US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I can never trust Rubio on immigration. If he had his way Trump would have never become President thanks to amnesty being passed under Obama.
If he had it his way Trump would never have become president because he was trying out for the same job at the same time.
All this infighting bull shit makes us sound like a bunch of trannies on reddit having a witch hunt and trying to disavow Democrats who aren't communist enough for them. What we need is a little fucking solidarity and a united front against the real enemy.
If Trump can forgive and trust someone at this point then you should be able to as well.
 
If he had it his way Trump would never have become president because he was trying out for the same job at the same time.
All this infighting bull shit makes us sound like a bunch of trannies on reddit having a witch hunt and trying to disavow Democrats who aren't communist enough for them. What we need is a little fucking solidarity and a united front against the real enemy.
If Trump can forgive and trust someone at this point then you should be able to as well.
RFK is terrible on most issues except for heath, so Trump put him in charge of heath. Rubio has preformed very well in foreign policy and as SoS, but that doesn't mean I want him in charge of immigration. People whine about Vance but if anything he's further to the right than Trump on immigration, which isn't saying much but does have positive effects.
 
If he had it his way Trump would never have become president because he was trying out for the same job at the same time.
All this infighting bull shit makes us sound like a bunch of trannies on reddit having a witch hunt and trying to disavow Democrats who aren't communist enough for them. What we need is a little fucking solidarity and a united front against the real enemy.
If Trump can forgive and trust someone at this point then you should be able to as well.
It's also been a long 10 years since Trump's first run for office. Vance and Rubio have both said and done some shit in the past that we would find objectionable. But I am willing to be open to them having change their positions given how crazy and unhinged the world has gotten. 10 years ago, sure I can see Rubio or Vance willing to do amnesty 2.0. But after the immigration crisis reaching a peak under Biden, foreign terror groups operating in our border, the endless fraud by immigrant groups, the jeet hoard and H1B abuse, how naked the dems are about using immigrants for votes, seats, and kickbacks, geopolitical advisories taking advantage of BRC I would be shocked if they havent changed their stance over the last few years. Besides, Rubio has been with Trump 110%, doing everything he asks and hasn't tried snaking him at all from what I seen.
 
It's also been a long 10 years since Trump's first run for office. Vance and Rubio have both said and done some shit in the past that we would find objectionable. But I am willing to be open to them having change their positions given how crazy and unhinged the world has gotten. 10 years ago, sure I can see Rubio or Vance willing to do amnesty 2.0. But after the immigration crisis reaching a peak under Biden, foreign terror groups operating in our border, the endless fraud by immigrant groups, the jeet hoard and H1B abuse, how naked the dems are about using immigrants for votes, seats, and kickbacks, geopolitical advisories taking advantage of BRC I would be shocked if they havent changed their stance over the last few years. Besides, Rubio has been with Trump 110%, doing everything he asks and hasn't tried snaking him at all from what I seen.
Just like how people judge the world pre 9/11 and post 9/11, I think things should also be judged under the lense of pre covid/Biden and post covid/Biden.
Always remember we're dealing with fucking conservatives here, and the one thing that you can usually count on them to do is have an open mind and be willing to change with the times or when presented with new facts.
If winning involves importing millions of new browns as part of our "united front", what exactly are we winning here?
2015 Rubio is not 2026 Rubio. If you want to go have a republican bash fest I'm sure the communist lady boys over on reddit are still having theirs.
 
I agree that the gang of 8 stuff was atrocious.
But also remember that it never went anywhere.
Rubio in this administration has been pretty hardline against immigration and as SOS he actually does stuff about it.

it was even longer ago than that, 2013 that he did the immigration stuff. (which again, never went anywhere).
He had already moved away from it by 2016.

Lately Rubio has been revoking visa statuses and deporting people to third party countries.
Which is like the complete other end of the spectrum.

Now who knows what could happen. Would do a total 180 again if he became president?
It's possible, but seems unlikely.

If you want to be an effective GOP politician now, you HAVE to be anti immigration.
It's consistently listed as one of the biggest issues with voters (economy is almost always first but immigration is right up there).
And Rubio is an effective politician, if nothing else, so he knows that.

edit: i still think Rubios negatives are just that he's short/small and kind of has a weird lisp
it's really petty but i think that stuff matters with voters.
desantis also has this too in being short and talking like a nerd.
vance is probably the most charismatic but for him its the other end where it almost comes off as too polished.
 
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It’s rather shocking how homophobic the left can be. They are perfectly happy calling people faggots and niggers when it suits them.
No it isn't. You're still looking at these people from the perspective that they actually believe what they say. In reality, they are dysgenic freaks who believe in nothing but power and desire nothing but power. They see gays and blacks as an ally in achieving said power, and if someone from one of those groups isn't helping them in that respect, then they're nothing but a nigger faggot to them.
 
Can I get an explanation?
China has resorted to sending an ever more desperate cardre of bureaucrats to beg, threaten, and cajole Scott Bessent since Trump began fucking with China's economy last year. Many of them have been liquidated on their return to China after having failed under various pretexts like anti-party activitities or plotting to over throw the "democratically elected" chinese government. It has happened a few times, but the one that really stands out was when the head of the Chinese foreign trade burea ended up flying to America unannounced, showing up at the treasury building and screaming that he demanded to see Scott before going home in defeat. I have mentioned this on other sites I use when it has happened but no one really ever seems to care so pardon if I don't have sources at hand, but I distinctly remember Bessent mentioning that story during an inteview last autumn and how he chuckled over the fate of the chinamen.
 
Funny Valentine is objectively correct in SBR. Leftists hate him because he wanted to benefit the US at the cost of other countries which stinks of nationalism to them so they recoil at it.

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There are multiple people in the part who say that Funny Valentine is correct and that he's "walking the path of the righteous" but leftists have zero theory of mind and ignore that.
 
China has resorted to sending an ever more desperate cardre of bureaucrats to beg, threaten, and cajole Scott Bessent since Trump began fucking with China's economy last year. Many of them have been liquidated on their return to China after having failed under various pretexts like anti-party activitities or plotting to over throw the "democratically elected" chinese government. It has happened a few times, but the one that really stands out was when the head of the Chinese foreign trade burea ended up flying to America unannounced, showing up at the treasury building and screaming that he demanded to see Scott before going home in defeat. I have mentioned this on other sites I use when it has happened but no one really ever seems to care so pardon if I don't have sources at hand, but I distinctly remember Bessent mentioning that story during an inteview last autumn and how he chuckled over the fate of the chinamen.
Li Chenggang is the Vice Minister of Commerce for China. They were removed from their role at the WTO after allegations they came unannounced and demanded high-level meetings and used incendiary language, allegedly threatening that China would "unleash chaos on the global system" if the US enforced docking fees for Chinese ships. US officials described his behavior as "unhinged" and "very disrespectful".

US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent claimed Li showed up in D.C. on August 28 without a prior invitation. Chinese officials countered that the visit was pre-planned to discuss bilateral trade and communicate about Section 301 investigations regarding shipbuilding.
 
China has resorted to sending an ever more desperate cardre of bureaucrats to beg, threaten, and cajole Scott Bessent since Trump began fucking with China's economy last year. Many of them have been liquidated on their return to China after having failed under various pretexts like anti-party activitities or plotting to over throw the "democratically elected" chinese government. It has happened a few times, but the one that really stands out was when the head of the Chinese foreign trade burea ended up flying to America unannounced, showing up at the treasury building and screaming that he demanded to see Scott before going home in defeat. I have mentioned this on other sites I use when it has happened but no one really ever seems to care so pardon if I don't have sources at hand, but I distinctly remember Bessent mentioning that story during an inteview last autumn and how he chuckled over the fate of the chinamen.
LMFAO how did I not know about that. Bessent has been surprisingly based in the administration and I think he has singlehandedly made me less homophobic the way Stephen Miller has singlehandedly made me less antisemetic.
Funny Valentine is objectively correct in SBR. Leftists hate him because he wanted to benefit the US at the cost of other countries which stinks of nationalism to them so they recoil at it.

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There are multiple people in the part who say that Funny Valentine is correct and that he's "walking the path of the righteous" but leftists have zero theory of mind and ignore that.
Funny Valentine definitely was in the right to the point where he feels like more of a hero than anything. I feel like even Araki realized he made him a bit too idealistic of a character to be the villain by the end. Either way he's still my favorite Jojo character.
 
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