. If I remember correctly.

Also if in the case of Piracy sites then those too are in deep trouble because of Payment Processors and Koreans.

If so, by choice. Gelbooru is also not the Kiwi Farms. Solutions that work for not-Kiwi Farms do not work for Kiwi Farms.

If I remember the posts on their Twitter, they quit before being fired... and still got constructively terminated, leading to downtime... Allegedly, based dubious & spurious censorship requests on foreign government entities.

Sure, it was different, they were given multiple warnings and the CEO didn't publish a defamatory spergpost about Gelbooru. Gelbooru doesn't have the same threat profile either, there isn't an autist cabal of anti-loli puritans firing full-internet LOIC-style strikes at their servers.

It seems to me the only way this changes is if Cloudflare is convinced to let Kiwifarms do business with them again. And that would take someone who can make the case that we're not in the same world we were in during 2022. Because clearly the freedom of speech thing isn't doing it.

As the Gelbooru example above shows, I don't think getting back on Cloudflare would even help at this point. It would only be a matter of time before they decided to start doing the bidding of a government minder. If anything, Cloudflare needs to die... as in fail, go bankrupt, and go away. If everyone had to deal with this shit, then something will be done. Looking back at the "Summer of Lulz" LULZSec didn't get busted for hacking a few websites and dropping a few others... they got nailed because they pissed off people powerful enough to revoke their shit-posting privilege.

This argument doesn't work anymore. Reddit has entire snark subs now where they phonebook post the information of anyone remotely connected to h3h3 for example because he's not a pro palestine nutjob. Twitter posts the same daily. We see twitch users read off entire addresses of people. MikefromPA has read off Destiny's address over and over.

Twitter, facebook, reddit etc all lead to people getting constant harrasment. And they're all much bigger than kiwifarms by multiple orders of magnitude.

And all those site have size, clout, and whole departments of "trust and safety" glowies to ensure they will never face any immediate consequences.

Unironically as cringe as it may be.... The path forward is political spergery and trying to make a concerted effort to brush shoulders and network with those who have connections. I'd say it's a long shot and retarded but in the past decade I've seen some crossovers and shit I never though imaginable.

I'm a crank, IRL. I've already fired off a few letters here and there about the difficulties of doing business the forum has had and encouraged others to do the same, without explicitly namedropping the forum.

Spoiler: off-topic, but I lol'ed

Holy fucking shit. I’m using the dark web. I am making my first post on the dark web. Well you can refer to me as hacker from now on. I’ve never. Ever. Used tor. I’ve barely used VPN if you wanna know the truth bout it.

I lol'ed. I remember chatting with some French anarchists on Freenet with the assistance of Babelfish for translation help back probably 20+ years ago at this point.

Fuck me, I'm too old for this shit.

 

[ASeabear8952]

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I don't know what this page is called but you should consider putting the TOR link and the Telegram, twitter account here. maybe a feed for the telegram acc. specifically if thats possible. just some way to notify users whats happening instead of meeting them with an error page and zero information. particularly if this is gonna be a common occurrence in the future I think it would help quite a lot for users to have some sort of "emergency instructions" to follow.

100% agree. The "emergency instructions" should be a guide on how to use Tor and the phone apps.

 

[clickbait]

Maybe jersh should transition to become a protected class. CF would welcome Joshita with open arms.

 

[Null]

Dumb question, can you just let the attack run its course, with TOR as fallback? KF has been down for a day plenty of times, so presumably they'll get tired of lighting money on fire to temporarily inconvenience a bunch of autists who'll come right back.

Or is there collateral damage to ISPs etc that makes this untenable if done repeatedly?

so like, the site dies if we're tor-only with 40% clearnet uptime.

 

[Meat Target]

Dumb question, can you just let the attack run its course, with TOR as fallback? KF has been down for a day plenty of times, so presumably they'll get tired of lighting money on fire to temporarily inconvenience a bunch of autists who'll come right back.

Or is there collateral damage to ISPs etc that makes this untenable if done repeatedly?

it would harm the long-term QoL of the site. If it's a crapshoot as to whether Elaine and the troons paid for an attack and whether the site is up, people will eventually stop coming.

Im working on getting tor up and running but it’s being a cunt.

My only problem with using Tor personally is having to login manually and use 2FA every time. Sometimes I get multiple 2FA codes and have to guess which one it'll take.

Not something I'd leave the site over, but certainly an inconvenience.

 

[Shoresy]

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I don't know what this page is called but you should consider putting the TOR link and the Telegram, twitter account here. maybe a feed for the telegram acc. specifically if thats possible. just some way to notify users whats happening instead of meeting them with an error page and zero information. particularly if this is gonna be a common occurrence in the future I think it would help quite a lot for users to have some sort of "emergency instructions" to follow.

I just googled Kiwifarms tor link and the top result is a list of all the Clearnet URLs and the Tor URL.

 

[jetpackbluess]

And there goes clearnet again.

 

[Vesperus]

And there goes clearnet again.

Still up for me

 

[WelperHelper99]

Too all the niggers that are coming back on since clear is working, this is instance #1488 why you should have tor set up.

I was busy today (that and I keep my password on paper). Still have tor downloaded from 2023 though. Still chuggy as ever.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

Right now, we just need to talk him off the ledge.

FWIW, I completely get how Jersh feels.

I got banned from Twitter in February of 2020, and when that happened for the first time in my life I realized I could be a gainfully employed, socially reputable, law-abiding citizen and still be publicly, permanently silenced. It was the rudest of awakenings.

I had nightmares for months after. I *still* have fucking nightmares about it. Twitter and the other "Big Tech" sites were (and largely still are) testbeds for a social credit scoring system. God help us if they manage to actually implement it. That fight's nowhere near done yet - I would argue it hasn't even really begun.

If they can permanently silence people who have committed no crime, debank you, deplatform you, deny you employment, deny you housing, deny you commerce, and eventually, literally starve you, what's left?

Hopefully we can yet again find another way through or around this current predicament. But what this website is being subjected to is supreme, absolute bullshit of the highest order.

 

[Mr. Hands]

Got Tor working, clearnet just crashed on my end. I have to use clearnet on mobile because fuck Apple, but I have stable Tor access on the linux box.

 

[JohnnyG]

so like, the site dies if we're tor-only with 40% clearnet uptime.

I wasn't suggesting TOR become the main conduit, just a bridge while under attack. Does the 40% uptime mean they're expected to keep refreshing the attacks indefinitely?

it would harm the long-term QoL of the site. If it's a crapshoot as to whether Elaine and the troons paid for an attack and whether the site is up, people will eventually stop coming.

The site's been down for a day or so plenty of times (not a criticism, I know huge effort has gone into reviving it). I'm asking if such outages will be the exception because the offenders will get tired of flushing money away, or if they'll be nonstop.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

All faggots. Get tor as backup. Bookmark tor.

 

[jetpackbluess]

Still up for me

It's back and forth for me. My internet might just be retarded cause it's Canadian after all.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Know how in an RPG, the foes get tougher as the story progresses? It started with "Vordrak" and that "Autistic Legion of Doom", now it is a whole army of rather evil freaks.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

It ain't over, until it's OVER.

 

[Null]

I wasn't suggesting TOR become the main conduit, just a bridge while under attack. Does the 40% uptime mean they're expected to keep refreshing the attacks indefinitely?

like anything lower than 98% uptime is really disasterous. if the site is unreliable people will just stop using it over time. it won't grow, it will shrink. if we shrink we can't combat the problems we have. we can barely combat them with what we have.

 

[Meat Target]

I'm asking if such outages will be the exception because the offenders will get tired of flushing money away, or if they'll be nonstop.

I can't say who exactly is doing it or why at the moment, but you should never underestimate your opponent.

Then again, as @Null himself once said: "we can stay retarded longer than they can stay solvent."

Your torch lights the way, Mein Feeder.

 

[nycifer]

Ironic that anime pfp types are the ones more likely to have CP in their computers but hey, at least they dont say nigger and faggot so that makes them ok as long they keep it private or some nonsense like that.


People love to have a good villain and, as mentioned by many, our society has been raised to believe "prejudism" is the worst thing you can ever do, no exceptions, doesnt matter how the target of said prejudism is among the viles of humanity. It doesnt matter niggers have commited all that crime, what matters is that we called them niggers. It doesnt matter that faggots have demonstrated over and over they ARE coming for our children, what matters is that we called them faggots.

Its really interesting to ponder the psychological relationship that the site has with the rest of the internet, especially the mostly liberal normie masses. I was about to go on a tangent but, honestly, I doubt this thread is the one for it and I sent the core message across, everyone likes to believe themselves as the Justice League and "the others" as the Legion of doom and its very easy to project that type of relationship with us based on that, well, that and the fact that most of them havent read anything beyond porn, manga and capeshit so thats as far as their intellectual creative reach goes.

I have found that people who are extremely strong against pedophilia and say they wouldnt do such acts, tend to be the ones you least but should expect.

But yes, people whose anime tastes involve a plethora of schoolgirls and pug-eyed borderline loli characters, definitely reeks of suspicion.

KiwiFarms is a demonstration of how hypocritically righteous the outside of society really is. They dont like the farms because we harbor things they are just too scared to confront and deal with.

And when you are scared, you hate something and you hate it hard. They burrow underneath so much of their own defeatism that they convert that energy to hatred and they direct it to the farms.

 

[Messiah Mike]

I'd like to report a problem on the TOR site @Null, users who use 2fa cannot log onto the site. The redirect button just doesn't work. Is there any way to fix this or do users have to disable 2fa in order to use the onion link?